By: urbaniteshaz
23/05/2008
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| says a lot about the morals (or lack there of )of a lot of people ey??? |
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By: ausgal951753
23/05/2008
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it may be off topic slightly but it is only religion and the weather that make us cover our bodies.
Our distant ancestors saw nothing wrong with exposing our flesh and actually saw our bodies as a thing of beauty.
It is only church people that say we must cover up. |
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By: antago.nist
23/05/2008
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Bottom line is this really....
Unless we are all ALLOWED to see it, how can we decide FOR OURSELVES whether it is ART or PORN?
By doing what they are doing the authorities are blatantly taking away our rights as citizens to make that decision.
Sounds like a police state.
But aren't we a democracy?
Or am I mistaken? |
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By: urbaniteshaz
23/05/2008
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| as soon as the words Naked children were mentioned any normal person would NOT want to see it. |
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By: antago.nist
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| so if she was photographed on her 18th birthday, all this would not be getting discussed, I guess. |
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By: longweekend58
23/05/2008
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<as soon as the words Naked children were mentioned any normal person would NOT want to see it.>
thats prudish in the extreme. What about peoples baby photos? of swimming at the beach naked. I find it amusing that our society says that at 18 you can do pretty much ANYTHING but the day before that you can do NOTHING and anyone associated with you goes to jail. Seems odd to me. |
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By: hallacba
23/05/2008
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religion is bullsh1t
why should people who don't believe in religion have to put up with their unrealistic laws |
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By: emucorp
23/05/2008
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"But aren't we a democracy?"
Well if it's democracy you you want it appears that the majority of people oppose the exhibit. So to insist on it being displayed would be un-democratic now wouldn't it? |
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By: urbaniteshaz
23/05/2008
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| well personally i beleive the legal age of concent being 18 is a little young. They haven't had enough life experience to make fully informed decisions. im certainly older than 18 and i can honestly say now i would certainly not make some of the choices now that i made back when i was 18 and naieve |
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By: longweekend58
23/05/2008
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<well personally i beleive the legal age of concent being 18 is a little young. They haven't had enough life experience to make fully informed decisions. im certainly older than 18 and i can honestly say now i would certainly not make some of the choices now that i made back when i was 18 and naieve>
That is idiotic! whilst 18 is obviously young that doesnt mean people shoudl be denied choice. You woudl have a 22yo naked photo decried as CHILD pornography? |
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By: urbaniteshaz
23/05/2008
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iv'e already said family photos of babys first swim or bath
again are not posed in a sexually provactive mannor. they are proud records of our childs milestone, whats wrong with you. |
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By: longweekend58
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<Well if it's democracy you you want it appears that the majority of people oppose the exhibit. So to insist on it being displayed would be un-democratic now wouldn't it?>
ACtually, the vast majority thing the exhibition is NOT child pornography. |
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By: longweekend58
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<iv'e already said family photos of babys first swim or bath
again are not posed in a sexually provactive mannor. they are proud records of our childs milestone, whats wrong with you.>
Nothin is wrong with me. You are choosing to draw a line that is just where YOU want it to be - not where it is FAIR for it to be. what about kids modelling clothes esp underwear? is that pornographic? |
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By: plotrick1
23/05/2008
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*iv'e already said family photos of babys first swim or bath
again are not posed in a sexually provactive mannor. they are proud records of our childs milestone, whats wrong with you.*
Not in South Australia, mon frere.
http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/B/CURRENT/SUMM ARY%20OFFENCES%20(INDECENT%20FILMING)%20AMENDMENT% 20BILL%202008/B_AS%20INTRODUCED%20IN%20HA/SUMMARY% 20FILMING%20AMENDMENT%20BILL%202008.UN.PDF |
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By: darkhall67
23/05/2008
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"But aren't we a democracy?"
Well if it's democracy you you want it appears that the majority of people oppose the exhibit. So to insist on it being displayed would be un-democratic now wouldn't it? >>
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I very much doubt the majority of people are against it.
Majority of talkback radio listeners? Yes.
