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By: dirtydsnz
21/06/2009
12:59 am

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The Boks looked way too strong kip. They fell off in the last 20 mins due to not having played for so long, and made a few changes which lost them a lot of cohesion, but really looked a much better side.

I will say this, the beast was continually driving in on the angle in the scrums and it wasn't picked up by the ref, which really cost the Lions early on.

It is all uphill for the Lions from here......literally!!! :-)

By: kip_johnson26
21/06/2009
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Springboks 26 Lions 21

Lions three tries Boks two

You know - I think we'll win it next week.

Nevertheless - well done the Boks

kip

PS what the heck was the penalty count against the Lions. Ref's interpretation?????

By: markbishop51
19/06/2009
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Not bad team there Kippy.

Should finish within 30 points even lol

Bish

By: kip_johnson26
18/06/2009
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British and Irish Lions team to play South Africa in the first Test in Durban on Saturday:

L Byrne (Wales and Ospreys); T Bowe (Ireland and Ospreys), B O'Driscoll (Ireland and Leinster), J Roberts (Wales and Cardiff Blues), U Monye (England and Harlequins); S Jones (Wales and Scarlets), M Phillips (Wales and Ospreys); G Jenkins (Wales and Cardiff Blues), L Mears (England and Bath), P Vickery (England and Wasps), Alun-Wyn Jones (Wales and Ospreys), P O'Connell (Ireland and Munster, capt), T Croft (England and Leicester), D Wallace (Ireland and Munster), J Heaslip (Ireland and Leinster).


Replacements: M Rees (Wales and Scarlets), A Jones (Wales and Ospreys), D O'Callaghan (Ireland and Munster), M Williams (Wales and Cardiff Blues), H Ellis(England and Leicester), R O'Gara (Ireland and Munster), R Kearney (Ireland and Leinster).

By: kip_johnson26
18/06/2009
10:29 pm

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Dear Geraint

Why not use your brain before writing rubbish

The drop goal is fine and the ones you mentioned are fine.

My point is that if the drop goal becomes a dominant part of tactics and game plan used throughout the 80 minutes then it is a sad development

eg 3 drop goals from say 8 attempts

kip

By: geraintj3
18/06/2009
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It's laughable to hear Kip bemoan drop goals. Your precious Wilkinson won the world cup thanks to a drop goal, a match you never deserved to win. And you came second in the last six nations thanks to a drop goal by Ronan O'Gara against Wales in the dying seconds, and having been handsomely beaten by both Ireland and Wales you never deserved second place. If I were you i'd keep my mouth shut.

By: panther1095
18/06/2009
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drop goals are part of the rule...

Andre the bear kicked his way through the 91 WC?
Larkhams DG against SA in WC to get them through
Wilkinsons DG throughout the 2003 WC tournament

The reason the value of the try went from 4 to 5 points is to gve you reason to score tries but that the SA and the UK play. Far as i'm concerned it's part of the rules do whatever you can to win a game.

By: kip_johnson26
18/06/2009
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Well yes there were many late tackles and dodgy tactics by the SA side - however - we expect to be softened up before the tests. They were pumped up. The ref needs to protect sides else we return to the bad old days.

There is a history here after all.

I still think that the Boks will be defeated on saturday

kip

By: bokruggafan
17/06/2009
11:29 pm

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Did not get to watch 6th game. Saw news feed and seems to have been a hard???? (dirty game from SA side)?? Any comments? Who watched?

Bok

By: kip_johnson26
17/06/2009
8:51 pm

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Except for one thing ......

Scrummaging

I know Aussies find this concept difficult

LOL


kip

By: ado_tornado
17/06/2009
4:59 pm

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Hope there's not too many from last nights game Kip. It was woeful. And the Southern Kings reminded me of playing sub district footy many years ago. All the enthusiasm in the world but sadly lacking in skill or ideas.

By: kip_johnson26
17/06/2009
4:21 pm

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OK Boks

Another win!!!

Be interesting to see the Lions test team

kip

By: bokruggafan
14/06/2009
9:07 pm

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Heita Kip and all and all,

I did not make the rules and those that did, must have had a reason for doing it. The rule exists, as do the ELV's. The team that does not use these to their advantage should have their head read.

