By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:07 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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"US has many warheads, more in fact, always has, always will. Thats how nature intended things."
I really dislike that sentiment.
The US "do as I say, not as I do, coz I have all the nukes" attitude doesn't impress me at all.
Neither do those same sentiments from any Australian citizen.
Maybe if the US cleaned up its foreign policies, the world wouldn't be perpetually on the brink of World War III.
Anyone who glorifies war, in my opinion, has rocks in their head.
NOBODY wins a nuclear war.
We should all be wanting diffusion, not escalation, of the US vs the rest of the world hostilities.
What planet do you people live on? |
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By: ripfelix 19/09/2008 11:08 pm Yahoo! Profile: ripfelix Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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"Arent you a bit bothered by the idea of plagiarism?"
Only if I had a desire to write a fantasy book for a 4 year old. |
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By: longweekend58 19/09/2008 11:10 pm Yahoo! Profile: longweekend58 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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<The official 9/11 report says that the Muslim hijackers had taken flying lessons at an air school in ?Florida. The instructor said they were very poor students and very poor pilots>
the only truly hard part of flying is landing which as we know was never an issue.
get yourself a MS FlightSim, disable all the easy helps and fly a 747 yoruself. it is extremely accurate to the extent that the US navy used the program to help trian its pilots. flying a 747 into these buildings is hard but not that hard. they werent haveing dogflights or performing difficult manoevures plus they had had actual flight training.
it is not at all hard to beleive they did it. |
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By: ripfelix 19/09/2008 11:10 pm Yahoo! Profile: ripfelix Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Whoru, I'm not sure whether he was having a go at you or me. |
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By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:12 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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"the fact it wasnt carried out is no small issue. there is a world of difference in planning an atrocity knowing it more than likely would never happen than actually planning and executing one. the moral difference is HUGE. to even equate the two is absurd."
READ the report. They FULLY intended it to happen. So where does their moral fortitude lay?
Furthermore... if you wish to speak of moral fortitude, I have 2 words for you......
HIROSHIMA
NAGASAKI
We're not talking about people with morals or ethics here.
The Americans are unapologetic about such atrocities. Their government doesn't care about people. It cares about its own agenda. Civilian casualties are considered "collateral damage". Who would even refer to the death of innocent bystanders as "collateral damage" if they had any moral fortitude.
I just don't think you can see the forest for the trees.
Anyway... this discussion is pointless and it's late. So I'll stop flogging a dead horse and go do something more productive..... like sleep. |
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By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:13 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Seriously though, if you aren't prepared to question your own government and those of your allies, then you truly deserve the world you're helping to create.
Frankly, however, I deserve better. |
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By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:15 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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"get yourself a MS FlightSim, disable all the easy helps and fly a 747 yoruself."
ROFPMSL!! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
Yeah right. Just coz I can fly a simulator, I can execute aerial acrobats that a 747 isn't physically capable of performing and fly a jumbo, at ground level, into a given target.
Rightio! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks for the laugh ;-) |
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By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:15 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Goodnight. |
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By: longweekend58 19/09/2008 11:16 pm Yahoo! Profile: longweekend58 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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<Maybe if the US cleaned up its foreign policies, the world wouldn't be perpetually on the brink of World War III.
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methinks u forgot soviet russia and its many peacful activities around the world. and it looks like their peaceful activities are back again eg georgia. |
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By: pathogan70 19/09/2008 11:16 pm Yahoo! Profile: pathogan70 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I love the allegations of drug abuse, I am subject to random testing in my job so I cant even have a choof...
I also love statements like "I have read the evidence/proof/facts"... yeah, on wikipedia or something.
And ditto the elbow patch brigade- we should diffuse nuclear weapons... yeah maybe after Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Isreal, Iran, Egypt etc... They are actually a good deterrant, as evidenced by the kerfuffle about missile defense systems.
So change the water in your implement. |
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By: longweekend58 19/09/2008 11:18 pm Yahoo! Profile: longweekend58 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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<Yeah right. Just coz I can fly a simulator, I can execute aerial acrobats that a 747 isn't physically capable of performing and fly a jumbo, at ground level, into a given target.>
it was a 767 and it did nothgin a 767 cant normally do. there were no acrobatics, just the kind of flying you wouldnt normally get on a domestic aircraft route.
try it yourself and set the simulator so that the aircraft WONT do what it cannot do in real life (eg acrobatics). it just aint as hard as you want to think it is. |
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By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:21 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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"I love the allegations of drug abuse"
From me?
You're imagining things.
