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| Cathy dear, it is clear that none of us has the answer to your questions. We just don't know and therefore can't help you or put things right for you. The only people who might help are Jon and Ian's management team. Also your doctor might be able to prescribe something to help you to cope with your disappointment and make you feel happier with your life. Try it Cathy. I hope it helps! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Show after show will have Stevens,Stevens,Stevens he had him a year or so ago. Thats too many shows Ian used to have varied interesting supports musos that did play good music & songs that didn't take up most of the show time. & not someone thats just a uninteresting stage act. |
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| ***Maybee they took it away because Julia was going to be voted off. Anything can happen.*** ????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? ?????? |
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| Twenty five postings of roughly the same message in 3 pages. That's a trifle excessive, don't you think, Cathy? Especially as the 25th message is just as indecipherable and makes no more sense than the 1st one did. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Maybee they took it away because Julia was going to be voted off. Anything can happen. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Maybe they took away the forum because they were sick to death of someone's constant moaning/complaining? Can't think who it might have been. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I dont need to be tone deaf to hear the many faults in Jons singing. Obvious when you hear them especially that song he sings holds the sound at the end of it dosn't vary it to make it sound interesting just holds it & it goes way off at the end rather dreadful.Never said hated anyone just don't like his singing & music & Ians shows just over 40 something minutes was not long enough. Ian is the headliner so he should do a longer show he dosn't make it worth going & we waited for 2 years hoping why no Band Shows when he did Perth ,Adelaide, Queensland & others we didn't get any shows we miss the band he didn't even tell us why no band shows we still don't know why & thats no reason to take away the forum. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Cathy, Jon Stevens is a very good singer and you must be tone-deaf. Please stop expressing your opinion in such poisonous and hateful language. Most people have never heard of Ian or Jon and don't care to hear your opinion of them. I have tried to be patient with you but I am now just sick and tired of your whinging. If you don't like their concerts, don't go to them. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I did not once say I hate him probably really nice as a person Just do not understand what he does is called singing. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Cathy, Russell Crowe was born in N.Z., Nichole Kidman was born in Hawaii, Mel Gibson was born in thr U.S.A., The BGs were born in England and so it goes on, so what are you talking about? We already know your opinion of Jon Stevens so why do you need to keep telling us again and again? Do you think that we are too stupid to understand you that you feel you must keep repeating the same thing so often? I hold a different opinion but I don't expect you to have to listen to it. Please find something new to discuss. Please!!!!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Cathy, Why? Ask yourself why you have this obsession. Is it something personal, like having been ignored? Do you know the man that you hate so much? Why? The world is full of lousy musicians. I don't know if this person is lousy or not. But if he is, he is not the only one. Believe me - no one will bother even to read what you are writing if you keep this up. You are defeating your purpose, whatever that purpose might be. |
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| I gave it un harmonic vocals & off key The shows were sick of Stevens horrible music & ear blasting sounds have seen over & over again. Bring back the band shows. |
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| *****If they cant take constructive critisism they shouldn't be in the business... ***** 'Constructive criticism' means just that - criticism but with the purpose of improving or building up, not criticism just for the sake of it - repeated over and over and over ad infinitum. |
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| Expressing an opinion for a Disapointment Im sure many reviews all over the net in newspapers mags & all sorts have had both good & bad reviews of all sorts these forums too of different things people have said there will be different opinions everywhere no matter where you look If they cant take constructive critisism they shouldn't be in the business... My family is far from wealthy hard working Australians If I came from a wealthy family who could help me through school would probably be better.I do my days worth in a factory .Ian Is well past the working class its too mutch to do decent length show just fill it in with supports & no band anymore. Very disapointing. We hoped for 2 years for the band shows & Ian didn't even let us know why no more electric Band shows. We didn't know & still don't. With Jon from New Zealand your born where you are he's from New Zealand does that make him an Aus Icon. |
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| Cathy dear, I am getting very concerned about you. I am assuming that you are part of a very wealthy family who will be able to support you both emotionally and financially if you should find yourself in court being sued for slander. I'm sure you must feel well qualified to judge the credentials of entertainers and spend months criticising them constantly over and over. If you do not have the proper qualifications and are merely expressing your opinion and waging a vendetta against Jon Stevens then I do think you should stop now before you get into real trouble. I also think that your comments about Jon Stevens coming from New Zealand are very unwise. Everybody in Australia came from somewhere else within the last few generations,(except the traditional owners of this land, the Aboriginal people). The conditions and standard of living in New Zealand are exactly the same as in Australia. It is just smaller. Cathy, I really am concerned that having had your say you feel compelled to repeat it in such an hysterical manner so often. I hope that you will allow Ian to make his own decisions about his life and his career choices. If you continue with your attacks I am afraid you may find yourself in very unwelcome trouble and it could cost more than you can pay. I am just trying to be helpful, Cathy, so please don't be cross with me. Please calm down and think about something more important. Something nice. |
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| There is absolutely nothing equal In Stevens ability to sing play an instrument his song, vocal constructions are very poor nowhere near the quality to Ians.Jon couldn't even do a song on his own in the show. Dosn't matter what he does Jon does not have the Quality Ian has. Nothing in his work is equal to Ians Therefore it is not an equal billing in any way. Ian was on last too wasn't he.Its lets get together not the old works of old songs & covers album Jons being touring for ages now its not equal. yeah iv'e lived in Australia all my life just cause you get a piece of paper to work & live here in a better conditions & lifestyle & bigger population you call yourself an Australian Id bet he would always regard himself as what he is from N/Z cause thats just where he's from. I saw the previous six strings tour where Jon ruined Georgia many times painfull to listen too. He did Georgia in Melb recently the Beatles come together with Jack, Ians show was a little over 40 minutes way too short too mutch on the Bill. I won't waste my holiday money for a show a little over 40 minutes with too mutch on the bill & to hear the things I like ruined by someone who cannot sing them is not suited to singing them. Ians Shows are better Electric with Phil Dave & Kerry they did decent shows Ive heard & seen enough of Stevens shows to say Stevens is just a waste of money & time. |
