By: a57512119 11/11/2009 4:54 am Yahoo! Profile: a57512119 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Yea I forgot that. He did leave Jack there. Seems the writer forgot that two. The more i think about this character and his storyline the more unbelieveable it seems. The writers and producers have no idea about realism |
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By: cjexpress10 10/11/2009 8:10 pm Yahoo! Profile: cjexpress10 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Angelo is a sleazy, self serving prat. Accidents are manslaughter - fact. There was no other shot. He left Jack there and carried on to the community like nothing happened. His behaviour over Belle also shows his incredible lack of any decency at all. |
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By: a57512119 9/11/2009 11:57 pm Yahoo! Profile: a57512119 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| The fact that Angelo did not set out to kill, dosent make him any less guilty of doing just that. and was confirmed that it was his gun that fired tthe fatal bullet. He would have at least been charged with manslaughter and definately suspended from the force. He may not serve a substantial amount of time but he would do some, he was corrupt and I know that Jack was also and if the situation was reverse and Jack had shot Angelo in the same way he would be guilty of manslaughter.An accident is when two people are playing with guns and the gun goes off. It is not an accident when you fire a gun discriminately or purposefuly at another, it can only be for self preservation leading to manslaughter or the worse case murder. |
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By: yellowhazzze 9/11/2009 11:02 pm Yahoo! Profile: yellowhazzze Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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If I remember correctly Jack attempted to tell Charlie what he suspected about Angelo but when he went to he saw them going for it.
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wat do u mean he saw them "going for it" yellowhazzze?
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Getting frisky lol. He went to Leah's and Angelo had Charlie pinned up against a wall kissing her. Hardly the time to discuss with his superior she was making out with someone he was suspicious of. |
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By: laurenkelly1991 9/11/2009 11:00 pm Yahoo! Profile: laurenkelly1991 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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The factor of the matter is, is that the producers are trying to make Angelo the new Jack and it doesn't work.
Jack was selfless, whenever he did something against the law book, he did it to help out those he cared about and he only ever did it if he believed that someone was dangerous or shady.
Angelo on the other hand is spineless and reckless. He's not in the Bay to solve the case because he genuinely cares about it, he's out to solve it because he doesn't want to go to jail!!
Whether or not Angelo ment to shoot Jack is irrelevent, the fact is he started his own personal investigation without the proper help or authority of his other police officers, he endangered the lives of helpless people and in turn cause the death of Jack, by accident or not.
Even when Jack pursued someone without conducting a proper investigation eventually he did involve the police.
It also doesn't help Angelo that he is impatient, has a poor manner of conducting interviews with the Bay residents, has a bad temper and he didn't even have the courage to fess up to killing Jack. The man has no conscience. He simply does whatever without taking other peoles feelings into account.
He's arrogant and brash and these are really not good personality traits to have for a character if you're trying to make people like them.
I'm sorry but Angelo needs to go. One cop is all they need and they have that with Charlie. |
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By: sweetbabyangelo 9/11/2009 9:40 pm Yahoo! Profile: sweetbabyangelo Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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If I remember correctly Jack attempted to tell Charlie what he suspected about Angelo but when he went to he saw them going for it.
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wat do u mean he saw them "going for it" yellowhazzze? |
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By: yellowhazzze 9/11/2009 8:58 pm Yahoo! Profile: yellowhazzze Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Jack did most of it for his own personal gain, he wanted Martha, he went and planted drugs on Cam so Martha would leave Cam and no doubt go running back to Jack.
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How about the fact that he was protecting her from a no good p**ck that was using her. View that how you will, I don't see that as self gain. |
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By: sue_fleur 9/11/2009 8:25 pm Yahoo! Profile: sue_fleur Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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jtierney62 read what you want into it, and into your own words. neither of them should be there in the first place. Someone was shooting at Angelo and he shot back, did you forget that bit too.
jack was no saint, and he died because of it. He was out for his own, and shouldof had back up. Angelo did not go and shoot in cold blood it was an accident, in which he freaked out and ran away.
Now he has to live with it for the rest of his life. It is not like he went up and just shot him for no good reason.
He did a deal to get where it is, but after walking through there was a third person there as well, forget that part. There wasn't the evidence to charge him. He took back his statement after the walk through. |
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By: sue_fleur 9/11/2009 8:22 pm Yahoo! Profile: sue_fleur Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Corrupt implies that he was doing things for his own personal gain, he wasn�t and he never did. It was always about protecting other people.
