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| great with the media the wins wont come please keep him . he only makes us sick | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ha ha Mark!!! Im sick of him on behalf of the Aussies:) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| BINGO! Great provencial record coaching 10+ All Blacks with the greatest team on paper in the tournament, granted! |
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| Is Dingo really such a good coach! With the Crusaders he had McCaw and Carter and couldnt loose but so does Henry and he hardly looses (this year McCaw and Carter were injured so 09 was an exception)!!! I dont think Dingo is that great he is riding on his success with the Crusaders! Im not saying he is rubbish, all im saying is that he isnt as great as everyone makes him out to be! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Thats a good point Froggy... but that means you'll never be sick of him as when would Australian rugby ever be odds-on, unbackable favourites? Maybe he's safe in the Job. Good on ya Robbie, & One Million Dollars a year to boot for the unsackable job. Sweet. |
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| I know, what about losing in the semi's of the WC when you are an odds-on, unbackable favourite? Maybe that'll do it! Froggy |
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| ok I'm trying my best now to keep this thread going... Will you take a Japan loss? How about 1 loss in Europe... ? or 2? You guys do know its a kiwi leading you down this path right? You do know its a kiwi giving you your worst professional record? |
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| Even if the other team turns up, the WALs have the potential to beat the BOKs or ABs on any given day. However, they do not seem to be able to put two together. Deans also needs to learn to play his players to their strengths and to use the bench. I cannot understand why you would put Smith at no 8. Especially when playing against McCaw. Blessings mel |
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| Hey Mel. My Question would be if the other team also turns up will Robbie have a plan b to counter the other teasms play or will he be able to make the right changes on the field to expose the opposition??? He has not shown this yet. |
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| When the WAL's get it right they beat the best - WAL vs BOKs. However, they are terribly inconsistent. The ABs just could not keep the ball in hand and made too many basic errors. The WALs seem to lack a game plan. Their substitution was appalling in yesterdays game. Taking Smith off did not make sense at all. Should have brought on a no 8 and put him at no 7. Deans is a very good coach but I have never been able to understand his substitution plan. I think he will be a good coach at this level - but the players have to show up for him. As I said, when they do show up they can beat anyone. Blessings Mel |
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| i have to agree with your point 2 Mark...Deans seems pretty poor when it comes to substitution management and also selection wise this year made few weird decisions to drop players who did nothing wrong and were clearly infront of the ones that kept keeping their spot. sick of him....i dunno...not at the moment if you ask me...but few fantastic rugby weeks are coming...5 back to back saturdays for the Bledisloe 4 game and the Grand Slam tour...if the Wallabies put few more performances like last night or Perth few weeks ago in that tour...i am pretty sure a lot of people in Australia will start to question how good of a coach at this level Robbie Deans can be at the moment. |
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| Ok The Deans wrap, here it is. 1. 2003 The All Blacks lacked a plan B under Mitch and Deans, this seems to be the case with the Wallabies right now. The All Blacks have adapted there game in a number of games they have been behind, more often then not they have adapted and come back to win. So point 1. Robbie has no Back up plan. 2.I noticed very early on in the Robbie era that his substitutions are typically pointless or poorly made. Against the ABs early on he hardly made a sub, then he made quite radical changes, then last night with the last and only posibility the Wallabies had of coming back he takes off his captain and leaves his struggling midfield and outside backs to battle it out??? So point 2. He has no game plan in terms of a 22, not 15 and again is struggling to adapt with the on field play 3. Robbie is no doubt a good coach, however is the step up to internationals exposing him. He coached a provencial team to a suberb record, no doubt. However, this team included the 2 best players in the world along with 8+ other All Blacks. So point 3. Its one thing coaching the best team on paper by a long shot incl. 10+ All Blacks in a provencial comp, its another coaching 13 or so Aussies and a few kiwis (hehe) at international level. So are you sick of him yet?. My feeling would be if that was the ABs last night I'd be getting very close to breaking. Bish |