Majority of the Daily Telegraph readers? yes
And besides , democracy only works when people are making "informed" choices , not knee jerk ones. |
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By: emucorp
23/05/2008
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"I very much doubt the majority of people are against it."
Well at some point you'll have to decide whether your "doubt" is actually a valid source of data. Everywhere I've checked feedback polls suggest that the majority opposes the exhibit. We could run a referendum for you though? |
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By: plotrick1
23/05/2008
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*Well if it's democracy you you want it appears that the majority of people oppose the exhibit. So to insist on it being displayed would be un-democratic now wouldn't it?*
I'm a little troubled by this emu, and can't quite articulate why. Which is a real pain in the ass.
I think a part of it is the implication that any breach of the law (as passed by parliament and therefore reflecting the will of the people &c) would have to be construed as an un-democratic act. Maybe there's no problem with that. It would, apart from anything else, provide some reason to punish so-called victimless crimes...
But I think it goes more to the fact that living in a democracy doesn't mean that majority opinion is the arbiter of everything, particularly when it comes to matters of taste.
Like I said, I can't articulate it properly at this point. |
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By: longweekend58
23/05/2008
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<*iv'e already said family photos of babys first swim or bath
again are not posed in a sexually provactive mannor. they are proud records of our childs milestone, whats wrong with you.*
Not in South Australia, mon frere.
http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ/B/CURRENT/SUMM ARY%20OFFENCES%20(INDECEN T%20FILMING)%20AMENDMENT% 20BILL%202008/B_AS%20INTR ODUCED%20IN%20HA/SUMMARY% 20FILMING%20AMENDMENT%20B ILL%202008.UN.PDF>
I couldnt get that link to work no matter how hard I looked but I did see that there is an actual offence for possesion of NEWSPAPERS reporting sexual crimes! Can you believe that? I was frankly shocked! |
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By: urbaniteshaz
23/05/2008
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obviously their has to be freedom of coice and when a person is old enough to make the right choices for themslves has to be left to them to certain degree and as our law dictates it is 18 but obviously the need to protect
our children should be paramount and we cannot dissmiss photos such as this as acceptable Art. come on, i certainly find it reprehensible as any loving caring parent would. |
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By: emucorp
23/05/2008
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"And besides , democracy only works when people are making "informed" choices , not knee jerk ones."
Yes, yes I kow that everyone who has the temerity to disagree with you is uninformed, unintelligent and frankly not worth spitting on but they have feelings to you know. |
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By: longweekend58
23/05/2008
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Well at some point you'll have to decide whether your "doubt" is actually a valid source of data. Everywhere I've checked feedback polls suggest that the majority opposes the exhibit. We could run a referendum for you though
TRY THIS ONE: http://ninemsn.com.au/ |
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By: darkhall67
23/05/2008
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Everywhere I've checked feedback polls suggest >>
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Aaaah . Feedback polls. |
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By: buzzanddidj
23/05/2008
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'Well if it's democracy you you want it appears that the majority of people oppose the exhibit. So to insist on it being displayed would be un-democratic now wouldn't it?'
NO
If viewing were COMPULSORY.......
THAT would be un-democratic
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By: plotrick1
23/05/2008
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It is a mutt-ugly link, and so long that it's almost impossible to tell where the spaces are.
Try this:
http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/listBills.aspx?ke y=S
Scroll down to the Summary Offences (Indecent Filming) Amendment Bill 2008 link, then open the file in .pdf or .rtf. |
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By: longweekend58
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<obviously their has to be freedom of coice and when a person is old enough to make the right choices for themslves has to be left to them to certain degree and as our law dictates it is 18 but obviously the need to protect
our children should be paramount and we cannot dissmiss photos such as this as acceptable Art. come on, i certainly find it reprehensible as any loving caring parent would.>
Im a loving parent and that doesnt mean i find every phot of a child that i might not like 'objectionable'. Be carefuil what you wish for. If some of the nutters had their way, you would not be allowed to have ANY photos of any children. |
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