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| Musicman was refferring to Russell not singing as much as what Paul did because according to him that makes Paul a much better singer. Go figure. I can see the point if the celeb. hardly sang anything at all but Russell, Virginia and Julia have consistantly sang a huge proportion of their songs every week and sang them well. Paul on the other hand has struggled with Jade dominating their performances, he has improved immensely in the last two weeks and regardless of whether or not he sang more of the song this week than Russell, the quality of his singing is still nowhere near the quality of the other three remaining contestants. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| musicman has a point. When Jade and Paul sang, Jade sang every second line. Possibly if Paul had had to sing longer sections he would have wandered off pitch. By Jade "interrupting" he could be kept in line. Julia, in singing The Rose "went it alone" and that was significant. I am sure that the judges take this into account - not because of the word count - but because of how much "shepherding" the celebrity needs. |
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| coledamien-I was having a dig at musicman. you must be a psychologist or something to know that. I have a child with a disabillity whos IQ is not a great deal higher than that. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| It is impossible to score in the low 20's on a IQ test - even if you cannot attend to the test you score much higher tha that. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| musicman-what do you regard as a high IQ. Yours seems to be somewhere in the low twenties. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Well, I sure hope that all three couples have tallied up the words of each song that they will sing next week, and divided them up equally - otherwise we may well have this boring topic being rehashed even beyond the final. Give it a rest, musicman. If the competition was about how many words the celebrity sings on their own, why bother having the mentor sing at all? For that matter, why bother having a Show in the first place? |
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| wow musicman, you really do have a problem. Learn how to write English....I can sing all of twinkle twinkle without any help from a mentor, maybe I should go on the show ....I'd win going on your standards!!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| If Russell was tumbling or having seizures on European he would cut off automatic. I wish he goes because his making feel very nervous when I see him sing. What counts how many lines he can sing without Kate help. Thatâs what counts is how well you sing the song and if you sing in confident and you mean it, then you get high points. Virgina and Julia didnât need help from Ian or David which is important and show how well they can sing a sing. Knowing a song inside back front what counts is getting up and singing that song without been nervous on stage that what counts. Amanda shouldnât be a judge on the show. Bring Jimmy Barnes does a great judge âThe Knowâ on Max Foxtel. His spot on and is very honest and a least he gives you encouraging not discourage you. Amanda needs to learn manners. Give encouraging that pays off. I rest my case here |
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| musicman - your IQ has nothing to do with it - it's your spelling, syntax, etc. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Because I have high IQ thats why you can't understand me. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Emcc Let me explain this way and maybe you might understand were I am coming from Let say you were on It Takes 2 and you perform ROSE perfect and you confident and you sang 6 lines from lyrics without singing off key. Russell only sang 2 lines in lyrics and got higher point then you. How would you feel from inside, knowing you sang more the Russell. Amanda would say negative feedback to you. You would feet hurt, upset, lose self confident and effect your emotion a lot. I watch the European version and thatâs not how they do. They have professionally singers as judges not A&R from record companies. Least they rotated the judges on show so it doesnât get boring. Also the contest do have right to speak and explain to the judges how mush hard they but in learning the song. If the judge those upset a contested on the show, the audiences can boot the judge off the show. Paul and Jada were on European show, they have a right to complain and fine Russell getting low points. Fair is fair. If you sang 6 lines in lyrics and Russell only sang 2 lines in lyrics he should get high points. I donât look if Russell tumbles on stage what counts how many lines he can sing without Kate help. If Russell was tumbling or having seizures it would cut off automatic in European. I donât want to see a guy shaking on stage like Russell. I wish he goes because his making feel very nervous when I see him person. When you pay to see someone perform you donât to concert to get nervous you go to concert to feel relax. what counts how many lines he can sing without Kate help. What counts is how well you sing the song and if you sing in confident and you mean it, then you get high points. Virgina and Julia didnât need help from Ian or David which is important and show how well they can sing a sing. Knowing a song inside back front what counts is getting up and singing that song without been nervous on stage that what counts. Amanda shou ... |
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| do you think your perfect judystorer. Is a bit lame to call people you haven't met stupid, unless you have wings and a halo. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| You are very well mannered, judystorer. ************* Not!!! |
