By: master_of_none_00 28/12/2008 11:22 pm Yahoo! Profile: master_of_none_00 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Who really cares, most really fast bowlers are rubbish anyway.
The most prolific seam bowlers are McGrath and Walsh...Walsh was fairly rapid in his days, but for most of their of their respective careers neither got much above medium pace.
It's better to be good than quick. |
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By: cuzizedzo 28/12/2008 9:05 pm Yahoo! Profile: cuzizedzo Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Yes he has.
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/1 45858.html |
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By: terrycopter 28/12/2008 6:14 pm Yahoo! Profile: terrycopter Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| lee has never bowled at 160kph |
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By: waratah112001 28/12/2008 6:09 pm Yahoo! Profile: waratah112001 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| and he was good at picking seams!!!! |
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By: browntree10 27/12/2008 7:24 am Yahoo! Profile: browntree10 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I hate to spoil the "Australian party" but there are more cricketers out there than just Australians.
Thommo may have been feared and respected but he cannot to compare to someone like the fearsome Waqar Younis.
Waqar astounded the cricket world on his arrival in the cricket scene in the late 80's early 90's.
Apart from holding the record for the best strike rate among bowlers with 200 or more Test wickets, he would get his wickets either hitting stumps or lbw's unlike any bowler in the history of cricket.
His toe crushers and accuracy are legendary to fans and also to the respective batsmen.
After his back injury (stress fracture)which caused him to miss the World Cup in 1992, he was still bowling at 153 km/hr (96 mph), beating a peak Allan Donald in their unofficial competition.
We can all imagine he would have been bowling much much faster than that prior to his stress fracture.
It is no wonder that people like Martin Crowe yelled "the fastest bowler I have ever faced". A sentiment shared by Harold (Dickie) Bird who had seen all the previous quickies like Thommo, Lillee, Tyson etc.
Therefore I have no doubt that had he been totally injury free. This man would have been without a shadow of a doubt the most magnificient, awe-inspiring, fearsome, destructive bowler of all time.
This man of course is the legendary Waqar Younis. |
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By: coslb 29/10/2008 12:39 am Yahoo! Profile: coslb Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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another vote for Thommo.
Apparently Keith Miller said he scared him even watching as a spectator from the stands! |
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By: dwilliams1942 28/10/2008 7:22 pm Yahoo! Profile: dwilliams1942 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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My friend,
You're just a Bloody Legend who knows his Cricket.
But i hvae to correct you. It's Jeff Thomson, not Thompson.
I too also, earlier on this thread, nominated him. Can't believe it's still a hot issue one week later.
let's hope the LATE NIGHT LEGENDS show returns on ABC 2 this summer with more of those retro Test cricket programs! |
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By: pejon60 27/10/2008 5:12 pm Yahoo! Profile: pejon60 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Jeff Thompson was without a doubt the fastest bowler in history. You only have to compare how far back the wickie and slips stood compared to other bowlers to see that.
Rod Marsh said that when he first kept to Thompson he started the first over in the same position he would have been for Lillee at his fastest. By the end of the over he estimates he had moved 8 metres deeper.
I saw Thompson at the SCG in his last season for NSW before he moved to QLD. He bowled a bouncer against the Queenslanders that was still climbing when it went over the keeper. It landed 1 bounce short of the fence.
Greg Chappell was so intimdated by him that he went to the top administrators of QLD Cricket and told them to get him to QLD whatever it cost.
Larwood by all accounts bowled a lot faster than 140km which has been stated in an earlier post. Most good judges at the time put him closer to 150+ consistently. What made him even more dangerous was the fact that he only stood 5ft 8 inches tall. Yet he could still get prodigious bounce from short of a length. Plus he was extremely accurate.
Tyson was very fast too. So was Michael Holding. I think the scariest of the WI bowlers was Malcolm Marshall. He was very fast but because of his shorter stature the ball skidded on to you, so its pace at the batsman had not diminished as much. Just like Larwood |
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By: hornet68au 27/10/2008 4:48 pm Yahoo! Profile: hornet68au Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| My mistake, Andy Roberts broke David Hookes' jaw |
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By: nye_ninch 27/10/2008 11:33 am Yahoo! Profile: nye_ninch Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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McCosker had his jaw broken against the Poms, not Andy Roberts (unless it was broken twice!).
The bowler was Bob Willis and it was the centenary test. Doesn't matter though, your point is valid - bowlers are not as fearsome now that the protection is so much better.
I can't imagine facing the likes of the West Indian quicks etc without a helmet - a good reason why bodyline was so controversial! Larwood, from what limited footage is available, has been estimated at around the 140kph mark - quick enough to do a lot of damage when bowling short on the uncovered pitches of the 1930's!