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Jack did most of it for his own personal gain, he wanted Martha, he went and planted drugs on Cam so Martha would leave Cam and no doubt go running back to Jack. he stole evidence also. It was all trying to get into Martha's good books, or protecting himself from what he did. He nearly got caught but could never prove what he did when the evidence went missing. Jack was still as corrupt as they come and yes for his own personal gain too not just to protect someone else. There was the corrupt Cop Jack's partner, who blackmailed Jack all because he knew of how close Jack had come to being corrupt and evidence going missing but never being able to prove it, Jack was way in over his head there.
Jack went to tell Charlie something once and saw the 2 of them together.
Jack did save Belle and Aneglo's life, that one time when BElle froze and Angelo risked his own life to protect Belle there also, as BElle freked out.
Angelo got in way over his head and saw no way out. He got in way too deep, and tampered with soil samples. I don't think he knew that people were dying until later on. He was wrongly accused of assault and yes he did it for personal gain but in the end he wanted to end it and his life was at risk. |
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By: yellowhazzze 9/11/2009 8:07 pm Yahoo! Profile: yellowhazzze Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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If I remember correctly Jack attempted to tell Charlie what he suspected about Angelo but when he went to he saw them going for it. Neither Jack nor Angelo should have been at the development site, but the difference being Jack wasn't reckless enough to shoot his gun.
I also remember Jack tampering with evidence but it all stemmed from one incident in which he was trying to pin a drug dealer. He went about it the wrong way and it all spiraled out of control. And whenever Jack did something wrong it resulted from trying to protect people he cared about. His instincts have always been spot on with Corey and George and Angelo etc. He just didn't go about it the right way a lot of the time. Corrupt implies that he was doing things for his own personal gain, he wasn’t and he never did. It was always about protecting other people.
Angelo is a different story. He tampered with the soil samples to get himself off a wrong assault charge. Soil samples that could have been used to get people who were DYING as a result of the development site justice. Then there was getting Nobby killed because of his own personal “unofficial” investigation in which he risked someone else’s life and he attempted to do the same thing with Gibsy. And then there is the whole thing with the gunman and Belle and which Jack SAVED his life. The most disgusting part was that even after he murdered Jack he went to that funeral and wore that uniform and recited a speech about honour and duty in front of his poor family. The man has no shame. At all. |
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By: jtierney62 9/11/2009 8:00 pm Yahoo! Profile: jtierney62 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Interesting analysis. Does that stand for all people who are murdered? It is their own fault for being somewhere they shouldn't have been. That is a totally deplorable statement. Angelo shouldn't have been there either, let alone taking random pot shots in the dark! He admits to doing it andf we know he did a deal to get where he is. What an admirable justice system we have!! |
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By: sue_fleur 9/11/2009 7:35 pm Yahoo! Profile: sue_fleur Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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He was corrupt and Jack and Nobby are dead because of it.
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Jack is dead because jack had to go on his own without back up and was not there on official business. Jack should not of been there in the first place. jack was as corrupt as they come to suit his own personal needs. I do not feel sorry for jack being killed at all. He should not of been there in the first place and didn't even tell anyone where he was going. |
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By: sue_fleur 9/11/2009 7:34 pm Yahoo! Profile: sue_fleur Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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But he is and we have been told we will find out WHY on air this year
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Id like to find out why and more, we know bits and pieces |
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By: sue_fleur 9/11/2009 7:33 pm Yahoo! Profile: sue_fleur Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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As to Charlie changing character, becoming a weaker character that happened before Grant came to town
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I don't believe Charlie ahs become a weaker character, she has mellowed, but she came to town on a mission to break up her father and Morag she didn't like the fact that her father had found someone knew. she was also out to prove herself that she was a cop and higher up onher own merits not her fathers merit. She has not come to like the town she lies in, accepted Morag and her father, and the town has accepted her. She no longer has a chip on her shoulder which shows in her life.
I don't think her character is weak, she lost control with Grant and over Ruby but that is to be expected coming face to face with the man that raped her all those years ago.
She is now more acceptin or who she is, and who she is with. Everyone knows Ruby is her daughter and they all know she is dating Angelo who the town used to not like. I disagree with that point. She is still a strong person, but no longer feels she has to prove herself and does not seem to care as much what the town things of her, to me that makes her a better person than what she was.