The Bulls used both boot and ELV's brillianly to set up their S14 win. The rules have changed many times and will probably do so again. What is stopping the opposing team from hoofing a few over? Pride? Lack of ability? They do not agree with the rule?

The British and Irish Lions have had it easy so far. I am not happy with the SA showing til now and have been impressed with the Lions talent and skill, but the cracks are showing.

Underestimate the Bokke by all means.

Win or lose, by try or boot, yours will be up against the best of ours. Good luck!!

Amabokke Bokke Bokke!!!

Bok

By: ado_tornado
14/06/2009
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Gets back to the old argument of dropping the value of the drop goal back to one point.

Lions aren't setting the world on fire, but they are working their way into the tour and they are winning. Cant do too much more than that.

By: kip_johnson26
14/06/2009
3:58 am

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Western Province 23 British & Irish Lions 26

It'll do - hardly the test side!

3 tries to 1

I think If the Bok mentality is drop goals as part of the game plan - or the game plan - the Lions will win the series.

Also a sad mentality for rugby

GO LIONS

kip

By: bokruggafan
12/06/2009
2:04 am

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The Boks will not lose.
They have de villageidiot as a mascot!!

Bok

By: brooce.mcavaney
11/06/2009
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I think the boks will lose.

By: zedds99
11/06/2009
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The only problem the Boks have is there coach and as he is not playing they should go alright. But then again everybody said they would win the Trinations last year and look at what happened.

The first match will be close, the Boks have not had much in the way of prep and some of the players haven't had a decent game since the end of S14 round robin. This will work against them initialy unless they get away on a flyer.

I still think the Boks will win.

By: ado_tornado
11/06/2009
5:17 pm

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You right about the match ups. Mouthwatering. I must say last nights effort has softened my view that the first test would be a jarpie whitewash. Not so sure on your front row call Gale. I reckon that's exactly where the Lion will have the upperhand. Smith isn't a specialist prop and up against top line front rowers I reckon he might come undone. I also think the Lions will target JP at the back and pepper there back three with high balls.

Other than that, I dont see too many weaknesses in this SA outfit. And now the Lions are coming into form, we actually might be in for a good contest.

By: galeforceperth
11/06/2009
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I worry when w're in agreement Kip (no offence intended), but I think most on these boards are severely underestimating Lions squad and overestimating Boks.

I think it will be much closer than expected. Looking toward to following match ups:

Backrows. We all know how good Boks 3 are, but Lions loosies are right up there and full of mongrel. Should be epic at the breakdown.

Matfield/Botha v O'Connell/Jones. More epic stuff

Du Preez v Phillips. Both run like flankers, are solid defenders and good passers

OGara v Steyn/Pienaar. Everyone seems to be underrating ROG. He's a class fly.

Centres. Should be awesome contest. OD & Roberts impressive.

Fullback. Byrne v whoever. He is top shelf

Habana v Williams. Mouthwatering.

Only area I'm concerned Lions are potentially at risk is front 3. Smit, du Plessis and Beast are no 1 combo

By: gusbasch
11/06/2009
8:32 am

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Heita Kip,

Well done to your boys. Good, hard game. Do not believe full Sharks team would have stood up to that onslaught.

Any team can be beat. Lions come uppence in the first test f'sure.

Bok

By: kip_johnson26
11/06/2009
8:06 am

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Hi Bish

I know what you are saying but the Boks are beatable.

Match their physicality - up the pace - bingo !!!!

kip

By: markbishoparchitecture
11/06/2009
7:07 am

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Only have one comment Kip

Sharks missing 9 springboks. 9!! so they had 6 starters on the field.

Sounds like the Lions are on the improve mind you.

I wish you luck
The Boks are in a golden period at the moment.

Bish

By: kip_johnson26
11/06/2009
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Hey BOKS

Sharks 3 Lions 39

I guess the main thing is that we are gathering momentum. I know both teams had players out.

Still a good win for us

kip

By: kip_johnson26
11/06/2009
1:02 am

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Sharks 21 Lions 43

kip
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