By: danaschuppert
21/10/2008
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And now we understand how Hitler got almost an entire country to believe his propaganda/lies. For some reason, though, I really thought most Americans were smart enough not to believe the propaganda.
Has anyone ever read about propaganda? The elite are even fooled by it. One of Hitler's all-time favorite propaganda tactics was make up a story, mix in some truth with the lies, then spread it as long and as often as possible and almost everyone will believe it sooner or later. The crazier the story, the more people will believe it's true. This is what happens when the other side ignores the crazy conspiracy theories.
Almost every single conspiracy theory has been debunked, but this is not what most of us see over & over, unfortunately. They had a great show on this not long ago on the history channel, which made the conspiracy theorists look like pure idiots. Conspiracy theories are rarely true. Mainly, because there has to be so many ppl involved in them & any time you get over 4 or 5 ppl involved in something like 9/11/01, someone is going to talk. There would have had to have been 100s involved & there is no way no one would have said a word about it.
Anyone who would spend any time whatsoever on infowars, is a total nutcase. |
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By: danaschuppert
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"look at the stats borg!
america and the world is waking up to zionist/globalist
agenda...it wont be long till all the criminals are locked
up for killing those people on 9/11 and invadeing iraq
for their oil and genocide of 1 million iraqi people."
It says Americans think the govt is hiding something about 9/11. It doesn't say that many believe they did it. I'm sure the govt is hiding things about 9/11 but they were not involved in it. You, obviously, spend 2 much time on insane web sites like infowars. That is 1 of the craziest web sites on the Internet. Thank goodness most ppl laugh at it & go on.
Ppl rarely get away with murder in the free world. There is no way our govt would ever get by with doing something like 9/11...especially this govt, considering it's a fact that almost every1 is against this govt. Democrats, journalists, etc, would have already came out with it. Also, every major country in the world would have already came out with it b/c they had just as much proof as we did that it was the Muslim terrorists/ extremists who committed these murders. Plus, if any of these insane conspiracy theories could possibly be true, we would C literally 1000s of professionals who R qualified 2 say 9/11 could not have possibly happened as the original story claims coming out & saying so.
These R only a few simple commonsense reasons the 9/11 conspiracy theorists R nothing but nutcases. No govts in the free world could possibly ever cover something this major up & get by with it. It isn't possible. Literally 1000s would have had 2 have been involved in a coverup such as this & there is no way that many ppl would not have said 1 thing about something like this happening.
I can C countries like Russia & in the ME believing this type of BS. They R used 2 their govts hiding things & getting away with it. They live off of conspiracy theories b/c they have no freedom of the press. It could never happen here. They would have long been caught. |
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By: bill_crany1
21/10/2008
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| wellwe all know debunkers counter the testimony of others to raise doubts about possible intrigue like the inside job of 9/11. But you know its not that far out unfortunately our recent history is flowing with rivers of blood and we cant afford not to be vigilant. A lot of people in the states have questions about why there are hundreds of FEMA concentration camps around the US and also why FEMA has over 500,000 coffins stored in fields in the state of Georgia. Real questions that you would like an accounting of. Would the corrupt elete resort to rounding up and killing citizens if they felt fearful of the growing awakening of corruption in the country.//Honestly - yes i know it in my heart they are capable of it because I myself have been tortured. |
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By: danaschuppert
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"mr biggins. if i may :-) ask a question, what convinces you so to believe that the US government are so innocent and could never be involved with anything that some have pointed out on these threads? what makes you so convinced that there is not a much bigger agenda amongst these elites. Is one really to believe that who is is government give a damn about us ordinary people? what is your opinion?"
I don't think that's what anyone is saying here. I think any govt is capable of doing almost anything. However, in the free world, govts cannot possibly get away with doing anything like 9/11. People forget that many other countries had evidence that 9/11 was carried out by Muslim terrorists, too, and/or had to see the evidence we have before they would go into Afghanistan with us, not to mention a whole host of other simple commonsense reasons 9/11 could not have possibly been pulled off by any govt in the free world. Think! |
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By: bill_crany1
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i can only say I am erring on the side of pessimism and caution. All of the signs I see are not good, they show a system in place contemptuous of human dignity. I was tortured for five years and the government covered it up with the privacy act. So i see a growing concern and awakening spreading by the power of the Internet about the behavior of the elites, I see a world moving into a deep financial crises. I could see the corporate elites going over the edge if they fear for themselves at the hands of justice. My trust in the system is zero, I cant get over watching a clip on youtube of a CNN report prematurely announcing the collapse of WTC building 7 when the building was still clearly standing in the background behind the reporter.