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| Deans looks like a sad man. The basic problem is that there is no chemistry between him and his players. He is struggling to impose his authority on the Wallabies, because Australians are inherently arrogant and feel themselves superior to any Kiwi. Deans has gone so far as to fire every senior Wannaby player (George Smith next) in an effort to impose his beliefs on younger players. But 3N rugby matches are won by men, not boys. Thus the result has been humiliating losses by the Wobblies - a string of record losses to AB's and SB's. The 'we are almost there' mantra is getting a bit stale now. Good advice to Deans is to jump ship - the alternative is to leave later with reputation in shreds and a knife in the back. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Geraint, grab hold of any hope you can there Pal. Mr Ackford is dreaming, and taking the best two players out of any team would leave them struggling a little. Facts are: The Big 3 downunder are the top 3 sides in the world. The last time the ABs played up North you guys couldn't even score a try. (ENG, SCOT, WAL, IRE incl...) A France or England may "upset" one of the big 3 however when it comes down to it you will struggle to get past all three in a knock out tournament. Bish |
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| Geraint, Never believe what you read in the paper, lol. Mr Paul Ackford is entitled to his opinion but is making a big mistake if he thinks we have no depth here in the S/hemisphere and can only bring to the RWC those players we are fielding now. Has the ages of the current players been taken into consideration in his reckoning. If he is insinuating that we (Boks)have peaked early then what about the Wallabies and AB's? Wallabies are on track imo. AB's are building at the mo. That all said, please do us the favour of putting the word of Mr Ackford out there as the gospel. His statement that Wales 'even' have a chance 2 win is broad, so does England , France, USA, Samoa, Fiji, Japan, the Puma's. Heck thr AB's, The Wallabies, the Boks etc etc. Maybe I should apply for a position at the UK daily mail, LOL as with that type of writing I canot lose my job. Bok |
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| You just hold that thought Geraint. We are down on our teams because we hold such high standards for them. The players and the coaching staff feel the same, that's why we are always aiming for greater excellence. Bring on the next RWC! Froggy PS I'm an Aussie, Geraint, but never write off an AB side. I don't remember Paul Ackford having a whole lot of victories against them |
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| I guess you will Gerry. For the moment though, we'll be focusing on this Saturday. |
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| Paul Ackford writing in the UK Daily Telegraph reckons there is no way a Southern Hemisphere team will win the next RWC. He reckons without Dan Carter and Ritchie McCaw the All Blacks are basically an ordinary team. He even went as far to suggest that 'even' Wales have a chance to win. With the way you are talking your team down on these boards, maybe you have already resigned yourself to defeat. Can't wait for the autumn series, I guess we'll know where we stand at that point. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| It amazes me how the ABs won the tri nations last year and their forwards were great and this year they have not put one good game together. I can't believe the amount of basic ball handling errors they are making. I have never seen an AB team make so many basic mistakes on things that should be second nature. I hope they have this bad year so the next two can be superlative. Blessings mel |
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| I'm entirely with you, Bish. At Test level head coaches are not supposed to be teaching the lads how to bring a ball into a tackle or to take a high kick, nor how to throw the bal into a line out. These are basic skills that are the responsibility of the players themselves to execute. They have been doing these things since they were children. Focus. None of which will save the coaches if poor results continue to accumulate,of course. MarkL. |
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| I hope so Gale. I just want the ABs to get it right once in this tri nations. Their error count when it comes to the basics has been some of the worst I've seen. Henry and Co cant help played losing the ball in all the time. Its fustrating, and I found uneasy every time we ran it up as I was just waiting for someone to drop the ball. In saying that, man they were close. DCs kick was 5m too long otherwise they would have gone in. Boks deserved it. Im not sick of Henry though, Robbie would dream to have a record like his. This is the first time he has lost the tri nations. He's a great coach and will adapt and come back stronger. Go the All Blacks |
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| Next week's game is massive for both teams:- AB risk ending their season with two losses in a row - on home soil! They have some great players but have struggled with combinations and blending the new with the old. On top of this, the enormous weight of public expectation will add to the pressure. Wallabies have an opportunity to step up a notch and finish a watershed season on a high. But the pressure is on them to prove they are worthy of praise and public support by beating te All Blacks in NZ with their backs up against the wall. This could be the mist brutal encounter in world rugby this year. |
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| There is a thread on the NZ board that came up immediatly after the loss that was calling for Henrys head. Under. Henry has the worst job in the world. He is hassled more than the NZ PM |
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| Not recently, Zedds. Just want to know if things changed lately..... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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