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By: adrianshere
5/08/2009
5:19 pm

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Re:Good Budget
tiger..the ones that dont fit in the car happily run along beside.

By: tigerette_64
5/08/2009
5:14 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Really Adrian? Are you a good, efficient serviceman?

By: adrianshere
5/08/2009
5:12 pm

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Re:Good Budget
im a proud ex serviceman too nev.....servicing all the women i have you would be too.

By: master_of_none_00
5/08/2009
5:02 pm

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Re:Good Budget
so what's the answer nev? Bar all immigrants?

By: adrianshere
5/08/2009
5:00 pm

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Re:Good Budget
it was all done with smoke and mirrors.

By: nevillejohnson85
5/08/2009
4:56 pm

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Re:Good Budget
From my personal opinion "Hicks" gave up all rights to be called an Aussie the day he started his training with the Taliban and A/Q.

Treason it certainly is. But as mentioned the US farked up the procedure and he has not been prosecuted for his crimes.

I am a proud ex-serviceman and very patriotic. Given the opportunity again I would without hesitation sign on the dotted line to serve my country again.

By: once_was_chucker
5/08/2009
4:50 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Hicks got what he deserved
Trained with Al Qaeda, and joined forces with them to fight the Afghan government allies - that is something he admitted.
His actions were treason - Breaker Morant was sent in front of a firing squad for less.

By: nevillejohnson85
5/08/2009
4:49 pm

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I just lost all respect for you as you clearly DO NOT have a farkin clue what you are talking about.

Have you any Idea just how ingenius these people are? How they make an IED/ Roadside bomb and disguise it in a pizza box, dead animal etc????

nye this is a very important and sensitive subject and until a serious terrorist attack occurrs on our home soil, then it is people with attitudes like yours who will allow it to happen. Once it happens then the like will be screaming foul on why it happened.

FFS it is going to happen here it is just a matter of time before it does.

By: nyeninch
5/08/2009
4:49 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Hahaha. On that note, I'm off for the night. Catch you all tomorrow.

By: lokikane
5/08/2009
4:47 pm

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Hicks greatest crime was that he obviously a dimwit that had a burning desire to feel wanted. If it wasnt terrorists he was feeding he would have been a cult target anyway.
The man ticks all the boxes of having misplaced anger and alienation issues when he was younger.
You cant crucify someone for being a dumb as fu//ck retard.
Well..... not everyone of 'em anyway.

By: adrianshere
5/08/2009
4:46 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Biggest terrorists on earth...always were always will be....

the US govt with the CIA.

By: nyeninch
5/08/2009
4:45 pm

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Re:Good Budget
The US made sure the Hicks affair was a farce - they denied him a fair trial, thus denying the possibility of him being found guilty of whatever crimes he may have committed.

Their brutal fk up was unfair to all sides.

By: lokikane
5/08/2009
4:43 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Hicks?
Did the crime, did the time. Leave him alone to get on with his life. Hes no threat to anyone but himself now. The Septics made sure of that!

By: nyeninch
5/08/2009
4:39 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Nev - terrorists don't travel to countries via a life threatening and illegal manner! They get legal access and fly in via commercial airlines.

Why the fk would a terrorist risk death at sea and the very real chance of being sent straight back!?

As I said, typical dumb as fk regurgetation of media/government driven scare tactics!

By: nevillejohnson85
5/08/2009
4:39 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Pleas nye inform me of your opinion of "David Hicks"

By: once_was_chucker
5/08/2009
4:39 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Boat people who arrive on Australian soil are entitled to free legal representation at the cost of the Australian taxpayers.
Hence, Christmas Island was legislated by the Howard Govt not to be Australian soil, and by shipping them off to Nauru, the boat people no longer get taxpayer funded representation. When the law was introduced, the Labor party ( under Beasley), Greens and Democrats jumped up and down about the law, but the Rudd govt has decided to leave the law as is.

