By: peaceleo69
30/09/2009
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September 25, 2009
As the whaling season draws near, Sea Shepherd prepares to return to Antarctica for our 6th Whale Defense Campaign. With a film crew onboard to film the third season of the Animal Planet TV series Whale Wars, we intend to physically intervene in Japan's illegal slaughter of whales. We will be touring Australia in advance of the campaign with our ship, the Steve Irwin, and we invite everyone to show their support to end whaling in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary.
Announcing Whale Defense Campaign Operation Waltzing Matilda
Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is officially returning to the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary for it's 6th Whale Defense Campaign Operation Waltzing Matilda. We are scheduled to depart in early December and intend to shut down illegal whaling in the Antarctic once and for all.
This year, the Steve Irwin will be joined by the fast interceptor vessel Earthrace. Together these ships and the Sea Shepherd crew intend to waltz on down to the Southern Ocean with a bedroll full of tactics and surprises, and we intend to do a dangerous but effective dance with the Japanese whaling fleet to save the lives of as many whales as we possibly can.
The M/Y Steve Irwin, Sea Shepherd's flagship, is due to leave Brisbane the first week of October for a grand tour around Australia, calling in the ports of Sydney, Hobart, and Fremantle.
With preparations for the upcoming Antarctic campaign well underway, this tour gives Sea Shepherd the opportunity to open up to the public and thank Australians for their incredible support since 2005. During its stay in each port, the vessel will be open for tours, from 10am to 5pm daily, providing a chance to have a look around the ship as well as learn first-hand from the crew what it is like to live and work on the most active and effective conservation enforcement vessel in the world. Tours are accessible for all ages, and last, on average, about 40 minutes. |
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By: andreihicks
30/09/2009
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These are nothing more than pirates.
Illegally boarding a ship without the express permission of the captain is piracy.
Two of their idiots climed aboard the Yushin Maru 2 and caused lives to be in danger.
Idiots. |
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By: peaceleo69
30/09/2009
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The crew of the Steve Irwin welcomes you aboard!
http://www.seashepherd.org/australia/
Tour dates:
Sydney – October 5-12 at Circular Quay
Hobart – October 16-22 at Macquarie Wharf
Melbourne - October 23-29 at berth no 3 at North Wharf Rd
Fremantle – November 4 to December 7 at C Berth in Fremantle Port
Sea Shepherd will be returning to the Southern Ocean in December for the 6th Antarctic Whale Defense Campaign Operation Waltzing Matilda, with the aim of intercepting and silencing the harpoons of the pirate whalers.
The Sea Shepherd crew will never retreat from the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary until the word "sanctuary" is understood and honored once and for all.
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anyone know exactly what Peter Garret has acheieved toward this end-after his pre election promises of going hard to stop whaling?
Hot air??!! |
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By: peaceleo69
30/09/2009
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Illegally boarding a ship without the express permission of the captain is piracy.
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Killing whales in a declared sanctuary is also illegal-but Ausatralia has done nothing to stop it so far ,except say they they will seek a political solution.And how much has that achieved??
Please Bambu-no racist antiJapanese rants-just opinions on the legality or otherwise! |
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By: andreihicks
30/09/2009
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Japan is carrying out its whaling operations in declared and recognised international waters.
Those following it have aggressively intervened to the point of causing its vessels to have to swerve violently to avoid collisions in the rough high seas of the Southern Ocean.
I personally am not an advocate of whaling but what the idiots who hassle the Japanese do is nothing short of piracy and incredibly stupid. |
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By: peaceleo69
30/09/2009
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I personally am not an advocate of whaling but what the idiots who hassle the Japanese do is nothing short of piracy and incredibly stupid.
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to be a pirate-you have to apprehend a ship or steal its cargo-Sea Shepherd have done neither ,to the japanese whalers.
It was actually their crew members that were taken captive when they went aboard to deliver a message.
Hassleing a ship-is not piracy.
You may not be an advocate of whaling but you obviously have no problem with it either.
Whereas ,many others do. |
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By: andreihicks
1/10/2009
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Wrong actually.
Boarding a vessel in international waters without the express permission of the Master of the vessel is piracy.
It was illegal.
They have no business boarding a Japanese vessel not even in Australian waters.
They were held captive rightfully so because they were trespassing and should never have been on the ship in the first place.
I cannot, and never will, condone law breaking.
Those guys continually break the law and intervene dangerously with the Japanese who, whether you like it or not, are in international waters and not breaking a single law. |
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By: andreihicks
1/10/2009
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"were taken captive when they went aboard to deliver a message."
Who said they could board the vessel?
Is it ok for you to barge into someone else's house to walk into their lounge to speak to someone without asking?
Think here about what you are saying is ok. |
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By: cybermothra
1/10/2009
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***Boarding a vessel in international waters without the express permission of the Master of the vessel is piracy.
It was illegal.
They have no business boarding a Japanese vessel not even in Australian waters.***
If the Japanese had a leg to stand on directing piracy charges towards the Sea Shepherds .. those charges would already have been laid.
You can bet your bottom dollar ... those charges would have already been laid.
