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| [Yes, they invented it, but it meant nothing to the television audience.] It may have meant nothing to you. But please don't speak on behalf of everybody, because I know it was the biggest and best fireworks display in history, up to now that is. |
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| Hi Brettnshirley, it was directed at the overall nature of the closing ceremony, especially the overuse of fireworks. Yes, they invented it, but it meant nothing to the television audience. Couple that with the poor audio quality (it was out-of-sync and was quite shallow sounding). I never meant soulless on the part of the person. |
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| Sorry sledge, me too... There was a lot of soul on the faces of all the performers and the volunteers (even if some may have been soldiers). As a former soldier myself, does that make ME souless? By the way, have you actually been to China or are you speaking from a uninformed position? I still stand by my point made earlier, the fireworks (gunpowder) were used as one of the 4 great inventions so why not let them flaunt it? |
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| [Still soulless, though.] Totally disagree. |
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| Again, what does being an inventor of something have a bearing on the end quality? The points I was making was the prevalent use of digital fakery instead of the real thing, and the over-use of fireworks "just because they're made there" doesn't make it any more exciting or dramatic for the television audience. As for manufacture of fireworks, sorry to burst your bubble, but not all fireworks are made in China. Sure, they invented it, but there are pyrotechnics manufacturers around the world. The issue is not whether it was better or not, they wanted to show off they could spend a couple hundred million bucks on pyrotechnics, good for them. If you're going to show fireworks, don't pull the wool over the viewer's eyes and fake it. Making excuses about helicopter fireworks and security is just that, an excuse. For such an event, if it's not worth doing, why do it and have to make excuses afterwards? I give them credit for organization and execution, and of course "volunteers" from some military base will do a damn good job with the coordinated human formations and what not. Still soulless, though. |
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| d_concierge - "Can anyone confirm that there are actual crowds in the stance? You can generate crowds using CGI as well. perhaps it was done in an empty stadium." LMAO. We might as well need to have everything confirmed as real, from the athletes to performers to cheerleaders that were walking around down there. |
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| Hi Sledge, It's nice that you get to see such nice fireworks over the Harbour every year. If the Harbour can have such nice fireworks, I am sure the inventor, designer and producer of these fireworks can have the same or better. Hasn't it occurred to you that almost every country purchase their fireworks from China? |
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| Just ask a real live person that was at the Olympic ceremonies and they will tell you the fireworks are REAL. Quit the speculation about the CGI, tv overlay and tech blah blah - although that stuff is done, it was not done for the Olympics to create something that never existed. (The camera crew on helicoptors were not allowed to film some firework for safety precaution because there was so much fireworks and they were so grand.) Although I enjoyed the fireworks, I must say those were not my most memorable moments - I enjoyed the choreography performances much more. |
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| Sledge: I never said anything nor do I disagree that being there is a different experience than watching tv. Just like a basketball game or concert, the real thing is always better to me! |
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| the olympic rings were so well co ordinated. must take a lot of planning for the rings to intersect at the same time. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| [As for the numeric countdown and Olympic rings, again, they might as well have just did a CGI overlay and the TV audience wouldn't have noticed.] Wrong. Because here, we have highly intelligent and intellectual people - such as myself - understanding the technical challenges involved with creating numbers, letters, or even olympic rings in the sky using fireworks. And because most of us have never seen that kind of thing before, it makes it worth seeing. |
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| Can anyone confirm that there are actual crowds in the stance? You can generate crowds using CGI as well. perhaps it was done in an empty stadium. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| In reply to bebeting, how often do we see fireworks going off in sequence? It's been done before, nothing new, see it every year off the Harbour bridge. Really, it's pathetic if you think you can replace the experience of being there when fireworks are going off instead of seeing some pretty flashes on the screen. As for the numeric countdown and Olympic rings, again, they might as well have just did a CGI overlay and the TV audience wouldn't have noticed. Problem is, the CG work was very obvious, and hence my reasoning of its relevance. |
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| Would Bob Costa's opinion be neutral enough? Watch his ending commentary. In short he basically said this was his best Olympics so far. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Replying to Sledge's comment about "watching fireworks on tv is boring and there's so many iterations of the same "bang" "pop" and crackle". How often do you see fireworks that shoots off into air creating an image or number? I think the following fireworks were memorable: fireworks that blasted 5 circles showing the Olympic logo (opening ceremony), fireworks that shot off like gun fire one after another circling the Bird's Nest, fireworks that created images of numbers for the countdown. Did you forget there were hundreds of thousands of people watching the fireworks live, in person, not on tv? I don't know what makes you think you are the only or priority viewer. I don't know why people keep saying the fireworks were fake as if no fireworks existed live. If you YouTube the Beijing ceremony rehearsals you will see bystander's personal videos of the fireworks and they are just as great during the rehearsal. |
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| In reply to sledge. For me the most memorable, and I won't forget you can count on it, is the human flowers at the end. Just brilliant! Never seen anything like it, and I think never will again. Oh yea, 7s commentary saying Jackie Chan was a volunteer...lmao |
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| From someone who has close family ties with China, I loved and could relate to a lot of what happened in the ceremonies. Personally I think they were the best thus far but it is only an opinion (everyone can have theirs). As for the fireworks? Yes they were great and guess what, the Chinise invented them so its more than ok they 'over use' them a tad, it is one of the 4 great inventions that they were trying to represent. 7s commentary didn't help though (personal gripe). |
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| Bias towards Sydney aside, they were memorable in their own right because it was "our" games. However, the topic here is the closing ceremony. Yes, there were hundreds of thousands of fireworks set off, but to what benefit of the TV viewing audience? Watching fireworks on TV is boring, there's only so many iterations of the same "bang", "pop" and "crackle" that can be shown. Sydney already showed that a combination of recognisable landmarks combined with a kick-*rse picturesque harbour, and REAL fireworks (not CGI add-ons) makes for some soul in an opening and closing ceremony. I still challenge people to name one memorable moment of the closing ceremony of B2008. |
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| lighting of the torch in barcelona = best ever simple and unique | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| everyone has different opinions abeit biased ones. aussies for sure will say Sydney is the best ever .chinese/asians will hail beijing. etc it takes a neutral to judge i guess |
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| I agree with Darrocck2000. You have to remember that fireworks went off in the beginning, middle and end of the closing ceremony. If you look through some pictures posted online, you can see the flame still lit while the fireworks were going off. But you don't know when that picture was taken during the ceremony or what part of the closing ceremony those fireworks were from. Regardless, those fireworks came about during the Olympics. |
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| The closing ceremony is quite boring I couldn't stay up finish watching it. Partly due to the camera angle CH7 is taking - it's pretty bad. I had viewed the US version of the opening ceremony and you are suppose to see many actions from high above, not close up or some what leveled like CH7 has presented. That's why we didn't get the full picture of what's happening... Just another example of CH7's great coverage! |
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| I am sure everyone have their own distinct memorable Olympic moments, and mine and billions more will always be Beijing. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| If you watched towards the end there was a long concert that followed, including an opera song that probably hit billions soul and be memorable to billions for years to come. I saw mostly human effort, and art than technology...Besides the lights - what technology did you see that I missed? |
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