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| "I would rather see a league with 20 teams and local talent on display than a league with 8 teams filled with imports and struggling to pay players....." I'm an import (non basketball lol), been here for a couple years and your right. I love Aussie B-Ball but the buck starts here, not overseas. I've coached my Aussie kids team and it amazes me with all the participation why nationally the game isn't stronger. In the end, it's like others said, it's mismanagement on a national level. To be honest, with my limited knowledge, it seems bball is taught here in a weird international style to kids, like a confused mix of international and nba styles. Figure out what is Aussie Ball and run with it. I say don't get players from the NBA, if your going to use any NBA business model make it FANTASTIC. "cash for AMERICANS when we should be spending the money on local talent" Amen. The emotion that goes into the game is the same for Aussie ballers as it is for NBA ballers, the diff is support. Spend the money on local talent, in the end your game will be EXPORTED, folks will be knocking on your door. Development baby, do it right here first, then go outside. The stars of the league need to come from Australia, that way people get more invested emotionally. The economy here IMO is going to boom for a longggg time, lots of bucks for ball'n. You may think I'm nuts but in ten years with the proper growth I can imagine an NBL team doing an exhibition match against an NBA team and winning. The talent is here folks. |
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| I hope they do it right, it might get me back in the stands. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| There will be a team from Sydney next year and Brisbane as well. But Sydney is a sure bet and Brisbane if not next season 2011/2012. There should be another team from Melbourne as well during that time. We lost free to air TV because of certain owners and board members becoming greedy now they have fallen by the waste side and we have people on board who love the game and want to see it thrive. The only question mark is the Refs as some are very ordinary while others are excellent. Some smart marketing has made the game big in QLD and WA as they have and always will focus on grass roots basketball, now the rest of the league is following suit. For Sydney they need the former kings greats to get on board and Brisbane should get Leaping Leroy Loggins on board as he is the reason why the Bullets where so good. |
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| imprudent business decisions (i.e. expansion to Singapore, lack of games on free to air TV) and primarily what you and others have stated - bush league marketing. There's a product with grass roots appeal and market potential, but the NBL (now new and improved...) continue to shoot themselves in the foot. How do you have a credible league without franchises in Sydney or Brisbane? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| The marketing and presentation are bush league, some folks need to do their homework. From what I understand the league was going strong fifteen years ago, what killed the golden goose? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I used to go to every Bullets game in the early years but stopped going. Went to one a few years ago with my son but we left because the music was so damn loud I didn't see the point to both of us loosing our hearing for a game added to which every time the Bullets started to make a run and the crowd get involved out came the loud music to kill of any atmosphere. From what I have seen on fox this is still happening and is the real reason crowds are down too noisy and no atmosphere. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| first of all, why would you start a competion around the grand finals of AFL & Rubly league. What better way of people not noticing a competition that is played in the wrong time of year (just like A league soccer)... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Footy is almost finished, now I'll see what the NBL has to offer...Oh Hum | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| We have one of the best comps in the world!! We don't have the money like other countries but we have a great competition!! People come here to play on less money as we have a great competition!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| who cares NBL is a joke, basketball in OZ is an even bigger joke....good riddance | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Taipans for example, too many imports all that cash for AMERICANS when we should be spending the money on local talent. Taipans were always going to struggle considering the way the Qld govt was screwing them with the lease agreement at the Cairns convention centre. Under the agreement, all profits from food and alcohol went to the centre, and the Taipans only got profits from sale of merchandise and tickets. The club was losing money every week, even before the global financial crisis The Taipans had a very good junior academy, in which their rookies were sent to the US college system to develop their games before they turned professional. Check out their website |
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| No, we are now up to 28 in Football. Moving up the rankings swiftly. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Yes it will be interesting to see what the restructure brings to the table. Pro basketball(NBL) will be running out of chances OR is this the last chance they have to get it right? I hope they get it right, to have Australia ranked 2 in the world overall is absolutely amazing and so sad administrators cant get the game moving the way it should look at soccer they would die for that ranking what are we? 35-40 ranked in soccer? |
