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By: rugby445
16/11/2009
3:21 am

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Sivivatu the wife basher!!!Byron Kelleher bashes a pedestrian in france? What were you saying about culture Grist??Shall i go on with examples about your nations?? Joke!!!

By: rugby445
15/11/2009
12:26 am

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Sorry Girst I just got to say you come of as a bitter fool… First you argued Melbourne shouldn’t get the team cause they haven’t treated SANZAR with respect, Australia betrayed New Zealand with the world Cup fiasco yada yada yada, whinge whinge whinge.. Then the argument shifted to the fact they wont be able to sign anyone, that there not financially stable… Well that’s already been proved wrong if you knew anything about the people behind the bid or the money…Know your just being petty trying to pay our Gregan and Mortlock and undermine the whole thing and Melbourne..

Im afraid your dislike and bitterness towards Australia says a lot more about you and reflects badly.. You say you’re interested in a good rugby debate but it doesn’t appear that way..

By: ado_tornado
14/11/2009
10:54 pm

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Well well well, look who crawled out from under a rock to continue his tirade of D grade abuse delivered with E grade english.

Here's the thing Grist. There is a legitimate response to every thing you have ever said on this forum. But I can't be f'd responding anymore for one simple reason.

I was right. You were wrong. Melbourne now has the new S15 side. And from the bottom of my heart I just want to you know that you can go f/k yourself.

By: tsprouster
14/11/2009
5:34 pm

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Hey Grist.Did u see the mighty World Chumps just lost their 2nd game on tour.
That's 2 outta 2 bro.
Come on mate your team is letting down the SH.
What's going on there mate ?

By: bundy_is_back
14/11/2009
4:26 pm

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What a moron you are.

By: grist4mill
14/11/2009
4:06 pm

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The Tiger-Masters circus shows that for the Melbourne simpletons you only need to serve up a one man show. The Rebels only need to sign one star (maybe grandpa Mortlock or bring back has beens like Gregan). The rest of the players can be no-bodies on booze, drugs and sex. There is enough rejects in this mould from other sport codes. An Aboriginal development team will make the Rebel bikie managers look like saints (it is all about the image in Melbourne anyway). Not much you can do about the atrocious weather Melbourne has - any outdoor sport team's worst nightmare. But then again you can always add more booze, drugs and sex to pretend it is a livable place.

By: ado_tornado
14/11/2009
2:46 pm

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They will be Panther. ONiel has made it crystal clear that there won't be any wholesale pilfering of players like there was when the Force bought up big.

By: panther1095
14/11/2009
6:12 am

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It would be nice to see if melbourne was restricted to a few marquee players. I don't like the fact that they will be robbing Qld of their players. It just sucks...man!!

By: thegongsurfshop
13/11/2009
10:44 pm

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substance free lol no substance like melbourne

By: tsprouster
13/11/2009
8:53 pm

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Your name should read thebongshop !!
lol

By: thegongsurfshop
13/11/2009
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straight away wanting up to ten overseas players
axe the super fourteen aust the only ones that desperately need it SA NZ lets get in our own canoes and sink the ship dont look back lol

By: grist4mill
13/11/2009
6:49 pm

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Big big mistake by the Nz arbitrators to award the next Super team to Melbourne. Kiwis do not learn - they vote for Australia but Australia vote against them. The Super team in Melbourne will be a disaster, which is why the ARU do not want to touch it (financially) with a barge pole. Where will the players come from? Can I suggest that Melbourne establish a development team from Aboriginal players. Something like the Melbourne version of the Jamaican bobsleigh team. You can even make a movie (comedy from it. Throw in the Rebel bikie gang as managers and you have all ingredient needed. All show and no substance. Like the Melbourne Masters golf tournament. Tiger plays with no real competitors (except the few local golfers who walk with him). All show and no dough, but Melbourne cannot stop congratulating themselves on this fabulous contest! Same goes for the Rebels, who will follow the Australian Rugby Championship to the grave. Australians turned their back on rugby union and rather support League and AFL. The reason is that Rugby Union is not the ordinary man's game in Australia. It reeks from the exclusive (private school) image of men in jackets with leather elbows. The ARU can do no better than infusing Rugby Union in Australia with drugs and alcohol and sex scandals. The ordinary Australian indentify with this culture, which is why the NRL and AFL is so popular, but not ARU or soccer or cricket. My advice is for the Rebels to be a Aboriginal team, with the bikies as managers and following the NRL/AFL culture of booze, sex and drugs.

By: edtakker
13/11/2009
3:39 pm

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Boys boys boys. Concentrate. Wallabies v Ireland this weekend. And if you haven't, check these lads out: www.chasingtheglory.com Great stuff.

