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| The show is about entertainment as much as it is about singing. It's a whole package - the presentation and performance of a song, not just the rendition. Whilst Virginia may possibly have had a better voice than either Julia or Russell, I think Julia and David were the most entertaining couple throughout the series. |
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| Did anyone else notice Amanda Pelman's comments throughout the series to Virginia?? I think she was jealous of any closeness between Virginia and Ian and was plain nasty at times eg. Be careful or you're going to lose your voice if you keep singing like that! I think the producers just wanted a male in the finals to get their ratings up. Virginia was doing great until about Week 9 then it was 'oh, you didn't sing enough for a semi-final' bla bla bla! I think the judges comments were influenced by the show producers. Don't get me wrong, I loved Robbo's singing and Kate was fantastic but Julia really did get through on her entertainment value as much as her singing ability. |
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| As I said in a post below : If you want to see how singing and comedy can go together look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-jdzCmX62s&feature =related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg8kT-t6_58&feature =related (A Charity Performance by the 10th Anniversary Les Mis cast. It helps if you know Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody.) |
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| Yes. You may be right. If either Virginia or Russell had been confident enough to infuse some comedy or sparkling personality into their performances they might have won. But they couldn't at the time and they didn't. Virginia only projected an engaging personality at the end, too late. Without Kate's showmanship, Russell was deadly dull - however well he sang. So, the winner won -on entertainment value. |
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| I thought that it was suppossed to be a singing show not a comedy act! The best singer went out in the last round before the final which is when Julia and David should of gone!!!!But this is so typical of these shows like DWTS as well due to the silly voting system,I was hoping in the end that Paul would of won it just to show how silly this show is. Maybe Russell should of brushed up on his comedy skills and "hammed" it up rather than concentrating on his singing. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Yeah it was easier for Julia & David. David with his Opera would be studying & playing different charaters all the time with self awareness of nearly every movement sound & vocal. & both Julia & David would have known how to get responses to a crowd. Although Russell needed help in stage presence, movement how to carry himself better. eg lift his shoulders back & carry himself things like that as they said in strictly ballroom (proud as a peac**k )(carry yourself) Kate would have to have been happy to get in the final. How could Russell learn so mutch in so little time theres no elegant trained movements, stage presence & singing in football except for a graceful above shoulder mark maybee. Kate had a lot of work there a lot more than David. I must admit I was looking for improvement in movement too from Russell but with his footy training would have been busy too .Got to consider he did very well. Both pairs did too. |
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| cathy - I think the gist of what you are saying is that it was easier for Julia and David because both of them have performing backgrounds, whereas Russell, as a footballer, without that background in performing, would have found presenting a song more difficult. I hope that's what you mean, and if so, you're probably right. Of course, the main task of the mentor is to find a way to show the celebrity in the best light. It may well have been more difficult for Russell to overcome his natural reticence, even with someone as outgoing as Kate. Julia, whilst not being too confident about her singing initially, was able to throw herself into the act because of her experience on stage. I've said on other threads that Russell and Candice possibly had the biggest hurdles to overcome as they were not so involved in the entertainment/news industry, although both of their particular sports are watched by large crowds of people. However, both Russell and Candice had better voices, or made better use of them, than Mimi McPherson, David's partner in Series Two. Even David's skill and experience as a mentor was severely tested with Mimi, although they were only eliminiated in Week 9. |
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| I didn't see alot of these shows my video rec died so I havn't seen all & a friend recorded some for me as I looked through the few I do have. going back a post or two here Thinking about the background of the two sets that reached the finals for Kate & Russel Kates background of projecting singing with Dancing Kate more of a Dance type show routines to movement less charactor of acting study than David it must have being hard for Russel with a footy background to adapt to find quality moves presence combined with singing on stage. Where you look at David & Julia, both with stage experience David with Opera had on stage to have dramatic & quailty ever changing charater roles look at me stage movement & singing would have expected to project this with julia. julias quick responding established stage presence with comedy & singing & even quick quality responses with the judges just seemed to made her so more likable to the judges & Audience so it had a need for a combination of singing, acting, comedy & many things combined. |
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| I wouldn't go as far as saying that Virginia has had full-on "classical training", but attending a performing arts high school and having an opera singer as a father would have done her a lot of favours as far as harnessing her raw talent. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| What ???? classical training??? I hadn't heard any of the contestants on the show had that level of training. When and where did Virginia have classical training in singing? |
