By: counter.p0int
8/11/2009
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11 day old baby, and in paedetric care.
Suspect that there is much more to this story than has been released. |
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By: andersonanne24
8/11/2009
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Why is everyone worried about the mother and making judgements about her mental/physical state???
Maybe the BABY is unwell/needing medical help for any number of reasons.If the baby was well I think it would have been in a foster home at that age.They DO NOT keep healthy newborns in hospital.
Medical staff DO NOT separate mothers and babies unless it is for a VERY good reason!!
Also there is NO mention of DOCS being involved as far as I see.
I wish people would STOP making judgements about this until the facts are known.This mother may not have fully understood why her baby was in hospital and has now been "labelled" because she wanted her child with her at home. |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
8/11/2009
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Also there is NO mention of DOCS being involved as far as I see.
Doesn't need a mention of DOCS, those thugs are invariably involved with incidents involving children |
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By: pol_pak
8/11/2009
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From self:
The "taking of babies from mothers at birth" occurs far more often than realize, often with agreement from mothers, families, courts, with reason baby needs be cared for.
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actually, it's not that common. most likely occurs when the parents have previous children in state care, and they haven't addressed the initial concerns
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My follow up:
Such placements perhaps not common % basis, however numerically they are far more common than most people realize. (stats per state ?)
Many do not involve children now mothers/fathers who were placed into state care, however the % where the new mothers/fathers were in itself is grounds for concern into what docs does..
Most children being assessed are arrangements made by families for new children to be cared for by other relations or friends for various reasons.
BTW this includes all variations of docs involvement - from minute to far more serious.
Each time docs becomes involved we have an "intervention".
Most just file checkups where docs confirms as satisfactory an alternate placement for children of concern.
Such alternate placements are where any child is placed under the care of someone other than the childs birth mother from birth to long past the mothers discharge.
Docs checks circumstances "deemed" satisfactory to docs, if so may check occasionally to ensure things remain ok or to learn child back with birth mother.
Most of this is NOT about the child, rather is about ticking all the boxes so Minister for docs can say they did everything they could to be sure the child was safe and cared for... for as we all know sometimes things do go wrong.
Real failing of government and docs departments has been their inability to arrange methods for families to cooperate and formalize such arrangements without dragged them into and through the courts as criminal offenders.
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By: frenchyjen70
8/11/2009
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A 27-year-old NSW woman has been charged after allegedly taking her new-born baby from a hospital in the state's central west where it had been placed into care.
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in case you don't know what 'placed into care' means, it means the care of the state. |
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By: frenchyjen70
8/11/2009
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Such placements perhaps not common % basis, however numerically they are far more common than most people realize. (stats per state ?)
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will try to find this for you..
Many do not involve children now mothers/fathers who were placed into state care, however the % where the new mothers/fathers were in itself is grounds for concern into what docs does..
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also, i didn't say parents who WERE children in state care, i said parents who have OTHER children already in state care and haven't address the child protection concerns.
although you also raise a valid point, there certainly is plenty of inter-generational involvement with child protection - but just because you were a child in state care does not mean you will automatically have your own child removed! i know of plenty of ex-kids in care that are now doing great jobs as parents :) |
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By: pol_pak
8/11/2009
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Certainly governments and legislatures need adapt our nationwide progams of support to parents and families for children, so these relate to the changed roles and responsibilities we expect now from all adults.
Government and legislatures appear to have decided families are two adults living together, with children coincidental extensions.
Nationally providing availability of more appropriate longer hour child care facilities, from birth through till they finish their schooling, need be considered.
Children may well spend more time in such facilities than with their families.
Government and legislature have done a fair bit to reduce financial needs on mothers to return to work.
Need they do more ?
These are separate issues to "children being taken from mothers"....
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
8/11/2009
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Certainly governments and legislatures need adapt our nationwide progams of support to parents and families for children, so these relate to the changed roles and responsibilities we expect now from all adults.
What governments need is to be made responsible to those who pay to keep them running. All departments are powers unto themselves, instead of being servants they consider themselves little tin gods |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
8/11/2009
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All politicians & bureaucrats that fail to live up to their responsibility to serve the public & who aren't accountable should be fined EXTREMELY heavily, $10,000 for first offense, $250,000 or second offence & jail for life for third offence. See how many of the mugs would mess around then !!!!
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By: weed612001
8/11/2009
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| Pop!!! |
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By: daemoniseme
10/11/2009
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| it happened to my sister with families sa thank god her and my nephews father are fighting it in court, just seems suspect when they don contact the mother before the child is born. |
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