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By: buzzanddidj
7/11/2009
11:50 pm

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andre voted to the left once
In a council election in the UK
(or so he claims)

THIS makes him a 'swinging voter'

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By: andreihicks
7/11/2009
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You are so biased it is impossible for you to view anything other than from a simple Labor=Good and Liberal=Bad standpoint.

I, on the other hand, have voted many times for non-Conservative/Liberal parties.

Try it sometime and vote on policy than being such a blind sheep.

I may vote Labor in the Higgins by-election. Oh yeah, I forgot, they care about winning our seat so much they don't even come around here?!
Them and Us mindset??

By: buzzanddidj
7/11/2009
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'I, on the other hand, have voted many times for non-Conservative/Liberal parties'





I don't believe you
NO-ONE believes you

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By: andreihicks
8/11/2009
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Do you seriously believe that your opinion remotely counts to me?

There are so many things about you which earn my disdain I lose count of them.

Still, we are both Australian I suppose LOL

By: cktopsy
8/11/2009
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I may vote Labor in the Higgins by-election. Oh yeah, I forgot, they care about winning our seat so much they don't even come around here?!
By: andreihicks
9 minutes ago

Notice all is quite about the Higgins by-election since the latest polls show Labor down seven points and their 18 point two party preferred lead slashed to just four.

By: deemondo
8/11/2009
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http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/05/09/rudd_nar rowweb__300x428,0.jpg


have a look at this would you vote for this,i was going to say man but im speechless

By: buzzanddidj
8/11/2009
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'Still, we are both Australian I suppose LOL'

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One by spirit
One by receipt

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By: andreihicks
8/11/2009
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Maybe Labor are going for the 'if you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all'

The fact they are not running a candidate here is pathetic though and shows they do not see us as important.
They do not govern in our interests and never have.

They govern for the losers.

By: buzzanddidj
8/11/2009
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'The fact they are not running a candidate here is pathetic though and shows they do not see us as important'



This is standard practice by Governments in un-winnable by-elections

The Howard Government failed to stand cantidates in THIRTEEN by-elections during its term of government

It is an economic decision based on conserving campaign funds for general elections

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By: cktopsy
8/11/2009
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This is standard practice by Governments in un-winnable by-elections

Yes ang Higgins is just that.....

"It is a safe Liberal seat with Toorak in it,"

By: andreihicks
8/11/2009
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Around here we don't appreciate Governments who run up debt then squeeze our demographic for more taxes to fund handouts to losers and bogans.

By: buzzanddidj
8/11/2009
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'"It is a safe Liberal seat with Toorak in it,"'




EXACTLY

So where is the logic in spending half a million dollars on a battle you know you will NEVER win ?

The electorate is CANCEROUS with 'andres'
Consituants who only EVER vote Liberal

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By: longweekend58
8/11/2009
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<But YOU do !

VERY unconvincingly
Repetitively quoting, ad-nauseum, the HALF brain-dead Thatcher
And the TOTALLY brain-dead Reagan

THIS is 'impartiality' ?
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you mean the two leaders that saved the economies and massively changed their respective countries?

By: longweekend58
8/11/2009
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<'"It is a safe Liberal seat with Toorak in it,"'




EXACTLY

So where is the logic in spending half a million dollars on a battle you know you will NEVER win ?

The electorate is CANCEROUS with 'andres'
Consituants who only EVER vote Liberal>

and this only applies to safe liberal seats? safe labor seats arent 'cancerous'?

By: puttockmay
8/11/2009
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Let me draw the line under those........!!!

and get this thread back to the bright side of life!!!

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Three layers of insulation sandwhiched between steel plates surrounded in 1000 metres of CONCRETE!!!

PHEW!!!

That should hold the contamination for at least a couple of years!!!

Where were we???

Well 4 Corners, Monday 9th November is doing a full program on the Liberals and the CPRS, INTERESTING!!!

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By: astrolin7
8/11/2009
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and this only applies to safe liberal seats? safe labor seats arent 'cancerous'?

Safe seats in general are a joke. Vast swathes of people who live in safe seats often get second rate government.

By: corky1939
8/11/2009
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Astrolin as far as safe seats getting 2nd rate government, that is only if the seat is not a government one. In our electorate, a national seat, we have excellent representation, but the government witholds the things we are entitled to one example being the death trap that is the Pacific Highway in Northern NSW.


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By: pejon60
8/11/2009
10:56 am

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I read this article yesterday and my overriding thought was.....FINALLY!!!!

If the last Newspoll didn't scare the CRAP out of Rudd then this article should!

For over 3 years now Laurie Oakes has been so far up Rudd's rear end that he could taste what Rudd was having for dinner.
However it now seems that Rudd's ineptitude, inaction and falsities have reached a level that even Oakes realises that he HAS to distance himself.
Oakes has realised that he can no longer be a Rudd SYCOPHANT.
That for his own journalistic credibility it is VITAL that he writes the TRUTH

He even gives Howard his due! Something he has steadfastly refused to do in his blind and biased Rudd Support

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: puttockmay
8/11/2009
11:05 am

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Well, I notice my earth shattering News about 4 Corners, has absolutely no impact......you don't drop a beat, just on you go with the same old, same old, you go on with every day.......

day in.......day out!!!

You probably have a standard script you put on......

There, there......sorry to be so harsh!!

and butt in with some real news!!!