The ONLY reason the charges have not been laid is that the Japanese know full well they would not stick. You can argue legal semantics until the cows come home ... won't get you anywhere. |
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By: cybermothra
1/10/2009
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***Is it ok for you to barge into someone else's house to walk into their lounge to speak to someone without asking?
Think here about what you are saying is ok.***
LOL!
First up .. we are talking about a place of business here, not a private residence .. you silly person. Not an even remotely equatable comparison.
Secondly, this isn't about 'feelings' ... it's about money vs ideals. The Sea Shepherds are out there putting their money where their mouth is. So, i concede, are the Japanese whale butchers. Neither is adhering strictly to all laws, requests, treaties and/or international protocol in the doing so.
I know which side i'm on though.
If you want to hang out the SS for 'piracy' (although nobody else seems capable of doing do' .. why not hang out the Japanese butchers for ramming other vessels in open waters? Or refusing to acknowledge Australian waters? Declared whale sanctuary and all?
Selective jurisprudence much? |
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By: cybermothra
1/10/2009
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And .... just for clarification ....
The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea defines piracy as:
(This is an excerpt from Section VII titled "High Seas")
Article 101 Definition of piracy
http://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention_agreements/ texts/unclos/part7.htm
Piracy consists of any of the following acts:
(a) any illegal acts of violence or detention, or any act of depredation, committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or a private aircraft, and directed:
(i) on the high seas, against another ship or aircraft, or against persons or property on board such ship or aircraft;
(ii) against a ship, aircraft, persons or property in a place outside the jurisdiction of any State;
(b) any act of voluntary participation in the operation of a ship or of an aircraft with knowledge of facts making it a pirate ship or aircraft;
(c) any act of inciting or of intentionally facilitating an act described in subparagraph (a) or (b).
Seems the lawyers available to the Japanese whalers aren't good enough to make a case in light of the above. |
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By: cybermothra
1/10/2009
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Aaaaaaand ... even IF the Sea Shepherds were in absolute defiance and contradiction of the law ... i would STILL be 100% behind them.
Sometimes the law needs to be broken before it can be fixed. |
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By: andreihicks
1/10/2009
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I re-iterate - two personnel from that vessel boarded the Yushin Maru 2 illegally and without permission from the Japanese Master.
You condone boarding vessels in international waters?
What were they doing on the whaling ship?
They raced up to it on a boarding craft, climbed over the side and boarded (in international waters) the Yushin Maru 2.
They had no business being on there and if you think it is acceptable for that, then you condone illegal actions.
I would remind that throughout the period of time it was at sea - at no point did the Yushin Maru 2 enter Australian waters - which I remind you extend for 12 miles from the coast.
Australian cannot claim international waters for any exclusion zone.
Don't condone illegal acts. It puts you on the side of extremists. |
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By: buzzanddidj
1/10/2009
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'Two of their idiots climed aboard the Yushin Maru 2 and caused lives to be in danger'
And the Japanese pursued this in the International Court ?
NO
Why not ?
You've had this juvenile rant before
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By: andreihicks
1/10/2009
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Lets just re-iterate the sort of people you are defending.....
SYDNEY, Feb 6 (Reuters) - An anti-whaling protest ship and a Japanese whaling vessel collided in the Southern Ocean on Friday as the Japanese tried to haul a dead whale on board, and the incident prompted a sharp rebuke from Tokyo.
"It is an act of violence and it is unforgiveable," said Shigeki Takaya, an assistant director of the Far Seas Fisheries Division at Japan's fisheries ministry.
Tokyo said the incident followed a series of protest activities a day earlier by the anti-whaling group, which it said threw bottles of acid at the Japanese ships and ropes into the water to tangle up the ships' propellers.
The Steve Irwin was continuing to tail the Nisshin Maru to prevent whales being hauled on board.
The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society has been blamed for collisions with the Japanese Antarctic whaling fleet in recent years, as well as high-seas boardings and stink bomb attacks.
Its confrontational tactics have been widely criticised both by pro-whaling groups and fellow environmentalists, although it has also attracted high-profile supporters.
Both the Australian and New Zealand governments oppose the Japanese whale hunt, but have called on whalers and anti-whalers to remain peaceful in the dangerous Southern Ocean. |
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By: andreihicks
1/10/2009
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And the Japanese pursued this in the International Court ?
NO
Let's just get this straight Buzz.
You support -
+ The boarding of a Japanese vessel by civilians.
+ In international waters
+ Without the permission of the Japanese Master
There's nothing wrong with that? |
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By: andreihicks
2/10/2009
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"Why not ?"
Because the Japanese are realists and by putting this into international court would be giving these idiots exactly what they want.
It wouldn't be about the boarding incident - which the Japanese would legally win in the International Court - but a lot of media attention around the world would focus on the whaling issue itself.
At a time when Japan is working with Iceland to influence non-whaling nations at the IWC, it is not media attention that would help.
The Japanese are legally in the right here.
However the cost is too great for what would be a slam-dunk technical legal win on piracy grounds.
You cannot board a vessel in international waters without the Master's permission. That is a fact. |
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By: peaceleo69
2/10/2009
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your support and defence of the Japanese whaling fleet is admirable andre!
