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| Nye - The Titans have hardly embraced GC17 - CEO Searle has been downright scathing in his criticism whereas he should be seeing it a a good thing for a growing community. The fact that he allegedly is leading the discussions on the New NRL independent commission is a cause for concern. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Yeah, the AFL dropped the ball a bit with the Gold Coast. If they had struck while the iron was hot in the first 5 years of this decade (and not tried to relocate a side from Victoria), then they may have made life difficult for the Titans - especially if the side had early success. Looking at the drafts from around 04 and the picks the AFL are giving the Gold Coast next season, they almost surely would be a force in the comp. Anywho, I've always maintained that it shouldn't be an us v them battle, the AFL and NRL can coexist without any problems in places like the GC, Bris and even Perth. The Titans have taken that approach and have embraced the arrival of the AFL - smart move! |
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| Media and public wanted the NRL team on the GC , and pushed very strongly for that. The reaction to the AFL team has been tepid. The AFL tried to push the Kangaroos into SEQ, and when that plan went amiss, the general reaction on the GC to the AFL was "**** off, because we will follow the Titans instead" The big advantage the GC 17 will have is that it is purely a Qld/GC venture, and will not be tainted by baggage from Victoria The Bears mark II, but done properly this time. |
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| The AFL would be stupid to pay more than they have to! I don't know the ins and outs of why governments spend so much on one venue and nothing on another, but any sporting body will only fork out the dollars required. The AFL isn't exactly foreign to the Gold Coast, it has always been strong down there. But the AFL's push for second sides in SE QLD and Sydney is nothing more than a media driven one - they want even more $$$ from the next TV deal, possibly up to a billion. If the AFL was putting teams where the people want them Tassie would be getting the next side, not GWS. |
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| $10 million of a $126 million project (8 percent - woopdidoo), that's right, never denied it Nye. As I said though, how much is actually from the AFL coffers and how much from private investment? However, the investment of the NRL and its clubs in both Carrara in particular and the Gold Coast community as a whole, over the last 20 years makes the AFL's $10 million (apparently) look like a fly fly's piss in the ocean. Whatever the source though, it is another $10 million the AFL will have wasted in their bid to try and win the hearts and minds of NRL faithful. |
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| Yes, it's the isotonic drink you consume to help recover from a viscious self love session - you must've missed that discussion. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| I'm still waiting for a detailing of NRL (or soccer on ARU) contributions to ground infrastructure... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Nice little rant there TCTM, pointless, but nice. Here's the breakdown: --- THE FEDERAL Government will contribute $36 million to redevelop Gold Coast Stadium, securing the Gold Coast as the AFL’s 17th club. Gold Coast was granted a provisional AFL licence, conditional on funding being finalised and the Queensland State Government and Gold Coast City Council reaching agreement on the terms by which stadium land was transferred. A total of $126 million has been committed towards the stadium’s redevelopment, with the Queensland Government promising $60 million, the AFL $10 million and the Gold Coast City Council $20 million. --- So there you go, the AFL contributED $10 million to the redevelopment. As far as I know, they never spent anything on the old carrara - so my initial point stands, we don't know how the millions the AFL have spent on the ground have gone because the development is not complete. |
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| Not a razoo as far as I know, thus far. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| From memory, Carrara was a park which was bought out by Quintex and Skase, and redeveloped before the Bears were granted a licence I dont think the VFL spent a cent on the ground . |
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| So, so far $116 million of a $126 million dollar redevelopment has been funded by various levels of government. I assume there is also some level of private sector investment meaning the AFL's contribution to the REDEVELOPMENT amount to pretty much stuff all on the whole. There go Nye, happy now? |
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| October 2009: Queensland Premier Anna Bligh has released the first images of what the completed Gold Coast Stadium at Carrara will look like – giving the Gold Coast an exclusive sneak peak of what the $126 million project has to offer. The Bligh Government has committed $60 million towards the stadium - part of the Government’s record $18.2 billion building program which is protecting 127,000 jobs across the State. Federal Minister for Infrastructure, Anthony Albanese MP said the federal funding of $36 million showed that the Rudd Government was serious about delivering infrastructure which means jobs on the Gold Coast. The funding towards the stadium is through the $800 million Community Infrastructure Program - the largest one-off investment in local infrastructure in Australia's history. |