What planet do you live on refers to Planet Earth and the fact that we're destroying it and hell bent on blowing each other up. We're all Earthlings. It's time we acted like it.
My reference was meant to imply that you must live on another planet if you think you will be spared the repercussions of a nuclear war.
NOBODY wins.
The US has the strength and the ability to lead by example.
It isn't good enough to say "Oh well Russia or China or Pakistan are doing bad stuff too".
We are not responsible for anyone's behaviour but our own.
Unless our own behaviour is impeccable, we can NOT be telling other nations how to conduct themselves.
Anyhoo... I said goodnight. |
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By: ripfelix 19/09/2008 11:22 pm Yahoo! Profile: ripfelix Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Damned, in the absence of other conflicting hard evidence, I shall have to believe the official version.
I stood on the site and talked to people who where there on the day in both official and non official capacities, and to a person they did not doubt the facts. |
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By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:23 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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". it just aint as hard as you want to think it is"
It also ain't as easy as you propose. (Have you ever done it? My father is a pilot and I've had discussions with him on this matter). Especially not the Pentagon scenario. It just couldn't have happened the way they say it did. |
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By: ripfelix 19/09/2008 11:24 pm Yahoo! Profile: ripfelix Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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"The US has the strength and the ability to lead by example."
Everybody hold hands, form a circle and sing "coombya" |
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By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:25 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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"I stood on the site and talked to people who where there on the day in both official and non official capacities"
They can only tell you what happened. They can't tell you who did it.
And the official version has great gaping holes in it.
Excuse me for being free-thinking enough to be asking questions and expecting answers.
You go on living in your little eagle shaped world, however, if that's what makes you feel happy and secure.
You're entitled. |
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By: blackasthe_ace 19/09/2008 11:25 pm Yahoo! Profile: blackasthe_ace Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| 9/11 was an inside job |
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By: longweekend58 19/09/2008 11:27 pm Yahoo! Profile: longweekend58 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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<It also ain't as easy as you propose. >
no, it's not easy but nor is it outstandingly hard. your father could do it EASILY. so could any half trained pilot. They were undoubtedly lucky to be so successful but scarcely improbable.
If I can do it on a simulator and had some real-life pilot training then I too could have given it a good shot. their chances were probably only 1 in 10 of hitting the building but they had a lucky day. |
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By: ripfelix 19/09/2008 11:27 pm Yahoo! Profile: ripfelix Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| As I said before ydont, just a single validated credible piece of evidence.......... just one |
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By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:29 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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"Everybody hold hands, form a circle and sing "coombya""
That attitude really annoys me.
What is the alternative that you're proposing? We just live in constant conflict until the world is a nuclear waste dump?
It's because people don't look for another way that the world is in the mess it's in. Or hadn't you noticed?
You might like living under the constant shroud of fear and war and conflict and murder.
I don't.
If enough people could get over their egos and their need for this constant p!ssing competition that exists between people, the world might be a better and safer place for everyone.
But no... you all go on thinking in your war-mongering, us and them, believe all-question nothing manner and we'll just carry on with the sucky old status quo that we've got until someone feels the urge to press the red button and destroy us all permanently. Ok?
You don't think that's a kind of dysfunctional approach to the world?
Whatever.
Enjoy the world you've created. |
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By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:31 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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"As I said before ydont, just a single validated credible piece of evidence.......... just one"
The evidence is there. You just choose to ignore it.
QUESTION things is all I'm saying.
What is so wrong about asking questions?
Anyway... when nameless faceless people who are obviously less intelligent than me start getting under my skin with stupid comments, it's time to stop rebutting and log out. |
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By: ripfelix 19/09/2008 11:33 pm Yahoo! Profile: ripfelix Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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' who are obviously less intelligent than me"
Yep time for you to log out, I think. |
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By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:33 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I really hate that people take pleasure in winding people up instead of having an intelligent, thoughtful DISCUSSION based on mutual respect and actually being interested in an alternative point of view.
Point-scoring is so juvenile and low-brow.
I suppose I would be overly optimistic to expect anything else on a site such as this. |
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By: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com 19/09/2008 11:34 pm Yahoo! Profile: ydontpeoplethink@y7mail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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"Yep time for you to log out, I think."
Your own words prove it to be true. Excuse me for stating the obvious, regardless of the pain it induces. My bad. |
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By: blackasthe_ace 19/09/2008 11:35 pm Yahoo! Profile: blackasthe_ace Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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thats all these clowns do,attack posters,not facts.
gold shot up $85 dollars in 1 night,then again these
clowns prolly shoot $100 up every night.. |
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