Thommo was recorded at 160 and anyone who has faced him or fielded while he is bowling has said that the gun that day was used at a time where his pace had dropped off a little due to various reasons. Scary thought! |
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By: hornet68au 27/10/2008 11:15 am Yahoo! Profile: hornet68au Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Sorry, just ask the Poms. |
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By: hornet68au 27/10/2008 11:14 am Yahoo! Profile: hornet68au Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| One reason for people saying the Windies in the 70's were so fearsome was because of the lack of protection available to batsmen so the fear of being hurt was very real. I believe nowadays this has been tempered with helmets, arm guards, chest protectors, inside/outside thigh pads. Whilst injuries do still occur it is nowhere near the severity of the good old days. When was the last time you saw a broken jaw a'la Rick McCosker courtesy of Andy Roberts. Anecdotal evidence does support the Thommo claims of him being a lot faster than recorded, just us the Poms, why do you think Tony Greig decided to wear a motorcycle helmet against him and not beforehand against the Windies. |
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By: once_was_chucker 21/10/2008 4:43 pm Yahoo! Profile: once_was_chucker Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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We will never know
Frank Tyson and Wes Hall were both described as being terrifyingly fast by batsmen of their time.
Thommo was exceptional in the bounce he got off a good length that made his pace even more difficult to deal with. He was never the same bowler after his shoulder dislocation in the summer of 77. |
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By: nye_ninch 21/10/2008 3:18 pm Yahoo! Profile: nye_ninch Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Truman, Malcolm, Lindwall??? GET OFF THE GRASS!
Thompson was recorded at 161km/h and everyone who was with him that day, as well as the man himself, say it was nowhere near his fastest. Unofficial speed recordings taken from footage suggest he pushed well into the mid 160's and even close to 170!
Any footage of the quicks from the Bradman era show them to be around the 140 mark - Larwood etc. Modern quicks like Lee and Shoab are the quickest to be recorded under modern technology. |
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By: alreadyamazed 21/10/2008 3:09 pm Yahoo! Profile: alreadyamazed Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Ray Lindwall |
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By: dwilliams1942 21/10/2008 2:52 pm Yahoo! Profile: dwilliams1942 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Thomson, that's exactly right!
A millers beer for the gentlemen! |
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By: stinaikar_2000 21/10/2008 4:34 am Yahoo! Profile: stinaikar_2000 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Shoaib's bowling action is definitely suspect. I have seen him bowl many times and he comes across as a chucker. Chucking helps a fast bowler more than it helps a spinner. I have to say Jeff Thomson. |
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By: shahzad_faisal15 21/10/2008 3:35 am Yahoo! Profile: shahzad_faisal15 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Well as far as speed is concernd,Shoaib Akhtar is the fastest bowlar ever in world cricket.And he has also produced number of furious bowling spells that would be remembered as glory of cricket. |
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By: mip_ceo 18/12/2007 12:37 pm Yahoo! Profile: mip_ceo Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Freddie Trueman |
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By: chucker_khan 18/12/2007 12:25 pm Yahoo! Profile: chucker_khan Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Fastest recorded reading
Sylvester Clark throwing brick into crowd at Pakistan hitting teenager, with 3000 objects thrown back at 200kph within seconds |
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By: ervin.joseph58 18/12/2007 11:20 am Yahoo! Profile: ervin.joseph58 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| please don't hold me against this but from what i know, Brett Lee has bowled the fastest over and ball to date. the fastest ball was recorded at 161.9km/h. this ball was bowled during a game against New Zealand at Mclean Park. it was also part of the fastest over. the over consisted of the following speeds in this order:- 143.7km/h, 151.3km/h, 158.2km/h, 158.9km/h, 160.0 km/h, 161.9km/h, 158.5km/h. the fourth ball was a wide that is why there is seven speeds. |
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By: the_luv_goat 31/08/2007 4:16 pm Yahoo! Profile: the_luv_goat Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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what is the bowling speed of malcolm marshall?
He has passed on hasn't he?
Therefore his bowling speed is 0 |
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By: vishal_ruc 31/08/2007 4:12 pm Yahoo! Profile: vishal_ruc Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| what is the bowling speed of malcolm marshall of westindies? |
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By: toroscuderia 30/03/2007 11:12 am Yahoo! Profile: toroscuderia Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| I am not suggesting he was the fastest ever, but I do recall Devon Malcolm (yes, a Pom), being described by some Aussies as producing the fastest spell they had ever faced. I can't remember when it happened, I think it was in England, but Boonie, Slater and S Waugh (?) all said it was flat out. What made it worse was no one, Devon inlcuded had any idea where the ball would pitch either! |
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