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| I get everyones points...all fair...but I did get kinda annoyed with Julia doing all comedy in teh GF, people on here carried on for weeeeekkks about Russell only doing rock and whatever, I know you can't blame her form playing to ehr stranghts, just thought the whole point of havign the slow, fast, journey criteria was to show the full range of the final contestants...Plus im still confused as to how last weeks scores and the GF scores even work together and how much relevance they actually have...someone will correct me I'm sure...I wouldnt have said Virginia had the BEST voice..she was great don't get me wrong, but she sang completely different to Russell, he has a good range and a unique, natural voice which I think matches up to a voice that has had classical training..just my opinion. congrats J & D | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Congratulations to Julia, we all have our favourites, mine was Virginia, lets face it, they all did a fantastic job, kept us entertained and raised money for charity. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Russell should not have attempted that ballad. His voice was not suited to it. I could barely make out what he was singing, his voice was shaky and he did not seem to be enunciating properly. He is an excellent vocalist, but I think Julia won fair and square. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| It's an ENTERTAINMENT SHOW! Comedy, singing, dancing, orchestration, stage presence, choreography, improvement - all sorts of things contribute to the show and the contestants chances of winning it. Whether or not Russell was "better" at singing doesn't matter. Virginia was better at singing than either of them but that's not all there is to a performers appeal. David was brilliant at devising the performance and Julia was incredibly adaptable and confident so she could carry off whatever she and David decided to do. Her vocals kept improving and she injected a whole lot of her own personality into every performance. Last night both of them were great and I wouldn't have minded who won. But Julia was by far the most entertaining and enjoyable to watch. This was partly due to song choice, but I think Kate decided to go with "serious" and emotional as she knew she was up against Mr and Mrs Entertainment LOL Personally I still hate that swing number - although Russell did a better job of it this time - it's just not the kind of stuff an amatuer should be attempting. I actually think Kate should have revisted Ring of Fire or one of his solid up-beat performances like the Hot Chocolate number. Congrats to both teams - Kate and David did a brilliant job with their partners and Russell and Julia both did themselves proud. |
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| *****And for the record, Virginia was the best singer hands down. Had she made the final she probably would have taken it.****** Possiby so, but there's more to singing a song than just singing, it's the way it's presented. Virginia would only have won the final if she had had sufficient viewer votes, but it seems that she didn't have enough support when it counted. I hope she does continue to sing and gain a lot of enjoyment in doing so. |
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| Julia had her comedy act, Russell let his physique do the talking, and Kate was OTT a lot of the time.Hopefully next season the contestants and mentors will do whatever they need to to get votes-and MAYBE the mentors need to look at their role a little more closely and NOT try to take over during some of the performances-as some of them did. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| And for the record, Virginia was the best singer hands down. Had she made the final she probably would have taken it. ------------------------- ------------------------- --------- I agree, Azriel, she did have the best voice, just needed to tone down the antics and theatrics. I think that's what put people off. |
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| Personally the ballad thing was Russell's letdown -- his voice was too shaky and that dragged the entire performance down. I'm not discarding the possibility of nerves but if he was that good, there would be no issue with his vocals. Russell's vocal technique is more pronounced than Julia's, certainly but that doesn't make him the better singer IMO. He was too inconsistant, and for too much off the competition he coasted through on rock songs, or rock-type variations of other genres. There were only a few times where he truly sang in another genre, and that was his weakness -- not enough range in term of style -- really not much more than a one-trick pony. Julia actually tackled every single genre and she certainly wasn't GREAT at all of them, but she had a far greater consistency in her vocals throughout the course of the show, and that played out to her advantage in tonight's final. |
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| Sorry but the best singer didn't win. Robbo is by far a better singer than Julia. Don't get me wrong I love her and think she is funny. But the person who said playing to the crowd wins is right. Robbo bought me to tears with his final song, he was brave to do three slow songs, when he knew the rock songs got a better response in the past. Love you Robbo (and I am a carlton fan!!!, sorry bout last week mate!!! but we needed it!!!) |
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| plus russell sang alot on his own with out kate | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Well done Julia and David, they were neck and neck all series with Kate and Robbo, but came through on the night Congrats. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| and thats my opinion | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| mabey a bit harsh but his was the better singer out of the two of them | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| just my humble opinion.......... the best singer of the whole series won.... hands down | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Someone's bitter. Julia was not the best singer, for sure. But she sang better that Russell tonight and that's what counts. And for the record, Virginia was the best singer hands down. Had she made the final she probably would have taken it. |
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