By: rugby445
13/11/2009
1:31 pm

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A large proportion of the Queensland backline's there to poach surprisingly. Genia, Hynes, Ioane, Quade Cooper, mayby Horwill... Its amazing they have have they guys and just lost Berrick but just can't match up in the super 14

By: froggy55@y7mail.com
12/11/2009
9:47 pm

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Well, it really was the only outcome. Common sense all round.

Yes, I guess there will be issues around player depth, the secret is not to just throw around a big chequebook for proven players, but to recruit smart. A couple of stars, a couple of old heads to lend some experience, there's always the odd talent stuck behind a wallaby in another franchise that needs a fresh start, and then look for youngsters with potential.

Good luck to Ado's Tornados!! Pity to lose a good Tahs supporter though.

Dingo, who's left at the Reds for them to poach?

Froggy

By: galeforceperth
12/11/2009
8:46 pm

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This is great news all round. Fantastic.

Hopefully ARU will now adopt the majority of Crawford's recommendations to overhaul the Union and we will see a big groundswell emerge over next 10 years. This should result in an intermediate comp to plug the yawning gap between club & S15.

By: nyeninch
12/11/2009
5:29 pm

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Karmichael Hunt has signed a 3 year deal with the AFL - Melbourne would have to wait a while if they want him.

By: ado_tornado
12/11/2009
4:36 pm

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Elsom, Iaone, Barnes, Chapman, Toomua, Leiliafano, Carmichael Hunt, Gaz, Gower, McMenniman, Vickerman, Hewitt, Rodzilla and Gerard just for starters will all be on the radar I reckon. Add a few imports and a few league recruits and were off and running.

By: bundy_is_back
12/11/2009
3:53 pm

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Add SBW into that as well.

By: rugby445
12/11/2009
2:45 pm

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Luan Melbourne takes their sport seriously, and they have some pretty rich backers. I think we will see some massive signings going on next season as they need to make there mark quick with the melbourne public... Barnes only signed a deal till end of 2010 with the watatahs, and im pretty sure this team is aloud to sign more players from around the region... Anyone think they might GO for Gasnier with it being a world cup year?

By: luan.cronje
12/11/2009
1:48 pm

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Would it be far fetched to request a team for South Australia:) I think the ARU has to cancel all contracts come 2011. Please keep an open mind... I say this because then all players can be drafted off to the 5 teams so that there is an even spread of good players across the board for two years just so that the clubs could all compete im worried the rebels dont win anything! I know this would never happen but its just a thought!!! The Force would have sucked if they didnt get some good signings

By: dingo_pete
12/11/2009
11:39 am

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Ado,

Yes congrats to Melbourne for getting the thumbs up for 2011 super 15, at the end of the day it was the right choice money wise and for OZ rugby to grow.

I just hope my beloved QLD Reds don't suffer more player poaching because look what happen when the western force came onto the scene.

Just had a look at the NZ super 14 teams named and they have right balance throughout their squads not like OZ teams were 2 teams the warratahs and brumbies have stacked their teams with Wallaby players.

By: ado_tornado
12/11/2009
10:32 am

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Woo Hoo! A victory for sanity. And me. As of 2011 I will have a stadium to go to on Friday night to watch rugby instead of a pub.

Zedds I think we can safely run a reverse tipping comp for 2011 - Loser wins in which case I already have half a hand on the Cup.

At the moment the proposed name is the Melbourne Rebels - Which was the same name of the Melbourne side the participated in the ill fated national comp a few years back.

The name comes from the Eureka Stockade in 1854 in Ballarat Victoria, which was a 'rebelllion' by the miners against the government, police and military. I wont go into the details but it was a pivotal event in Australian history and led to the galvanization of the masses against an oppressive government. The oath pretty much sums it up. "We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other and fight to defend our rights and liberties."

So it has relevance and reason for Victorians. That said, we still dont know exactly who the ARU will hand the franchise to. The VRU Rebels merged with Mark Ella's VicSuper15 bid midway through the process and look most likely to get the gig.

The ARU also appointed an independent banker to develop the optimum ownership model. The recommendation of this guy might influence who gets the franchise.

So there are still a few things to iron out, but at least Melbourne has the gig.

And like Luan said it will be great for Oz rugby - particularly if the ARU can use this start building a stronger domestic competition to grow the overall strength of Oz rugby.

So there it is. 12 more months of Tahs then they can go take a running jump. Go Rebels!

By: luan.cronje
12/11/2009
7:45 am

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Its best choice for World Rugby and Australian Rugby!!! Now the Ausies have a real opportunity to get their domestic league going as well!!!

By: tsprouster
12/11/2009
6:56 am

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Fantastic news for Oz rugby !
Sanity prevails.
Can't wait !!
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