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| We are stupid because our opinion differs from yours? You are very well mannered, judystorer. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| you are amazingly stupid, Paul should have gone weeks ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I agree that Amanda has a "bee in her bonnet" about Paul. If she had given constructive "advice" from the beginning rather than b-h'y comments he may not have been 3 weeks behind. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Paul was 3 weeks behind the others. Amanda Pelman was justified in her comments. I don't always agree with her, she's very hard, but in this case, yes. It seemed to me that Paul left the best till last. Almost kind of lazy attitude. I could be wrong, I always had the feeling he just didn't want to be there from day one. Having said that, I really enjoyed his performance of Mack the Knife. Wished he'd pulled his socks up earlier. Who knows what he may have been capable of. |
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| guise - life is full of "maybes" and I was responding to a "maybe" posted by someone earlier in this thread. But nothing is certain, in life, or about Amanda's reasons for disrespecting Paul. That WAS my point so I'm glad you understood it. As for all that "agreeing" you reckon I did. Well no I didn't actually state agreement with any of those things. I have my own thoughts about what score Paul deserved and where he fits in the general scheme of quality of contestants and they don't necessarily match the judges. I don't have a problem with their scoring but that doesn't mean I wholeheartedly agree they were justified in their exact scores or random comments about "3 weeks" they made. I have my opinions, you have yours (whatever they are). We don't HAVE to agree. |
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| Coachjacki Your post is full of "maybe"s. You agree that the scores given to Paul were justified. You agree that he was three weeks behind the others. End of story. |
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| Coachjacki, you're absolutely right. I don't really have a problem with the scores she (or any of the other judges)gives either. I think Amanda's major problem is that she knows who she likes and dislikes - and unfortunately, so do the rest of us. She's entitled to have her favourites (as we all do), but making it painfully obvious when she's supposed to be a figure of impartiality is what's making her come across as unprofessional. And I'm not just talking about her attitude towards Paul either - it's something I've noticed since the first series. :) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Very good point ,coachjacki, I've never really liked her as a judge that much at all and I totally disagreed with both her and James Valentine 2 weeks ago when they totally tore Paul up. I didnt think that he deserved it but it has seemed to work. I disagree that Russell is only in the top 3 because of Amanda there are 3 other judges who score him equally high( 2 of them are men whom I presume arent gay!lol). Russell, Julia and Virginia have all been in a class of their own since day 1 and Paul has not improved anywhere near enough to have challenged that! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Amanda is in a position of relative power over Paul so whatever went on backstage should not be played out when she is supposed to be judging him. Maybe Paul challenged her behaviour off-stage and Amanda didn't cope with the affront to HER ego. Maybe they had a fight early in the series and just don't get along. Maybe both of them have strong egos and they're clashing backstage. Who knows what it is - but just because Amanda is a "judge" on a tv celebrity music show doesn't mean that Paul must have been the "bad" one. But what it does mean is that she should "check her own ego at the door" and be aware of the abuse of power she displays when she behaves in such a manner toward someone on the show. That said, there was NOTHING wrong with the scores she gave Paul, only with her attitude toward someone in a more vulnerable position than she is. |
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| The only reason Russell has been in the top 3 since the show begun, in one word "AMANDA", she has the hots for him. Amanda needs to give more encouragement instead of the acidic barbs she loves using. |
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| musicman.....if your so sought after for your advice,why cant you even write your posts in correct english???? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Mate - it's not a matter of "beating someone" in their argument or trying to "win" the discussion. The others have made some valid points and you have too...:) Now I haven't seen the show yet (but it's been taped, so I will) - therefore I can't really comment on individual performances. But I don't think it's really a matter of how many lyrics someone sang or didn't sing...at the end of the day it's quality over quantity, really. I'm a singing teacher as well, and I agree that Paul improved drastically during his time on the show. He was constantly working hard to improve his voice and it showed - as a result I started to enjoy his performances more and more, particularly the later ones. But the others (and Amanda too, to be perfectly honest) are right as well in saying that he WAS behind everyone else in both vocal and performance quality. I also agree that Amanda could have toned down her attitude a bit - I've always thought that it's not WHAT you say, but HOW you say it...the point she was trying to get across to Paul may have been valid, but the way in which she delivered it (something else I need to watch, but judging by her behaviour in past shows) wouldn't have helped his confidence one bit, which may have also held him back. But as I said before, he did extremely well and should be pleased with his efforts...he definitely has a new fan in me! :) |
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