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Looks like the Luddites and big OIL have got their way again :(
The clever country and early adopters of technology :( What a load of shit !!
But we have plenty of brown coal we can clean up in a dishwasher and sell to India for a song :(
http://www.theage.com.au/drive/motor-news/mitsubis his-electric-car-in-doubt-for-australia-20091023-h c8q.html
Contradictions and Australian government disinterest cloud local future of Mitsubishi's i-Miev electric car that was due in 2010.
Will the Mitsubishi i-Miev plug-in electric car go on-sale in Australia anytime soon?
It's a case of yes, no, maybe, depending on which Mitsubishi executive you talk to - and if you think they understand the question in the first place.
Mitsubishi Australia boss Robert McEniry has been bullishly vocal about his plan to be the first brand to introduce a pure electric car here, predicting the i-Miev should go on-sale mid-2010.
But his statements have not been backed up at the highest level of Mitsubishi Motors Corporation.
In a meeting with Australian journalists at the Tokyo motor show yesterday MMC president Osamu Masuko said he had no knowledge of an Australian request to sell i-Miev in Australian.
"We haven't heard any concrete requests yet," he said through an interpreter. MMAL executives were surprised by the remarks because McEniry has had direct contact with Masuko about the sale of i-Miev in Australia.
They believed Masuko's comments to be a mistaken translation. It is certainly possible he thought he was answering a question about a government rather than MMAL request for the i-Miev.
In some cases, federal governments have approached Mitsubishi asking for the zero-emission car to be imported and offering incentives and subsidies so it can be sold at a competitive price.
That's not something the Australian government has done, even though federal industry minister Kim Carr has been chauffered by Masuko in an i-Miev on Tokyo streets..... |
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| Doesn't really matter, its more an overpriced toy than a real alternative anyway. There are a heap of infinitely better electric vehicles on the way from Renault, Mercedes, Audi, Tesla etc |
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Doesn't really matter, its more an overpriced toy than a real alternative anyway. There are a heap of infinitely better electric vehicles on the way from Renault, Mercedes, Audi, Tesla etc
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Yes there are but you'll probably won't see those here either for the same lame excuses :( |
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By: cktopsy
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Yes there are but you'll probably won't see those here either for the same lame excuses :(
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This is not an unexpected move that the Australian Government shows little interest in an imported Green vehicle.
To do so would undermine the Governments attempt to establish a Green Vehicle (actually fuel efficent engines) production in this country.
The Goverment is pouring milions into Ford and Holden to produce not so much Green vehicles but cars with extremly fuel efficient engines with low emmissions . |
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| Didn't the government give them $30,000,000 so they would sell the car in Australia?? |
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Yes there are but you'll probably won't see those here either for the same lame excuses :(
I notice there is already one Tesla here even though it can't be registered in LHD. Surely it must be a relatively simple task to convert one of those to RHD as they use a lot of Lotus Elise parts. |
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By: longweekend58
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| rustynail is foaming at the mouth again and still doesnt understand the fundamentals of this issue. The MiEV is a toy - a niche vehicle at best and absurdly overpriced. If there are problems in bringing it to australia, it is because the market simply doesnt exist in commercial quantitities. there are better EVs on the planning board - cars that can actually service a general market. |
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| I notice there is already one Tesla in Australia but unregistered. It should be a relatively simple task to convert one of those to RHD as they are based on a Lotus Elise. |
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rustynail is foaming at the mouth again and still doesnt understand the fundamentals of this issue. The MiEV is a toy - a niche vehicle at best and absurdly overpriced. If there are problems in bringing it to australia, it is because the market simply doesnt exist in commercial quantitities. there are better EVs on the planning board - cars that can actually service a general market.
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Yeh like the infamous 600 million dollar Mitsubishi 380 that ticks all of the boxes as well as the 180 million fully imported Korean made Holden "Green" car ;)
It didn't take you long to resurface on this thread but not once did you reply to the 180 million dollar fully imported Korean made Holden Green car thread ;)
I've got a good idea for you though. Lets make good Kevin Dudd's green car program by giving the 180 million that Holden swindled out of the tax payers and subsidize the Mitsubishi MiEV. That should buy a lot of MiEV's as well as public solar recharging stations ;) |
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To do so would undermine the Governments attempt to establish a Green Vehicle (actually fuel efficent engines) production in this country.
The Goverment is pouring milions into Ford and Holden to produce not so much Green vehicles but cars with extremly fuel efficient engines with low emmissions .
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Why ??
In the US, GM is working overtime on a plugin hybrid. Why not do that here ??
http://gm-volt.com/ |
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By: longweekend58
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same crap - different thread. rustynail, it is always the same with you. never any new ideas or arguments. always the same...