It is surreal, if you are intelligent you will realize these are days of distress and we all need to be vigilant and eyes wide open - trust no one unless they have earned that trust. |
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By: bubyshka
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"ergo 84% of russians are stupid."
Well those poor russians, i really couldn't have said it better myself.
Really the people are misinformed, the poli's are really backward there, how can you take any notice.
If it weren't for their system there, Maybe the people would have half a chance.
but as it stand in this day and age. Poor buggers haven't got a hope!!
Yes i'm sure they are waiting to see if america makes a boo boo, and they will tan their hiny if they make a slip up its for sure. In that respect they would act quickly.
My opinion they aren't to be trusted. Maybe they even helped in 9/11.. who knows?
WE Wait ...and learn.... !!! |
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By: bill_crany1
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| the thing is in America their most gifted people are standing up saying 9/11 was an inside job, thats what makes the inside Job allegation such a compelling one now. 9/11 was a grand television illusion and we were all conned. |
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By: nessa_sarily_so
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| Those aren't gifted people Bill they are lunatics. |
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By: bill_crany1
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| a lot of people died that day - but what we saw was largely illusion smoke and mirrors. This was an act of state terror and an inside job. |
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By: bill_crany1
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| what is impressive is the photographs taken of the 9/11 attacks...fabulous opportune photos that pro's only dream of getting... |
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By: bill_crany1
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| nobody can release any footage of a plane hitting the pentagon only what appears to me to be a missile. |
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By: blackasthe_ace
22/10/2008
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Ppl rarely get away with murder in the free world. There is no way our govt would ever get by with doing something like 9/11...especially this govt, considering it's a fact that almost every1 is against this govt. Democrats, journalists, etc, would have already came out with it. Also, every major country in the world would have already came out with it b/c they had just as much proof as we did that it was the Muslim terrorists/ extremists who committed these murders. Plus, if any of these insane conspiracy theories could possibly be true, we would C literally 1000s of professionals who R qualified 2 say 9/11 could not have possibly happened as the original story claims coming out & saying so.
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so your rebuttal dana is that its just "impossible".
thats an weak arguement unfunded with fact or evidence.
and there are literally 1000s of professionals that reject
the official story..pilots,structural engineers,police,
just about all of the NYFD,lawyers,doctors,poli ticians,
heads of state in other countries as well.. |
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By: blackasthe_ace
22/10/2008
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A monumental new scientific opinion poll has emerged which declares that only 16% of people in America now believe the official government explanation of the September 11th 2001 terror attacks.
According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks:
"Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?
Telling the truth 16%
Hiding something 53%
Mostly lying 28%
Not sure 3%"
The 84% figure mirrors other recent polls on the same issue. A Canadian Poll put the figure at 85%. A CNN poll had the figure at 89%. Over 80% supported the stance of Charlie Sheen when he went public with his opinions on 9/11 as an inside job.
A recent CNN poll found that the percentage of Americans who blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington rose from almost a third to almost half over the past four years. This latest poll shows that that figure has again risen exponentially and now stands at well over three quarters of the population. |
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By: blackasthe_ace
22/10/2008
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Veterans for 9/11 Truth News Features
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Sunday, May 11, 2008
Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story
Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story Only 16% now believe official fable according to New York Times/CBS News poll Truth Movement has the huge majority of opinion How will the Bush Cabal react?
Steve Watson & Alex Jones / Prisonplanet.com October 14 2006 A monumental new scientific opinion poll has emerged which declares that only 16% of people in America now believe the official government explanation of the September 11th 2001 terror attacks.
According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks:
"Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?
Telling the truth 16%
Hiding something 53%
Mostly lying 28%
Not sure 3%" |
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By: blackasthe_ace
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The 84% figure mirrors other recent polls on the same issue. A Canadian Poll put the figure at 85%. A CNN poll had the figure at 89%. Over 80% supported the stance of Charlie Sheen when he went public with his opinions on 9/11 as an inside job.
A recent CNN poll found that the percentage of Americans who blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington rose from almost a third to almost half over the past four years. This latest poll shows that that figure has again risen exponentially and now stands at well over three quarters of the population.
It took 35 plus years for the majority of Americans to wake up to the fact that the assassination of JFK was a government operation. It has only take five years for MORE Americans to wake up to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job on behalf of the Neoconservative crime syndicate within the US.