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| March 2009: The final hurdle facing Gold Coast's confirmation as the AFL's 17th licence appeared to be cleared last night after a local council meeting. After a submission in person from AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou, Gold Coast City Council moved toward agreeing to transfer ownership of Carrara Stadium to the State Government, freeing the AFL to lease the ground from the Government, which three weeks ago committed $60 million to a partial redevelopment. Demetriou was accompanied by his No. 2, Gillon McLachlan, in the meeting, chaired by Gold Coast Mayor Ron Clarke. "I made the analogy that this is like getting over the last hurdle, and now it is just a run to the tape," Clarke said yesterday. "We've got over all those water jumps and steeplechase hurdles . . . a lot of people invested a lot of time. Demetriou and McLachlan made a presentation, and council virtually endorsed what they were saying, recognised what a great asset the AFL licence would be. "There are a few negotiation points now to be had with the State Government, as the State Government is virtually taking over our asset, and we hope by Friday council can agree to the principles of the agreement." Gold Coast council has also committed $20 million to the stadium's stage one redevelopment, costed at $130 million, provided the Federal Labor Government also contributes. |
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| February 2009: The AFL needs to jointly raise $180 million from the state, federal and local governments for its new stadium at Carrara, generally understood to be the sticking point for the GC17 bid. Gold Coast Mayor, Ron Clarke denies the future of the club depends on the Queensland government, but believes the AFL needs to look elsewhere if the stadium is to be built without further hurdles. "I've said from the start you can't rely on the state government for a major contribution," said Clarke, who has already publicly put forward $20 million from council coffers. |
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| ContributED, not ARE contributing. Funny thing is, the biggest crowd at the stadium was for a rugby league match. Total cost for redevelopment (in 2007) was 150 - 200 million and the AFL certainly have no intention of paying for much of this. In 2007 Demetriou was adamant the deal was not dependant on government funding, but said, "We have got various groups interested in the stadium. But this Government have been fantastic supporters of football. They have demonstrated that with what they have given to AFLQ over the years and have been fantastic with what they have done with the Gabba." |
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| TCTM, that is for the rebuilding that is happening for the GC17 side - so we won't find out how that went until 2011. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| "the AFL contributed millions to Carrara AFL ground" >>>>>>>> HAHAHA. And how did that work out for them? |
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| Yeah but not the whole story - the AFL contributed millions to Carrara AFL ground and the NRL contributed nothing to Robina. THis issue is far from finished. I cant wait to see Rees give the money to hospitals and railways now - the last person that said that was the Qld Opposition leader who is still in Opposition.. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Not surprising After a few spats with the GC Titans over the configuration and scheduling at Carrara in 07, the AFL refused to fund or be involved with the development of Skilled Stadium at Robina. So, when the GC franchise was stalling due to a lack of a suitable venue , DogFace Bligh and Kevvy Rudd threw $60 million of taxpayers money to the AFL towards the redevelopment at Carrara |
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| "It's a bit rich asking for all that money when there is a perfectly good facility right next door," Manly chairman Scott Penn said.Canterbury CEO Todd Greenberg added: "In the current economic climate, I doubt if any government would commit more taxpayer funding towards stadia infrastructure at Sydney Olympic Park." Asked where his team would play if the showground was unavailable, AFL NSW/ACT general manager Dale Holmes said: "We have a range of options and we are talking to a range of stakeholders. " |
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| BUCKLING under a backlash from an angry rugby league community, NSW Premier Nathan Rees has ditched a $45 million plan to help the AFL's western Sydney franchise build a new home ground. The Daily Telegraph yesterday revealed an audacious AFL request for the money from the Rees Government - and an additional $25 million from the Federal Government - to redevelop the Sydney Showground at Homebush Bay. NRL clubs were furious that $70 million would go towards the showground's revamp despite the venue being just 300m from the all-purpose $620 million ANZ Stadium. After budgeting for crowds of 15,000, GWS rejected an offer to play exclusively at ANZ Stadium, fearing 65,000 empty seats may embarrass the code on national television. After coming under fire from rugby league fans, bloggers and officials, Premier Rees crash-tackled the plan. "We're not about to give that sort of money to the AFL for a stadium next to an existing stadium," he said. "I'd much rather spend the money on hospitals and schools. "They have approached us for a contribution to a reconfiguration of the ground next to ANZ Stadium and we've indicated consistently that's not a priority for us." Rees said the State Labor Government, over the past decade, had outlaid $170 million to help upgrade NRL facilities. "Rugby league has been generously supported by us and the taxpayers of NSW and that continues," Rees told radio station 2MMM's Grill Team. About 80 per cent of respondents to a Daily Telegraph online poll yesterday voted against Rees giving AFL the cash. NRL officials were still amazed yesterday that the NSW and Federal Governments would even contemplate spending $70 million of taxpayers' money to revamp a ground that GWS only plans to use for eight matches a season. "It's a bit rich asking for all that money when there is a perfectly good facility right next door," Manly chairman Scott Penn said.Canterbury CEO Todd Greenberg added: "In the current economic climate, ... |
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| I saw recently where Kevin 747 said Rees is a good premier. Maybe Rudd would like to work for the West Sydney aussie rules club also. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Nathan Rees is not so dumb. He's setting up a job for himself for when he and his inept cronies get belted next election. The photo of he and the aussie rules boss shows Rees is p!ssing in the pockets of the right people, employment wise. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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