By: nyeninch
5/08/2009
4:37 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Exactly Loki.

Not to mention the intelligence and perfection required by everyone involved in a 'mass uprising in multiple countries' to not only organi5e such a feat, but keep it quiet from global intelligence agencies etc AND then pull it off effectively.

By: nevillejohnson85
5/08/2009
4:36 pm

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Then, if they survive the trip, our fked up government does a bit of political point scoring by imprisoning them or sending them back to Afghan/Pakistan to almost certain death.

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The law is there for a reason nye.

How easy would it be for terrorist to exploit the relaxed laws that farked up good samaritans with soft hearts want to change the current laws to????

I take it that you have not worked with Iraqi's, Lebannese, Afgani's, Pakisat.a.n.i.s, or Aussies who have lost relatives & close mates through terrorist activities. If you had then I doubt very much that you would be making these comments.

I am trying my best to show respect to you for your opinions.

By: lokikane
5/08/2009
4:31 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Aaaahhh....but education does not necessarily equate to intelligence.
He may be educated but he, by his actions, views and statements, is also a gutless, on the run, whinging, ignorant, hypocritical little b!t/ch.

By: nyeninch
5/08/2009
4:29 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Nev, if you do possess knowledge beyond the typical, please share it. All I've read from you so far is the usual negative stereotyping that the uninformed masses regurgetate from the equally uninformed media.

I have these arguments all the time with the One Nation loving, gun lobby members I share regional QLD with. They like to quote the Koran to me - but they've never seen a copy of it, let alone read it! But if ACA says so, it must be true!

By: nevillejohnson85
5/08/2009
4:22 pm

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Re:Good Budget
nye,

I could easily argue with you about your points of view but I will not.

I will ask you this; Consider that Osama Bin Laden is a very intelligent man well educated at Oxford and else where.

Wouldn't a man of his intellect have a back up plan for when and if the western infidels manage to capture or kill him. Hint: Sleeper cells would be sent the message and they would all awaken to mass attacks on the western societies, USA, UK, NZ, AUS, CAN etc???? Please understand I do know what I am talking about when it comes to CT.

By: nyeninch
5/08/2009
4:06 pm

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Re:Good Budget
Kinger, Afghan 'conflict' was given the go ahead to eliminate the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and to find Osama.

Hmmm, Osama is still out there, the terror cells are getting stronger and now Pakistan is off side because the US keeps crossing their border to find Osama!

As for you 'passed through 30 countries before taking the boat ride' comment - that just shows your complete lack of knowledge of the subject.

They pay people smugglers while they are in Afghani5tan, they are then smuggled into Pakistan where they get on the 'boat' (usually no bigger than what you see trolling for fish 500m off the coast on a weekend).

Then, if they survive the trip, our fked up government does a bit of political point scoring by imprisoning them or sending them back to Afghan/Pakistan to almost certain death.

By: lokikane
5/08/2009
3:44 pm

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Re:Good Budget
<<<trust our intelligence agencies to pick up these prospective terrorist attacks, as they did yesterday. Average Joe (or Mohammad) that immigrates into this country deserves to be treated with the same respect that you or I would expect.>>>

I agree. But there also has to be a recognition of the laws and constitution of this country for respect to be issued too. If that respect is not forthcoming then any individual, regardless of cultural identity has to face whatever the consequences may be from our own legal system.
While residing in Australia they, like the rest of us, are answerable to our laws, not tribal or Sharia law, not the laws of whatever culture theyre originally from.
Customs can and should be respected and carried out without persecution or prejudice (well....most of them - im not going to enter into a debate about female circumcision and the like).
And as long as the kebab joint down the road from me stays open, alls sweet.

By: kingerik22
5/08/2009
3:41 pm

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Re:Good Budget
btw afghan was UN approved

By: kingerik22
5/08/2009
3:41 pm

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Re:Good Budget
coalition of the willing u mean the ones the media refer to USA, England and Australia ... or the many other nations that joined in
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