By: darkhall67
23/05/2008
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like most teenagers i am sure that at some point this young lady would feel embarrassed that thousands are looking at her naked body. thats normal.......b>>
Hmmmm ...maybe the girl in the photos has a different perspective to you sussan.
Maybe she doesnt give a toss what others think of her.
maybe she is mature enough to make the decision to take her clothes off for art.
Maybe it's no big deal for her. |
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By: ripfelix
24/05/2008
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| In place of the multipanel photographs from the '80s there were autonomous, single-frame images containing pictures, violently cut-up and then collaged, of young, pale, faceless bodies *** ing, sometimes in large groups, in dark, apparently cavernous locales. It was as if the orgy in Antonioni's Zabriskie Point had gone on past the point of exhaustion and into some posterotic realm where sex was the only cure for unquenchable loneliness. Again, as in Henson's almost too blatant parallel between the superficial spoils of the privileged and the ruined internal lives of the young and disenfranchised, his aggressive cuts and reassemblages bordered dangerously on a dumbass, obvious way of signifying his subjects' interpersonal agonies; yet some depth of understanding and level of finesse at which the reproductions could only hint left an almost addictive longing to search out these pictures and deconstruct their effect. |
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By: ripfelix
24/05/2008
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| Polanski leaps to mind. |
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By: cheeky_dee_au
24/05/2008
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'I highly doubt people would have found his "work" very artistic, it doesn't take much skill to press a button on a camera."
Oh dear. |
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By: ripfelix
24/05/2008
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| There is no doubt the man is an artist, but that doesn't preclude unhealthy fetishes. He has bordered on the unacceptable for years. This time he stepped to far. Without reprimand they all do. |
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By: ripfelix
24/05/2008
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http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?id=1694 &type=book&cn=28
Interesting review from 2003, he was questionable then. |
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By: letthemagicbegin
24/05/2008
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It comes down to consent!!
Is a child capable of giving their consent ?
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By: darkhall67
24/05/2008
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http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?id=1694 &type=book&cn=28
Interesting review from 2003, he was questionable then.>>
Questionable?
Here's a bit fom the site you upplied ripfelix;
"Henson's work could arouse the same sorts of controversies as that of Jock Sturges and David Hamilton, but the ideas of these different photographers should not be simplistically reduced to the depiction of adolescent sexuality. Lux et Nox is specifically related to a time and a place and it has a unique aesthetic sensibility. If it raises morally important issues, then it has performed a significant service, but ultimately the value of the book is that is a moving and exceptionally powerful collection of images. Highly recommended. " |
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By: darkhall67
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It comes down to consent!!
Is a child capable of giving their consent ? >>
Yes. If they havent been indoctrinated with the idea that their bodies are evil and disgusting and worthy of guilt , guilt , guilt. |
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By: ripfelix
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My point, Dark, was he may be an accredited artist, but his subject matter has always raised concern.
Boundaries, that what its about.
He pushed the boundary and must be told its not acceptable. |
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By: miss88vl
24/05/2008
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I bet many paedophiles say the same thing - that children are capable of giving their consent !
HOW SICK !!!!!!!!!!! |
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By: carpe_delerium
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Artists have been pushing boundaries for centuries. It's what artists do. It's part and parcel of being an artist.
Ten or twenty years from now, this will have been another tempest in a teacup. In fifty years, it will get a mention in the art history books. That young lady should grow up to look back with pride and pleasure on the preservation of her youth in art. She should NOT have to grow up feeling ashamed of her beauty, and this is where the true crime lies. The artist has not taken advantage of that girl, nor has he hurt her; but you people are certainly guaranteeing that she will eventually be hurt by the controversy YOU are creating. |
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By: darkhall67
24/05/2008
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HOW SICK !!!!!!!!!!!>>
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What's sick is that you people look at those photos (that's if you even bothered to be informed about the topic you are spouting forth about) find something sexual , disgusting and objectionable about them.
I mean , really. What must go through your minds. |
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By: darkhall67
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Artists have been pushing boundaries for centuries. It's what artists do. It's part and parcel of being an artist.
Ten or twenty years from now, this will have been another tempest in a teacup. In fifty years, it will get a mention in the art history books. That young lady should grow up to look back with pride and pleasure on the preservation of her youth in art. She should NOT have to grow up feeling ashamed of her beauty, and this is where the true crime lies. The artist has not taken advantage of that girl, nor has he hurt her; but you people are certainly guaranteeing that she will eventually be hurt by the controversy YOU are creating. >>
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Aaaaahhhh. Thanks delerium.