Should get you some brownie points; if you ever want to visit there or start up a whaleburger franchise.
As cyber pointed out-sometimes, rules have to get broken ;if they support bad practices.
Sometimes brave people risk their lives to stand up for the defenceless;who cant stand up for themselves.
You support the whaling-your choice-but don't try and cover it up with legality.
Just be honest about it. |
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By: andreihicks
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I don't support whaling.
Just because I support the rule of law on the high seas does not mean I support the actions of whaling.
Whether you like it or not, the Japanese are NOT breaking any laws in international waters.
Do you deny that those two civilians broke the law when they boarded the Japanese whaling ship?
Why were they there?
They were not invited. They were not welcome. |
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By: alert_monkey
2/10/2009
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| Considering a few years ago a South American fishing vessel was chased for illegal fishing of Patagonian Tooth Fish in protected waters, and all the promises made by our now environment minister pre-election, I think its a travesty that the Japanese continue to get away with this. Just shows that there is very little that is sacred to our politicians and legislators anymore. |
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By: gizmo_2655
2/10/2009
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"+ The boarding of a Japanese vessel by civilians.
+ In international waters
+ Without the permission of the Japanese Master
There's nothing wrong with that?"
No not really, after all the Sea Shepard guys had been calling by radio for over an hour with no response.
Perhaps they went to check if the japanese ship needed assistance, as their (Japanese) radio was apparently not working.... |
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By: andreihicks
3/10/2009
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So you support the illegal boarding of a vessel in international waters?
That is piracy. It is NOT acceptable. |
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By: peaceleo69
4/10/2009
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You worry about a legality-while others here worry about the slaughter of thousands of defenceless mammals ;that the majority of the planets citizens wish to protect; after they had been driven to the edge of extinction ,after a couple of decades of ruthless harvesting.
We differ in what we think is important in this world.
The majority of people did not want the invasion of Afghistan and Iraq-but still leaders of countries invaded it, because they believed they had a right to.
Sea Sheperd believes they have a right to protect defenceless animals, from what they consider illegal slaughter.
Sometimes; ideologies override legalities- till legalities change, to reflect the majority opinions .
Hopefully; this will happen very soon.
If it wasn't for the efforts of the brave souls on Sea Shepherd; whales would again be heading for extinction -after their numbers had been slowly increasing, because the majority of the worlds powers; who once whaled ; had ceased to do so in the interest, of the better good ; by preserving these unique creatures.
Paul Watson believes in what he is doing and he is willing to lay his life down for that belief.
He isnt interested in letting legalities get in the way ,because; while leaders such as Garret procastinate-whales die needlessly; by explosive Japanese harpoons; for the glory of an ageing class in Japan ,who wont let go of their priveleged postion and to the detriment of the Japanese fiscal system, that subsidises them. |
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By: peaceleo69
4/10/2009
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Whether you like it or not, the Japanese are NOT breaking any laws in international waters
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How do you know this??
As no one is monitoring what they aree doing-there is no way of gauranteeing they are not killing whales within territorial waters.
Also; apart from thier say so-there is no gaurantee ;how many whales are actually killed and of what species.
Knowing ;it has been proven ;that rare species that are supposed to be protected - even by the Japanese-have actually ended up for sale in the markets, after their research has been carried out.
Testing has shown that Blue Whale meat has been sold under the guise of less protected species.
On their next trip they plan to catch endangered Finn whlaes.Along with Minke whales and Humpbacks!The same ones; who trust humans; as they ply our coasts-will be the next easy target; as they migrate with full heavy bellies of baby calves -northward ;to give birth in our warmer waters.
Or return with their slow young ;to the rich fishing waters around the Antarctic shelf.
Female whales make easy targets; as they try to protect their young and swim in schools to protect against predators ;while males are more likely to be singlular and harder to chase and catch.
The Japanese do not differentiate against the age of whales-they are quite happy to catch young ones or old ones; as it helps in their research ,to discover how old they are!!!!!
A process, easy and non deadly these days; with only a small flesh sample taken ,with a sampling device.No need to kill a whale ;to take their ear plug, just to find out how old they are! |
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By: gizmo_2655
4/10/2009
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"So you support the illegal boarding of a vessel in international waters?
That is piracy. It is NOT acceptable."
No it was not piracy.
"Maritime piracy, according to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) of 1982, consists of any criminal acts of violence, detention, or depredation committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or aircraft that is directed on the high seas against another ship, aircraft, or against persons or property on board a ship or aircraft. Piracy can also be committed against a ship, aircraft, persons, or property in a place outside the jurisdiction of any state, in fact piracy has been the first example of universal jurisdiction. Nevertheless today the international community is facing many problems in bringing pirates to justice."
Merely boarding a vessel is NOT piracy, especially in this case, as the 2 people who boarded the vessel were attempting to deliver a communication to the Captain. They had attempted radio contact but it was unsuccessful.
The actions of the crew of the Japanese whaler in physically restraining the Sea Sheperd crew men and holding them against their will, on the other hand, DO fit the definitions of piracy....
"any criminal acts of violence, detention,"...... |
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