By: aszure4ever
6/07/2009
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Dallone, Michaels, mom is no doddering old lady, and, she has had LOADS of experience in raising teens, no?
And, with all the extended family to help...well, and not to mention all that money- any kind of 'help' could be hired.
I only worry about Joe Jackson being a part of it. I think that is why Debbie wants the children- because it was michael's worst horror that he lived with- the memories of the treatment from his father.
After watching the interview with Jermaine Jackson on TV today (what a sweet man!), I think the kids would be in great hands with him and his wife.
Jermaine even talks like Michael- so quietly, gently, and with great sensitivity.
It's beyond me why ordinary people speak so nastily about famous people - just assuming the very worst of human motivations to them. I can only assume its because THEY are like that in their own hearts. |
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By: peaceleo69
7/07/2009
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azure ;apparently Kathleen Jackson has been sepperated from her husband for 10 years and there is talk of the nanny that helped bring the children up ;Rwaramba (42)and who only left Michaels employ last year-may actually help raise them.
another quote from the Sunday Times:
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"Prince was preparing to perform a duet with Jackson during the much anticipated comeback tour (Looks like he was about to introduce his children to the world; now they were growing up)
Jackson's friend Mark Lester claims the star loved nothing more than showering his children with toys, playing board games with them and taking them to museums.
"They were a tight family and were always together" Lester said.
Jackson's stylist Rushka Bergman said, "He was the best father on the planet."
(Cant get much higher praise than that!Poor kids!)
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was from a very good article last week ;from Carly Crawford (What life was like for the lost children of Neverland)-who seems to have been following the story from LA -but I cant seem to find it on the net. |
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By: dallone.ranger
7/07/2009
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There weren't many, or any, photos of his kids to be seen anywhere. Clearly they didn't go to a normal school or duck down to the shops occasionally. Seems they have been closeted away by the Jackson's from day one. This is not normal, although I understand similar things happen to very rich or high profile people.
Just heard on the news that his mother has been removed as temp guardian, think they said the kids have gone to Diana Ross now.
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By: jennydaydreams
7/07/2009
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We have been told the kids have had NO schooling,the older boy has bleached hair in many photos.These kids have been raised in a VERY strange way e.g always with their faces covered in public,no contact with their "biological mothers".And who calls their child blanket especially after dangling him over a balcony rail??
I can only hope that whoever takes over their guardianship has THE CHILDRENS best interests as a TOP priority e.g allow them to be schooled,socialise without their faces covered.Let them behave as NORMAL kids for a change NOT freaks!! |
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By: dallone.ranger
7/07/2009
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Sorry, my mistake, his mother was removed as administrator of his estate.
I think she still has the kids though. |
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By: whywhy_huh1
7/07/2009
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| I'll bet thousands of dollars they will speak fondly of their father though...we have been told?..told by whom?..another rag mag?...no wonder these magazines flourish...the mother of the kids was a surrogate and surrogacy happens all over the world....she made it clear she didn't want to raise the kids...so far the only honest thing i've read from the vultures who print their daily crap...how MJ or his family bring up the kids is their business...i'm sure if someone came banging on my door wanting to know about my child, i'd tell them where to get off.... |
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By: shir2lou
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Apparently they are very well behaved children and speak two foreign languages. They have had little contact with other children, having been home schooled
That is what I have read.....who knows how true it all is anyway. |
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By: melissagems
7/07/2009
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caught some family videos somewhere today
they seemed very cute and quite normal.
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By: dallone.ranger
7/07/2009
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| Walking around and talking may well be cute and seemingly normal, however being raised by Michael, and without a mother, is far from normal. In any language. |
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By: peaceleo69
7/07/2009
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FFS-the kids had a devoted nanny. Many kids , in all walks of life and for many reasons ,in the world ;have nannies to help raise them-goes back centuries!!
They had a loving Grandmother-who helped. Many kids get raised by their grandparents-nothing new!
Both substitutes; better than bad parents!
Biology-highly overated; as Michaels father proves!! |
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By: shalemac
7/07/2009
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well I think michaels mum getting the kids is a bit crazy. At her age she may not be around for long and that is all the kids to need another person caring for them to die.
I think the poor kids will be pretty messed up no matter where they go with their upbringing. They have never had a normal life at all. |
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By: peaceleo69
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We have been told the kids have had NO schooling,the older boy has bleached hair in many photos.These kids have been raised in a VERY strange way e.g always with their faces covered in public,no contact with their "biological mothers".And who calls their child blanket especially after dangling him over a balcony rail??
I can only hope that whoever takes over their guardianship has THE CHILDRENS best interests as a TOP priority e.g allow them to be schooled,socialise without their faces covered.Let them behave as NORMAL kids for a change NOT freaks!!
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They were HOME SCHOOLED-still classed as schooling!
It may come as a great surprise to you to know ;that many children in Australia are home schooled.And grow up quite normally-and often have a great advantage, as far as academic achievemnts are concerned.
There have also been many children over the last 200 plus years; who live on stations and have been home schooled ,by School of the Air-they also dont socialise -as too far away but still grew/grow up NORMAL.
Not freaks!
It was the BIOLOGICAL mother Debbie; who inisted their faces be covered-to stop some elements from taking advantage of them; like paparrazzi or kidnappers-or worse!