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| Let's see what the restructure brings. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| The best thing for the league is to support local talent but at the same time they shouldnt shun Americans who want to play in the league. Thats the difference between professional sport and amateur sport. You cant run a league and knock back talented players who are entertaining and bring in the fans and corporate dollar just because of their country of origin. You cant have your cake and eat it to. The EPL is one of the biggest money spinners in the world and the teams are filled with people who are not of English origin. Not saying we should run teams full of non aussies but the foreign player quota should be increased. I like the idea of an Asian league however in the worlds current economic climate its not feasable. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I have enjoyed reading everyones comments. I know a few NBL players who are currently playing and they are obviously nervous about there future and the state of the game presently. Let me share a little about what I have learnt through there comments. BA taking the reins of all basketball is good and positive. Next season will have 8 teams in the league. Each team will have to show proof of 1 million dollars available before the season starts. There is talk of linking to a new Asian league 2010. Singapore Slingers are playing all over Asia trying to gather support for this concept. Makes sense to me as in many countries in Asia Basketball is HUGE!! Its the national game in China and Phillipines. TV audiences in millions tuning in to watch. Someone made the comment about Oz being to small a market with AFL, Rugby and League etc...too hard to compete in a country of 22 million? I think so, expanding to Asia makes sense to me. A good business model is Super 14 rugby or Euro league in basketball. The standard/quality of basketball in australia is very high and we have a lot to offer the game worldwide. I look foward to seeing what BA does with the Pro league and the new contract with Fox sports points to positive things for the game. There will be some pain before gain and we all need to understand that. Most importantly we all need to go along and support the game. I went to Dragons vs Tigers and was part of 9300 people there and the atmosphere was electric. It can work but we all have to get behind and support rather than complain all the time. What do you reckon? Are you with me? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Man, I hope the powers to be do something or Basketball in this country is up shyte creek. Come on what the fu@k is going on, I tell you what the problem is, Taipans for example, too many imports all that cash for AMERICANS when we should be spending the money on local talent.Don't get me wrong Imports are good for Basketball in this country 1 or 2 imports per team but you look at NBL team rosters now and you'll find 3 or 4, all that cash. Ok! so they may not get top dollar say you pay the guy $150,000 a year,just an example,that's one American import, times that by 3 your looking at $600,000 dollars before you even start a roster and in this country that sort of money is big bucks. We will never match the NBA when it comes to money so we need to develop a system where our loacl talent can shine and even if the NBL team rosters have only one import and more Aussies maybe then we will see a stronger League. I'm not saying pay the local guys less money, but if the guys are talented enough pay them there dues. I would rather see a league with 20 teams and local talent on display than a league with 8 teams filled with imports and struggling to pay players..... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| sniff.. sniff {ne0n_dj wipes away a tear}... a last Christmas for the current NBL as we know it.... aaah the memories... | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| <<<The love of the game in this country is healthy.>>> True, very true infact. Its the love of the product thats in question. |
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| ** Taken from: http://www.preneurmarketing.com/uncategorised/savi ng-basketball-australia-and-the-nbl/ Firstly, let me say 'well done' on the vote yesterday to merge the NBL & Basketball Australia - It was always going to be a battle to try and progress the sport, when the face of the sport (NBL) can't keep teams in it's league. As FoxSports.com.au reported "Australian basketball officials have celebrated a momentous day in the chequered history of the sport in this country, with an unanimous agreement to bring the national and domestic organizing bodies under the one umbrella." The best part of what has been reported thus far is "With this agreement, the new administration is set to press ahead with its negotiations with Fox whose proposal is believed to include live coverage of every game in a revamped NBL from the 2009-10 season onward, plus regular internationals featuring the Boomers and Opals"...I must congratulate whoever negotiated this 'potential deal' given "the 2007/08 final Championship game attracted only 68,000 viewers on Fox Sports - about 10% of basketball participants in this country." The one thing that I hope the BA board, club owners and everyone else involved in the league realise is that "It's not about putting a winning team on the floor"... Yes you read that right. CONTINUE READING AT: http://www.preneurmarketing.com/uncategorised/savi ng-basketball-australia-and-the-nbl/ |
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| It's going, going, gooonneeeee. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| The love of the game in this country is healthy. The national league and corporate and fan support for its teams are not. I must say i thought the Hawks would be the next team in trouble and iam surprised that the Taipains are staring down the barrel. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| As I said, if you are correct with your comments, the NBL (and basketball in this country) will not survive the next couple of years. Perth - in trouble, Sydney - in bigger trouble, Cairns - fked. This is a sport that was hugely popular as recently as 15 years ago. Perth in the early 90's was almost as fanatical about the Wildcats as they were about the West Coast Eagles. The last decade has seen the sport go from bad to worse and crowds are pathetic. While I don't think losing the sport is a bad thing, plenty out there will disagree and for those people I wish the game well. But, as I have suggested, it can only be through mass changes and streamlining of teams that this can happen. OR, maybe the nation should support maybe 3 sides in a foreign league (if there is one out there willing). Worth a look at. |
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| "Well, smart ar5e, who's making the poor calls now! Though if you are correct, and the Taipans are one of the 2 most supported and best run clubs in the NBL, the game is as good as DEAD!" I stand by my comments. Cairns is one of the best supported clubs in the league and the fact that they are in this position has little to do with that. And they have been well ran. They are not the first sporting club in the world who are coping badly with the financial crisis and the fact that they are going into administration is more a sign of the world global financial crisis and the state of the NBL then the Cairns Taipains basketball club smarta$$. Honda, despite there size, has pulled out of F1 racing and the F1 is really starting to hurt. Any huge sports fan will tell you that clubs everywhere are hurting. Alot of sporting franchises in the US are slashing their payrolls as are several EPL clubs. |
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