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By: pejon60
8/11/2009
11:18 am

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Maybe no one responded because it had
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC AT HAND!!!!!

IF IT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU START ANOTHER THREAD

TWIT!!!!!

By: puttockmay
8/11/2009
11:19 am

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This ia Andrei,

A sampling from above:

You are so biased it is impossible for you to view anything other than from a simple Labor=Good and Liberal=Bad standpoint.

I, on the other hand, have voted many times for non-Conservative/Liberal parties.

Try it sometime and vote on policy than being such a blind sheep.

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The fact they are not running a candidate here is pathetic though and shows they do not see us as important.
They do not govern in our interests and never have.

They govern for the losers.

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You see he criticises others for voting blindly like sheep.......notice!!!

Then he says, he has voted Labour......notice!!!

but then,

he says the only people who Labor represents are Losers!!!

But he does not include himself amongst these:

"They do not govern in our interests and never have."

Well there goes Andrei's free thinking up in smoke!!!

How rusted on can you get???

Him ever vote Labour, I don't think so....!!!

Would you buy a USED car from this man???

Not that he would ever lower himself to do such a job!!!

I apologise, no offence is meant to real Used Car sales men.......the comparison with Andrei is probably the worst part of the insult!!

Sorry, its an old joke based on prejudice and stereo-typing.


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By: corky1939
8/11/2009
11:24 am

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Imagine if it were John Howard presiding over the stand-off with 78 Sri Lankan asylum seekers on the Oceanic Viking, the Australian Customs ship on which they have been languishing in Indonesian waters for three weeks, and counting. It would have been proof of his racist, xenophobic, inward-looking, 1950s-mired, white-picket-fence narrow-mindedness and meanness of spirit that had turned us into a pariah nation. As for Philip Ruddock, bring on the cadaver metaphors.

Imagine if Howard were prime minister last weekend when a boat of asylum seekers capsized near the Cocos Islands, drowning 12 people, including two teenage boys. It would have been SIEV X all over again. Blood on your hands, little Johnny. Crack journalistic investigative teams would be signing book contracts. Hannie Rayson would whip up another play applauded by chatterers and doctors' wives. The Refugee Action Coalition, Flotillas of Hope, Free the Refugees Campaign, Stop the War Coalition, North Shore Greens, Western Sydney Peace Group and North-West Friends of Refugees would be marching on Kirribilli House.

And yet the criticism of the Rudd Government from our public moral guardians has been oh, so muted. Where are Julian Burnside, Tony Kevin, Malcolm Fraser and Phillip Adams with their fearless commentary? Tom Keneally and his taped mouth? Ian Macphee, Greg Barns, Richard Woolcott, Marcus Einfeld? Oh, I forgot. He's in jail.

The lobby group A Just Australia, which hounded the Howard government over asylum seekers, has issued five press releases this year, of which four have led with attacks on the Opposition, including dire warnings about "a punitive … hardline faction within the shadow cabinet". The other press release mildly reproached Rudd for "disappointing" use of the term "illegal immigration" before moving to familiar territory, lambasting irresponsible "Sharman Stone and other shadow cabinet extremists". Old habits die hard.

By: corky1939
8/11/2009
11:26 am

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Mandatory detention, it is worth pointing out at every opportunity, was introduced by Howard's Labor predecessor, with nary a murmur, even when about 350 children were locked up in 1993. It was Howard who ended the policy of detaining children.

But opportunists who despised Howard and the rednecks who voted for him used refugees as a political bludgeon, without any real attempt to help them. Those who once decried Howard's border protection policies, including the Pacific solution, which had asylum seekers processed in Nauru and on M@nus Island, have a much more relaxed take on Rudd's Indonesian solution.

Howard and Ruddock were demonised for their clear, firm stand in 2001 after the Tampa crisis. Yet the results were more humane in practice than the rhetoric might suggest. Boat arrivals all but stopped by 2002 as the criminal syndicates who run people-smuggling rackets got the message that there was no point risking people's lives in leaky boats. The drownings at sea stopped.

Rudd, on the other hand, adopted a soft-talking approach, repudiating Howard's border protection policies and pandering to the activist lobby while attempting to retain border control on the quiet.

In practice his policies may turn out be less humane than Howard's, not least because his rhetoric has offered asylum seekers false hope. But at least no one hates him.

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By: puttockmay
8/11/2009
11:30 am

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Maybe no one responded because it had
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC AT HAND!!!!!

IF IT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU START ANOTHER THREAD

TWIT!!!!!

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Oh, is that so, pebrain......

and I suppose endless waffle by Andrei and Buzzard about crossvoting in Higgins where Labor isn't even fielding a candidate.....is RIGHT ON TOPIC!!!

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OAKES becoming disillusioned about Rudd is very much to do with 4 CORNERS!!!

BECAUSE all these issues relate to the huge stouch looming over the CPRS. OAKES IS A MURDOCH journalist, I am told, and Murdoch is bringing out all his forces against Rudd and the CPRS.

The Liberal position will be detailed on 4 Corners tomorrow....so I hope, you can NOW see the connections young man!!!

"up here, for thinking, mate"

ie pointing to your pebrain!!!


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By: corky1939
8/11/2009
11:34 am

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>> "up here, for thinking, mate"

ie pointing to your pebrain!!! <<


You've made me chuckle with that puttock, it's the first time I've seen you "having a go" at another poster. Welcome to the boards. :-)



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