She now has her maternal side coming out also, towards Rubys omething she has had to hide for 16 years, but can now actually be a mother and not watch someone else raise Ruby. |
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By: a57512119 9/11/2009 7:20 pm Yahoo! Profile: a57512119 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| I can't agree that the comparison of the Perth is on a par with the inccident with Jack and Angelo. Neither that the fact that Jack also was not a perfect officer, both characters should not be in a police force. Angelo did kill Jack unlawfully, to what degree the charge would be is variable, other than a plea of self defence a sentence of some description is the right thing and of course no longer a police officer. I dont agree that this scenario would indeed happen in real life. As to Charlie changing character, becoming a weaker character that happened before Grant came to town |
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By: wendy.lowther 9/11/2009 5:55 pm Yahoo! Profile: wendy.lowther Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| But he is and we have been told we will find out WHY on air this year. |
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By: marsuep 9/11/2009 5:52 pm Yahoo! Profile: marsuep Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| It may have been an accident but Angelo was not on oficial police buisness when it happend. He was corrupt and Jack and Nobby are dead because of it. He has absolutly no right to be working in the police force again, full stop. |
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By: sue_fleur 9/11/2009 5:37 pm Yahoo! Profile: sue_fleur Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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That reminds me of something i heard on the radio, after the soilers have been killed either here or away, this guy all I nkow he was I think a muslim leader, and he sent the parents, usually the day of the funeral a letter, telling them how glad hw was that the son had died, all because he was a soilder doing his job.
I think they all received it on the day of the funeral too. Pretty sick, at least they found out who sent them |
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By: wendy.lowther 9/11/2009 5:34 pm Yahoo! Profile: wendy.lowther Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Recently there were the parents of a soldier who had accidently shot his mate on TV. He couldn't cope with it and killed himself. Hope noone writes their usual comments on that story - remember they are real people not people in a soapy. |
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By: sue_fleur 9/11/2009 5:18 pm Yahoo! Profile: sue_fleur Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I agree J.pies it does happen to police officer. Angelo did not shoot him in cold blood but by accident. He did not go up to Jack and just shoot him. What was jack doing there. Jack was as corrupt as a cop even more. Planting evidence, stealing evidence to get Martha off, but people still liked Jack. jac was the one who was there without backup and shouldn't of been there anyway. NO doubt because jack isn't have a relationship with Charlie and taken someones place.
it was an accident pure and simple. Angelo has to live with it for the rest of his life and was suffering alot about it when he first came back. He is now getting on with his job, and it is putting pressure on him. |
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By: j.pies12 9/11/2009 1:29 pm Yahoo! Profile: j.pies12 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| happens all the time that police kill people by accident....dont know why ur so surprised...looked at what happened in S.A the other week during that training exercise....would you say that the soldier who accidently shot one of his mates should be put in jail when it was clearly an accidnet!! |
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By: j.pies12 9/11/2009 1:27 pm Yahoo! Profile: j.pies12 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| i cant fully remember the story but a young person about 15yrs old had a knife and was running towards police (he was quite a way away) and the police decided not to taser him but to shoot him with their guns and the boy died. It was in the media and all over the tv about how the cop who shot him should pay. But because of the situation (and this happened in daylight, not at night where you cant see whos shooting who) the cop was let off. |
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By: j.pies12 9/11/2009 1:25 pm Yahoo! Profile: j.pies12 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| it happened in perth not long ago |
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By: kelsi_u 9/11/2009 1:22 pm Yahoo! Profile: kelsi_u Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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this thing happens all the time in real life!
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The hell it does!
In real life Angelo would be up on manslaughter charges, or at the very least, wrongful death!
He wouldn't be in the job either, that is real life, the show may be a work of fiction but it's stretched the bounderies beyond belief! |
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By: j.pies12 9/11/2009 1:19 pm Yahoo! Profile: j.pies12 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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The reason I don't like Angelo is because the producers want us as viewers to ignore what was shown in the past, insulting ones intelligence, in regards to Angelos integerity. He is corrupt police officer guility of manslaughter if not murder, and yet he is given the opportunity to return as a police officer to solve a mystery, reality I think not. As for him hooking up with Charlie well just another piece of bad writing and destruction of a character.She has gone from someone so strong to a whimpering needy person, and needy of who, the worse character on Home and Away, Angelo
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this thing happens all the time in real life! |
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