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By: ado_tornado
12/05/2008
9:06 pm

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I agree Jimmy, still you got to play the hand you're dealt- Rain, Hail or tropical storm. More interesting to read about Gasnier making the switch. Word is he is mightily pissed about non payment of $$$$.

I think a year in France before joining the Wallas could be a nice introduction to the game.

By: hifromhim
12/05/2008
5:15 pm

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I disagree Mel. The Chiefs win over the Crusaders came as no surprise. Yes, I know the TAB were paying over $3.00 on the Chiefs to win that match (in which I had a small flutter)but if you'd seen them take the Brumbes apart in Canberra a couple of weeks earlier you wouldn't have them placed as underdogs. Actually, they stil underperformed in both their victories against the Brumbies and Crusaders - should've beaten them by more. Yes, of course anything can still happen. The Australian cricket team got beaten by Bangladesh in a one dayer a couple of years back, the Kiwis beat the Kangaroos 24 - nil in 2005. No one's infallible. But given the Cantabs have secured a home semi, I'm prepared to say it's done and dusted for another season. Since they started their winning streak way back when, you can almost count on one hand the number of times the Crusaders have been beaten on their home ground. The Blues, the Canes and the Chiefs are the only teams that have achieved this. Had the Chiefs not beaten them in the last round in 2007, the Cantabs would've gone on to take the title again that year.

By: kiwimexican
12/05/2008
1:02 pm

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Hifromhim,

It is not a matter of specifics. It is just the nature of the game. You can be the best and loose a game and be out of the contest. The Cantabs were meant to win against the chiefs but did not. They were probably the better team on paper but in the paper they were the loosers. Ask the ABs about being the favourites but not making the finish line. I bet there are about 30 of them who tell it aint over until the fat lady sings..... soooo don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Blessings

mel

By: jimmy_howes
12/05/2008
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Just watched the replay of Tahs/Stomers, and I thought NSW played really well and probably should have won. They were definitely more exciting to watch, particularly in attack, and in my opinion were the better side. I'll take a draw though...

Bring on QLD!!!!!!

By: hifromhim
12/05/2008
9:22 am

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Correction to the last post, I mean Mark not Mike.

By: hifromhim
12/05/2008
9:21 am

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Come on Mike and Mel, be a little more specific. Bearing in mind that the Cantabs have secured a home semi at Jade stadium, Who from the current top seven teams do you think can knock them off?

By: kiwimexican
11/05/2008
11:45 pm

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Hey hifromhim,

A little premature congratulating the crusaders... They can be beat - just as the chiefs.

Blessings

Mel

By: mark.gibbson
11/05/2008
6:21 pm

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hifromhim,

We haven't won anything yet. Take each week as it comes, thats the way to go.

By: panther1095
11/05/2008
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Pat Lam or Wayne Pivac...they understand the poly's

By: hifromhim
11/05/2008
10:35 am

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KOB, I was always confident of the Canes reaching the semis, even when they dropped a few of their home matches. They have a good record in South Africa and they didn't disappoint this year either. I was also tipping the Blues to qualify for a semis berth. NZ has four great teams and anyone of those teams have the POTENTIAL to go all the way. Problem is the Chiefs don't tour overseas well, the Blues simply haven't lived up to their potential under Nucifora (Why oh why was he selected in the first place)and the Hurricanes have a ceiling over their head in the form of the Crusaders. This would be Coopers 4th or 5th season in charge of the Canes and under his tenure they haven't beaten the Crusaders once. As I said on here a couple of months back. If they can't beat the Saders at the caketin in Wellington, forget it!! As for the Stormers chances, if they cannot secure a home semi berth they're stuffed. Just as the Crusaders and Blues were last year, although I remember that scorching break that Toeava made...Put Pat Lam at the Helm. He will bring the best out of those polynesian players and then we'll the Blues at the top of the table. That's where they should be now.

By: kiwis_own_bledisloe
11/05/2008
9:25 am

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I think the Canes are up to it. If the Chiefs played like how they have half the season they would have been beaten anyway. Very dissapointed, Stormers are up to it.

