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| I hear you MON but he is talking bollox. I tell you what, if Australia had the chance of picking Flintoff tomorrow they would bite his hand off to have him in the current side. Do you agree ?? |
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| lol, don't criticise the Poms! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ISC your talking out of your ar se mate. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Look ICS, he's only been back for 5 tests and 9 ODIs since his 18 month injury lay-off, and he still managed to grab the MOS award in the ODI series against SA. His bowling is just about as good as it has ever been and the batting continues to improve albeit rather slowly. So no one here in the UK is worried about him, they're all just glad that for the first time in almost three years, he has been able to go the last series completely pain-free. The re-building work starts from here on. |
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| true, but you're not comparing him to much there. He's missed large amounts of cricket and if the other bowlers struggle and he's forced to bowl more then the same will happen. Not saying that when he's on fire he's not dangerous, but those bursts are fewer and further between. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| liked your earlier comments, isc, but youre a bit harsh on fat freddy. allrounders are always going to be a little more injury-prone, thats why good captains dont overuse them. i reckon kp's got more (and better) mileage out of him lately than say, punters got from watson, or vettori from oram. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| "Flintoff passed his best?? He is on fire at the moment bowling like a ledgend! Broad has plenty in his locker too! Can't wait to see aussie pies being chucked down the wicket to be hammered over the boundary!!" If by 'ledgend' you mean LEGEND, then no, he is not. If by 'ledgend' you mean overworked injury prone older man who has small bursts of good bowling then maybe. Since the start of the ashes in 2006 he has taken 26 wickets in 10 tests, hardly intimidating stuff when compared with the fact he took 31 in the 7 tests in the 2005 ashes and 1 off match against australia for the icc rest of world team alone. He is past it, he's a handy back up is all, if he bowls too much his injuries flare and he misses big chunks of a year. If he bowls alot against the windies he may not play against australia! |
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| Hi Neon, Actually I think he sent it down to second slip. I was there and when it happened I thought....Oh Dear its going to be a long summer. And it was !!! |
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| Hi Neon, Actually I think he sent it down to second slip. I was there and when it happened I thought....Oh Dear its going to be a long summer. And it was !!! |
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| yikes! the Ashes is only months away? WOW!! wasn't it only yesterday that Steve Harmison was sending down that wide delivery to Flintoff at first slip?? anyway my point is : sheez! time flies and look at how much things have changed with the Aussies in that time... |
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| Surely not! Sidebottom has been out of the game for the last 5 months due to injury!!!!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| By: dspacemonkey Come on, England always are raving how good they are whats new. Who who who....sidebottom, oh of course who could forget the intimidating sidebottom +++++++++++ Oh really? ICC bowler rankings? 1 897 M. Muralidaran 2 858 D.W. Steyn 3 796 M. Ntini 4 790 S.R. Clark 5 741 M.G. Johnson 6 723 R.J. Sidebottom 7 686 Harbhajan Singh 8 684 Shoaib Akhtar 9 680 B. Lee 10 676 W.P.U.J.C. Vaas ++++++++++++++++ Oh yes and in case you haven't noticed Australia have just lost their first home series for 16 years. |
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| Come on, England always are raving how good they are whats new. Who who who....sidebottom, oh of course who could forget the intimidating sidebottom. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Flintoff passed his best?? He is on fire at the moment bowling like a ledgend! Broad has plenty in his locker too! Can't wait to see aussie pies being chucked down the wicket to be hammered over the boundary!! |
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| "might" sven? hardly. Please, bowl hoggard and/or anderson. Put harmi in just for old times sake too. Pop guns at best, and aged ones at that. Flintoffs bowling is long past it's best too. Collingwood is an average bat at best, shah/bopara untested and swann yet to play on non- sub continental spin friendly turf. Get through the next 6 tests against the west indies unscathed and then MAYBE I'll consider it an interesting team.. |
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| Nice try, ICS, however, they will still succumb to the might of Strauss Cook Shah KP Colly Bopara Prior Flintoff Swann Sidebottom Hoggard / Anderson Interesting team, ey? All have have to do now is get Mr. Moore's job.... |
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| thanks mip. Australia will be stronger for the ashes than this series. Jaques will be back (i know some don't rate him, but 3 tons and 6 50's in 11 tests is good going, especially when 6 of those tests were against India and Sri Lanka and he scored 2 tons and 4 50's), so too Clark, Symonds and Lee will be fit (physically anyhow) and McGain will get his chance as spinner I would suggest, given how much england loves to face a leggie. If Bollinger and/or hilfenhaus do well in the meatime there will be genuine contention for spots, and an eeriely similar set-up to some of australias strongest teams. Jaques is haydens obvious replacement, an aggressive opener who hits clean and hard. Katich for Langer, seen as a grafter and fighter, but values his wicket and can score well. Ponting. Hussey. Clarke Symonds Haddin- can bat, not quite a gilchrist but an exquisite striker of a ball, can and will score more test 100's. Johnson- Takes wickets, had an awesome 2008, bowls fast, a but of movement, good 1st change bowler and can bat. Hilf- a bit of Gillespie about him, bowls quick and puts it in good areas, a perfect foil for clark. Clark- McGrath. Clark destroyed england in 2006-7. McGain- Not proven yet, but who knows??? |
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| Beautifully put ISC....like your style fella. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| mip, i don't think it was silence in agreeance, more like it was showing the (lack of) respect it deserved by letting it through to the keeper. It was a dummy ball aimed at producing a rash stroke. Some of our batsmen so far this series could learn a thing or two about leaving deliveries like that.. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Wow, with 7 months still to go, we can conclude that the first salvos in the Ashes 2009 series have been fired. It could literally be the fight for the number 3 spot in test cricket as opposed to the fight for the number 1 4 years ago. Either way, I'll be getting my tickets soon enough. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I'll make this prediction now...if Ponting is still skipper of the Australian team when the Ashes series starts (and no doubt he will be) and if things aren't going Australias way, England will win them back, because Ponting is not a good Captain when the chips are down, he proved it when they lost the Ashes series, in India earlier this year, and in this Series against South Africa. He will not be remembered as one of Australias greatest Captains, he lets his ego get in the way, I've said that for a while now and I get laughed at... so now's your chance to laugh as well. |
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| Oh Dear....does that mean you all agree. Blimey I can feel the nerves out there. |
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| So I reckon England should win this 3-1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Of course - you are speculating that vaughn makes it back into the side. And while the moral support may be good - can he play now, will he be in form. Seems if he isn't in form - then thats the loss of a batsman in the side |
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| Kip I must admit I agree with everything you have said. Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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