Sad; you obviously never had baby names for your kids-I did ; for all mine and know many others who did-I think 'blanket' is cute!
The 'biological' mother wasnt interested in contact-she got 12 million, out of her settlement too; when they were divorced!
Many kids never have contact with biological mothers-children have been adopted over centuries-children were sent out to Australia away from their mothers-aboriginal children were taken from their mothers-unwed mothers had their babies removed.Many still grew up in loving families with a mother and father.
Biology -highly overrated;most assaults of children occur in biological homes!Michael Jacksons Dad -a prime example of overrated biology;wouldnt even let Michael call him Daddy-insisted on Joe! |
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By: peaceleo69
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Michael said in hindsite-maybe he should not have held his baby up for fans to see;like any devoted father.
But he said; he held onto him so sightly for the couple of seconds he flashed him ,for them to see-there was no way he would have let go; unlike parents he has seen ;who throw babies up in the air and catch them.
The little boy did NOT have bleached hair; it was blonde-like many little Aussie boys.
All mine started off with white hair to blonde; as babies and by the time they were 12 ;it was aussie blonde/mousey-and by the time they were grown-it was dark brown to almost black.
Michaels children seem the same-the little girl has quite dark hair now.
And I am sure ;whoever looks after his grieving children ;will have their best interests at heart-as he always did.
To watch that little boy-run to his Daddy Micheal; with arms outstretched and hug him saying-"Daddy Daddy -you are the bestest Daddy in the whole wide world; said it all!
Poor kiddies; to lose their loving Daddy, so young! |
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By: peaceleo69
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well I think michaels mum getting the kids is a bit crazy. At her age she may not be around for long and that is all the kids to need another person caring for them to die.
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shale-their nanny-who is one of those lsited as possible substitutes in Michaels will-is only 42! |
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By: peaceleo69
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http://au.messages.yahoo.com/news/general-discussi on/734219?p=8
This is a tiny part of one of Michae
I wonder how many who are criicisng him-would have thero wls beautiful speeches-posted by why why huh ;in her tribute thread.
It says heaps.
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But now I am a father myself, and one day I was thinking about my own children, Prince and Paris and how I wanted them to think of me when they grow up. To be sure, I would like them to remember how I always wanted them with me wherever I went, how I always tried to put them before everything else. But there are also challenges in their lives. Because my kids are stalked by paparazzi, they can't always go to a park or a movie with me.
So what if they grow older and resent me, and how my choices impacted their youth? Why weren't we given an average childhood like all the other kids, they might ask? And at that moment I pray that my children will give me the benefit of the doubt. That they will say to themselves: "Our daddy did the best he could, given the unique circumstances that he faced. He may not have been perfect, but he was a warm and decent man, who tried to give us all the love in the world."
I hope that they will always focus on the positive things, on the sacrifices I willingly made for them, and not criticise the things they had to give up, or the errors I've made, and will certainly continue to make, in raising them. For we have all been someone's child, and we know that despite the very best of plans and efforts, mistakes will always occur. That's just being human.
And when I think about this, of how I hope that my children will not judge me unkindly, and will forgive my shortcomings, I am forced to think of my own father and despite my earlier denials, I am forced to admit that me must have loved me. He did love me, and I know that.......
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For those who have never REALLY read Michaels thoughts-just the press sensation;read it and BE informed-it is profound and beautiful. |
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By: peaceleo69
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correction:
This is a tiny part of one of Michael's beautiful speeches posted in her tribute thread.
I wonder how many who are criticing him here; would have their children think of them like this??
It says heaps!! |
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| Australia is sooooo far away..:) |
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By: dallone.ranger
8/07/2009
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Leo, I am quite sure the nanny could do a credible job in raising the kids. If she has had her own that is, and has a track record in this area, otherwise she is just a learner, like any new parent is. Like Debbie would be.
On Debbie, I don't believe it would have been her who insisted the kids faces be covered, especially if as you say she wasn't interested in them. That sounds very Michael, who had done so for years himself.
"The 'biological' mother wasnt interested in contact-she got 12 million, out of her settlement too; when they were divorced!"
I expect she had no say in the no contact clause, Michael clearly wanted her to have some kids for him then get out permanently.
Michael only married her so she could have children for him. I am sure he never had any intention of her continuing in his, and the children's lives, after he had finished using her for that purpose. For goodness sake, he didn't even have sex with her to make the children his, but used someone else's sperm. They have no biological connection to him whatsoever. What sort of father would not even use his own sperm to make children for himself.
And lets not forget his million dollar payout to the the parents of the little boy. Other peoples children seem to be his penchant. I wonder how much about Michael's life his kids know about.
I still hope they are removed from the Neverland scene and placed with Debbie, their real mother. Like you said before about kids having nannies, she would no doubt have them also. Experienced ones no doubt. And forget home schooling unless its absolutely necessary, like in the examples you gave, the kids WILL do better mixing with other kids their own age. That way they will learn about their father, warts and all, and learn to cope with it. |
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By: busybee6461
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| I just watched his daughter Paris on Television at his Memorial and it was heartbreaking to watch..what a brave little girl..Breaking her heart as she spoke of her dad as the best daddy ever.. |
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By: dallone.ranger
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I'm sure it was heartbreaking for her to speak about Michael.
However I would question by what standard they judge Michael the be a great dad. After all what would they know about great dads? |
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