Everything I wanted to say but more articulate and eloquent. |
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By: carpe_delerium
24/05/2008
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| My pleasure. |
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By: weed612001
24/05/2008
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| I second that carpe!! This whole thread takes me back to the time my aunt called my cousins kid a sl4t for wearing a top that showed her navel!! I was shaking with anger!! That was the closest i have ever come to hitting a woman, and she was 67 years old!! |
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By: aquaman609
24/05/2008
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Police close naked teen photograph exhibition
Good lord For a Hundred years we have had Paintings of Naked Cheribes toggles and fannies showing now it is Modern art it is Unlawful ??? |
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By: weed612001
24/05/2008
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Thing is ,the little girl was 14 at the time. She was a young 14!! She promptly burst into tears.
Those are the sort of things that stay with you forever!! |
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By: peaceleo69
24/05/2008
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I have had two daughters of 13 years of age and my grandaughter is now 13.
There is no way in hell-I would want someone to take photoes of them in the nude;then display them for anyone to look at: artistic or paedophilic ,minded.
How many of those argueing ; that it is art yadda...-would want nude photos of their 13 year old teenage girls on display for anyone to peer at.
And if you say you would ;I would consider you have a real problem,and your children will too!
There is also a difference between pics of one's own babies in the nuddy-that one puts in a personal family album-but does not display to the wide world-and having photos of a young vulnerable girl on display, naked for all to see and identify.
There would be few people ;who even have naked photoes of thier children; above school age;in their family albums!
and to those who keep trying to turn it round and justify it,by saying that those, who think the concept of having a young girl photographed and displayed nude-shows thier own 'dirty mind'-you are deluded.
Most on here ;who think this way-are protecting the innocence of the child involved and looking at it in the context, of the possibility ;the child could be theirs.
She is not just an object-as some on here ,seem to see her!
If you see nothing wrong ,in the exploitation of this young girl-'for arts sake';you have a real probem as a human being and a parent.
This is not art-it is the exploitation ,of a vulnerable young girl ,for the monetary and sensory gratification of others.
The picture of the young girl; who was bombed with napalm-has nothing to do with nudity;it was the horror of war and what she was suffering and how her young body was obscenely burned.
Seems ;some here, didnt actually notice that!
This was a picture to inform and shock-not an art piece, 'pushing the boundries'!
and some early posts here; at least ;seem very reminiscent of bullant! |
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By: weed612001
24/05/2008
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My god!! I agree with aqua!! My brother is interested in art. In fact he purchased a book just yesterday that has naked everything in it!!
Depraved!! |
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By: lefowlerau
24/05/2008
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"The picture of the young girl; who was bombed with napalm-has nothing to do with nudity;it was the horror of war and what she was suffering and how her young body was obscenely burned."
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Exploited for the purpose of getting a message across nonetheless. Whether you agree with the message or not.
One could ask what kind of sicko would see a naked child running up the road on fire and take a photo of her rather than rush to her aid. |
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By: peaceleo69
24/05/2008
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I couldnt help but notice the ever increasing amount of men that were arriving at the gallery from all over the country to see the exhibition, and vented their dissapointment to the media outside.
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I have not read the whole thread-but the pages I have read;it does seem the overwhelming majority of those vehemenentaly defending these photos as 'art' here;are also men!
I wonder what that says? |
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By: peaceleo69
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One could ask what kind of sicko would see a naked child running up the road on fire and take a photo of her rather than rush to her aid.
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I think you misjudge the photographer-who found at this point ;his whole concept of the war turned.
He became a most vocal critic and helped turn the tide against it, which helped bring it to an end ;shortly after.
He also rescued the young girl and brought her back for treatment, which he paid for.
She is now a very healthy young women-who has returned to her own country but has a wonderful friend ship with the man who rescued her and paid for her surgeries. |
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By: lefowlerau
24/05/2008
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"I have not read the whole thread-but the pages I have read;it does seem the overwhelming majority of those vehemenentaly defending these photos as 'art' here;are also men!
I wonder what that says?"
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I was also quite vocal in my defense of Mapplethorpe's agianst the West Midland's local plod back in the late 90's.
I suppose that makes me h o m o sexual as well. I mean, I take it that's what you are implying there peace.
Funny, I never knew. |
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By: lefowlerau
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"She is now a very healthy young women-who has returned to her own country but has a wonderful friend ship with the man who rescued her and paid for her surgeries."
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After he let her burn for some time longer in order to take the shot that "defined a generation".
See peace, it's easy to find base intentions, if you look hard enough. |
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