KOB

By: hifromhim
11/05/2008
9:21 am

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Another super title coming for the Crusaders.

The only team (the Chiefs) that could've beaten them don't look likely of making it. The Warratahs, Blues and Hurricanes aren't up to it.

Congratulations Crusaders!!

By: kiwis_own_bledisloe
11/05/2008
9:18 am

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The only thing im going to be saying 'what if' about is was Mays boot intentional, or does it not matter as Aussie Stu says, it was the outcome that mattered, didnt seem to have any effect on the match anyway.

KOB

By: mark.logsdon@sbcglobal.net
11/05/2008
4:54 am

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zedds: >Chiefs Choke enough said.<

Alas, they did indeed. Another appalling defensive performance, and Ben May will be twiddling his thumbs and working on the exercise bike for a good long while.

In the States, we call this "a few bricks shy of a load". Where to start rebuilding?

Mark L

By: zedds99
11/05/2008
2:48 am

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Chiefs Choke enough said.

By: zedds99
11/05/2008
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Sharks take the five pointer in the last minute. Puts them right back into contention. Next week is going to have some extroardinary games.

By: hifromhim
11/05/2008
12:27 am

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about a couple of months back I criticised the coaches of the Hurricanes, the Chiefs and the Blues. But the Chiefs really turned my expectations upside down when they beat the Brumbies in Canberra. I know the Brumbies aren't the side they used to be, but what the Chiefs achieved was no small feat considering that historically they're an awful team on foreign shores. Their victory over the Crusaders was no fluke and neither can it be attributed to the Cantabs having an off day. The Mooloo boys beat the Saders down in Jade last year as well and I think Deans and co would have had extra incentive to avenge that loss. I know it sounds picky to criticise a team that beat the Crusaders, (afterall it doesn't happen that often) but really the Chiefs should've been able to secure the bonus point as well. That match is indicative of where the Chiefs are at now. Since Canberra they've lifted their game considerably, but they're still not nailing the opposition as well as they could. If the Chiefs could make a few more tweaks to their game, and barring a turnaround from the Blues and Canes, there's no reason that they could not go all the way. They're the only team capable of stopping the Crusaders, and what a fantastic final that would be!! Hate to say it, but I have this nagging feeling that those one or two extra tweaks the Chiefs need will see them missing out on the semis once again. The next couple of weeks in South Africa will be very tough for them. Not only do they have to contend with history,but they are now fighting for a spot when every team is determined to end the season with a fighting flourish. They've already proven me wrong. I hope they can do it again. Go the Chiefs!!

By: zedds99
10/05/2008
10:37 pm

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I did the same last week Muzz with the Brumbies, did not pay off at all.
Good luck.

By: zedds99
10/05/2008
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Sure, you book the hotel. LOL. Bring KOB and a Ref to bash.
I'll bring Dorkinson.

By: muzz808
10/05/2008
10:34 pm

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I picked the Waratahs purely to screw Kip in Oztips...

Your logic seems more considered (LOL)

(PS how come Yahoo allows 'screw' but not '8rumbies'?

By: galeforceperth
10/05/2008
10:32 pm

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Zedds, we're in violent agreement! Does that mean we're best buddies now?
LOL

By: zedds99
10/05/2008
10:31 pm

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I picked the Stormers for the following reasons.

They are on a winning streak
They are at home
The Tahs don't travel well
They have lost Skalk but that didn't make any differance last week so I went with them.

But this is Rugby and the Tahs have been playing well. This is the game of the round for me, this will have a huge impact on the final four.

By: muzz808
10/05/2008
10:23 pm

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Zedds...
Did you pick the Waratahs or Stormers?

By: kwhauwhau
10/05/2008
10:22 pm

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Don't do that Gale, the Tahs are still to play, who knows. I think everyone is giving the Blues much more credit than the Canes. The Blues have been horrendous this year

By: zedds99
10/05/2008
10:22 pm

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Like I said earlier, the Canes have already exceeded expectations so any more wins from here on in is a bonus. The Blues could win and still lose if they allow the Canes a bonus point.
The Canes have certainly played better than the Blues this year overall which will make for a cracking game next week.
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