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| Cathy a few points. 1. This is the Ian Moss/Jon Stevens show, equal billing. They both did an hour each when I saw them. 2. Jon has dual citizenship therefore he is an Aussie. 3.How many shows have you seen with Jon and Ian doing Georgia together? At neither of the 2 I went to. 4. I don't have all the money in the world, I use my holidays wisely and combine music I want to hear and going to new places. I like to move forward and not stay in a rut. Change is good and should be grabbed with open arms (try it, you may enjoy life a bit more). |
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| & on the John Farnham thing its well known & spoken about. so again don't accuse me cause I only gave an answer to to someone else's opinion directed at me. |
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| As I said if you dont like it don't come here. Im having my say. You don't like freedom of speech. Stop accusing me cause there are many others that have their say too your ambition is to stalk people & accuse them like me of whatever you wish. What do you know of everything ive ever posted on the net again accusing me of something you don't know. People are entitled to have their say if you ran the net no one would say anything. you have a thing against anyone who has something to say not eveyone will agree. Go somewhere else if you dont like it. |
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| Do you ever get sick of saying exactly the same thing over and over again, Cathy? You haven't said one new thing in your 836,000 posts over the last year. Why don't you get someone who speaks English to draft you a letter to Ian's management outlining your OPINIONS on the shows and then let it rest. There is a huge difference between constructive criticism and meaningless drivelling whinging. Ian has the right to put on shows in whatever formats he wishes to, just as you have the right not to go. As you'd be aware he has brought us many years of fantastic music and he can't hope to please all of the people all of the time. I wonder what kind of stuff you'd be posting up here if her dared to retire. Please stop posting the same thing again and again as others may actually wish to engage in some constructive conversation. If the forums come back; don't ruin them again. |
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| Got no where else to discuss things so may as well talk here.As I said Im having my say. When you look at some of these shows these shows that happening these days not only Ians it just seems the shows are filled in with so many supports the headliners show is so short its hardly worth going. Ive looked in to going to a few of these type shows this way & considered its not worth me making the effort to go for a disapointing half a dozen songs 40 odd minutes seems to be the latest thing thats happening. Im not interested in consumer affairs im just telling how it is & stating Disapointment as for a headliner show. I wouldn't go to a show for Celines or Anthonys music umm? Was his show 30 min supp + the 40 min given or just made 40 min I can't correct you cause not really sure for Celines show. I guess its what they used to sell more tickets by using his timed popularity on this show to pick up poor ticket sales . Don't Know about John Farnhams shows seems hes had so many comeback shows with that kind of money do you think he would really want to retire just yet??.. Don't see overseas stuff these days unless its really good cause so expensive they pack em in put up screens see on a screen or are so far away from the stage may as well be seeing a video at home may see more & closer sometimes depend where its shown too a pub type show I may go.I am here & having my say. |
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| Cathy, if you paid your money for a ticket to a show and believe that what was in the show was not what was advertised as being in the show, then you should demand your money back. If the price of your ticket is not returned to you, then go to Consumer Affairs and claim that you were defrauded by false advertising. There is no point in complaining on this Message Board. Seek proper legal redress. I wondered about the people who paid $350 (in December last year) for a ticket to hear Celine Dion recently and when they turned up for the gigs found that 40 minutes of the program were given over to Anthony Callea, whose concerts they can get tickets to for far less than that. Now they may well have enjoyed Anthony Callea's singing more than the singing of Celine Dion, but they had paid to hear Celine Dion and they got 40 minutes less of her than they had paid for. (Correct me if I am wrong and the whole concert was 40 minutes longer than originally intended.) I would think that if you paid to hear Ian Moss (only Ian Moss) and got others, then you have case for damages for false advertising. (Wasn't there recently a court case about John Farnham's concert being advertised as his last appearance, and then it wasn't?) I suggest that you stop whinging here and go and demand your rights in the proper legal quarter - Try Consumer Affairs to begin with. |
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| I stated facts about the shows the noise level facts about the dreadful songs. Why do you come here if you cannot take constructive Critisism It is a forum on singing so if you can't take it don't come here cause they talk about singing here. Ive been to enough shows heard enough of Jons awful ear blasting off key singing to say this & been to the shows to know Ians Show is way too short 10 or so songs 40 odd minutes is not long enough for his main show. Im having my say.Maybee Peppers got all the money in the world to go to these shows all round Australia not all do for a too short 40 minute show when Ian is the main show most will be going for Ians show & wouldn't know how short it is .& Jon's a Kiwi you didn't know not Australian so work on your own education Jon destroys Georgia at these shows. after hearing Ians orig recording you'd know that too.& we miss the Band shows they're way better than this. |
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| It's amazing! Two weeks later and you're still vomiting the same thing up over and over again. Can you not accept that everyone has heard "your opinion" about this and doesn't necessarily agree. Based on Peppa's open minded, educated and well written comments below, I will certainly be getting myself to the show when it hits Sydney again. I love all of these talented Australian artists playing some great venues. |
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| Ians show alone was about a short 40ish minutes wasn't it. His show (should be the longest & main show).Hardly warms up then its finished. For an Accoustic show was the ear blowing volume of Jon turn it up to the(top end) Stevens previous shows for an Accoustic or reduced to not blow your hearing (for Accoustic) Still like to know why Ian wont bring Phil, Dave & Kerry do some band shows anymore. So mean we don't even know why Hes making the songs just covers with other people. & what was wrong with the shows they were doing. |
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