Reference to past polls show that in the last five years there has been an explosion in numbers of those who do not buy the official line.
In 2004 a Zogby Poll showed that just over half of New Yorkers believed there was a cover up.
In May of this year another Zogby pol l indicated that around half of ALL Americans did not buy the official story.
The latest poll also shows a massive awakening has occurred recently given that previous estimates indicated that around 34% still believed the official story and around 30% were oblivious altogether .
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By: blackasthe_ace
22/10/2008
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va& aid=10145
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much evidence compared to your robotic compliance and
doubt that so many could be involved. |
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By: blackasthe_ace
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| (4) US Solicitor General Ted Olson's claim that his wife, Barbara Olson, phoned him twice from AA 77, reporting that hijackers had taken it over, was also contradicted by this FBI report, which says that the only call attempted by her was "unconnected" and hence lasted "0 seconds" (NPRH 60-62). |
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(7) In addition to the absence of evidence for hijackers on the planes, there is also evidence of their absence: If hijackers had broken into the *** pits, the pilots would have "squawked" the universal hijack code, an act that takes only a couple of seconds. But not one of the eight pilots on the four airliners did this (NPHR 175-79).
(8) Given standard operating procedures between the FAA and the military, according to which planes showing signs of an in-flight emergency are normally intercepted within about 10 minutes, the military's failure to intercept any of the flights implies that something, such as a stand-down order, prevented standard procedures from being carried out (NPHR 1-10, 81-84).
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(9) Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta reported an episode in which Vice President Cheney, while in the bunker under the White House, apparently confirmed a stand-down order at about 9:25 AM, which was prior to the strike on the Pentagon. Another man has reported hearing members of LAX Security learn that a stand-down order had come from the "highest level of the White House" (NPHR 94-96).
(10) The 9/11 Commission did not mention Mineta's report, removed it from the Commission's video record of its hearings, and claimed that Cheney did not enter the shelter conference room until almost 10:00, which was at least 40 minutes later than he was really there, according to Mineta and several other witnesses, including Cheney's photographer (NPHR 91-94). |
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By: shan98_2000
22/10/2008
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Remember this a large number of russian believe that things were better under Stalin and that includes Russians that were born long after his death.
So go figure |
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By: bill_crany1
22/10/2008
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| Building 7 remains the inescapable nemesis for the official version events. Professional demolition experts confirm it was a controlled implosion. WTC owner Larry Silverstein frankly admitted to having demolished wtc building 7 saying he made the decision to "Pull it". |
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By: new_horizens
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| 84% of Russians believe James Bond was real. So what does that prove? |
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By: wtf_gf
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If its een true that 84% of russians think that, and I dont for one momment actually think its accurate, you dont think the Russians have something to gain by syaing and promoting it?
I mean the war in Iraq is goin so well and America is such a peaceful an outgoing country and none of its leaders have made inflamatory statements towards the Russians. Whoops, stupid Sarah Palin has made a incredible lot of ignorant and inflamatory statemsnt.
Amercian being so disorganised and unstructured couldnt have done 9/11, its too complex for them, just look how they handled anything else. You need to face the grim reality it was terrorits from alquida hat did it and there is proof if you want to see it.
It does not mean the war is right or was done for the right reason and there was massive mismanagement in the handling and subsiquent efforts but it does not equiate to America doing 9/11 no matter how you look at it |
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By: wtf_gf
22/10/2008
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| i mean you can get a group of people to agree on people from martians or pluto if you get the right group and the right question. These opionion polls are always rigged for a start. |
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By: kratos500027
22/10/2008
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"Amercian being so disorganised and unstructured couldnt have done 9/11, its too complex for them, just look how they handled anything else. You need to face the grim reality it was terrorits from alquida hat did it and there is proof if you want to see it"
Your reasoning leaves a lot to be desired. It's too complex for the US government, who have been undertaking black ops for decades, but it can be done by a ragtag bunch of islamic extremists living in caves in afghanistan? Does that sum up your position? |
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By: wtf_gf
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| no, as i said ther is overwhelming evidence to show it wasn't but ou will not belive it no matter what. The Americans haven't managed to organise much else right, no way they could have organised 9/11. Being dissatisfied with the war, which we all are and completely fed up with it desn't equate to them doing 9/11. I know you want to belive in conspiracies and will no matter what evidence is persented to you though but the horrible fact is that it was alquida and means that a powerful country like America can be brought to its knees means we are all vunerable and at risk which is why I think many dont want or refuse to belive because it means we aer at risk and very little we can do about it. |
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