BORING! |
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Why?
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It is a matter of reality one that longweekend has on many occassions attempted to convey to you.
It has to with market realities in terms of yearly car sales on a car manufactures global scale Australia is a very small market.
Also Australia with it's sprawling cities because of our love of th 1/4 acre block, Australian's commute by car from distances far greater than electric cars can travel on one battery charge.
It's all about reality not because Australian's hate electric vehicles.
Chist on any one day at our huge local Shopping onecan regularly count numerous electric buggies being used by the less upwardly mobile |
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<It is a matter of reality one that longweekend has on many occassions attempted to convey to you.
It has to with market realities in terms of yearly car sales on a car manufactures global scale Australia is a very small market.
Also Australia with it's sprawling cities because of our love of th 1/4 acre block, Australian's commute by car from distances far greater than electric cars can travel on one battery charge.
It's all about reality not because Australian's hate electric vehicles.
Chist on any one day at our huge local Shopping onecan regularly count numerous electric buggies being used by the less upwardly mobile>
that is very true. the commercial realities are what will primarily drive the acceptance (or not) of electric or hydrogen cars. |
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same crap - different thread. rustynail, it is always the same with you. never any new ideas or arguments. always the same...
BORING!
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Since you like bagging "green" cars here is your chance to bag Holden and its so called 180 million dollar tax payer funded fully imported "Green" car ;)
http://au.messages.yahoo.com/news/politics/599394/ #msg_599394 |
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Also Australia with it's sprawling cities because of our love of th 1/4 acre block, Australian's commute by car from distances far greater than electric cars can travel on one battery charge.
The quarter acre block is an endangered species in Queensland & probably everywhere else in Australia too. We only choose to commute as far as we do because we don't have the intelligence to tele-commute. I could quite happily get by with the 400k range of a Tesla, after all its not that much less than my Porsche. |
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| Im not bagging green or electric cars, you barely-sentient lifeform! Im introducing you to the commerical realities that you know so little about! |
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<I could quite happily get by with the 400k range of a Tesla, after all its not that much less than my Porsche.>
at about the same price! but how long does it take to refule your porsche compared to the tesla? to me, that is a major issue. |
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Why?
The lastnail1
It is a matter of reality one that longweekend has on many occassions attempted to convey to you.
It has to with market realities in terms of yearly car sales on a car manufactures global scale Australia is a very small market.
Also Australia with it's sprawling cities because of our love of th 1/4 acre block, Australian's commute by car from distances far greater than electric cars can travel on one battery charge.
It's all about reality not because Australian's hate electric vehicles.
Chist on any one day at our huge local Shopping onecan regularly count numerous electric buggies being used by the less upwardly mobile
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They are not just made for Australia and haven't you heard of export markets ??
Also if its OK for GM to make a plugin hybrid for the US market what is the f.cken difference here ??
What a complete idiot !! |
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at about the same price! but how long does it take to refule your porsche compared to the tesla? to me, that is a major issue.
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Hoe much does it cost to refuel the Porsche compared to the Tesla ?? LOL
Of course that doesn't matter to a rich liberal c.nt like you.
The offer is still open for you to post on the 180 million dollar tax payer funded fully imported Korean made Holden 'Green' car thread ;) LOL
http://au.messages.yahoo.com/news/politics/579396/ |
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Im not bagging green or electric cars, you barely-sentient lifeform! Im introducing you to the commerical realities that you know so little about!
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Commercial realities like the infamous 600 million dollar Mitsubishi 380 ;)
And the 180 million of tax payers money for the fully imported Korean built "Green" car ;)
Yep those are a real commercial reality aren't they ;) |
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<Also if its OK for GM to make a plugin hybrid for the US market what is the f.cken difference here ??
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population, you uninformed twit. 300M vs 20M |
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<Commercial realities like the infamous 600 million dollar Mitsubishi 380 ;)>
it was a failure - like many product failures. whats your point? |
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population, you uninformed twit. 300M vs 20M
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You are wasting your breath
It's like all the alternative lifstylers we must have it now, the realities are not part of the equation |
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population, you uninformed twit. 300M vs 20M
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I suppose that reasoning would apply to the 180 million dollar tax payer funded fully imported Korean built "Green" car as well ??
How many of those will they sell here ?? ;) LOL |
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You are wasting your breath
It's like all the alternative lifstylers we must have it now, the realities are not part of the equation
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Reality check. Holden has a habit of ditching progressive automotive technology and this way back in 2000. How long do you expect people to wait for Holden and Ford to get their act together ??
http://www.csiro.au/solutions/ECOmmodore.html
Hybrid family car uses CSIRO technology
Holden's ECOmmodore proves that petrol-electric cars could be economical today.
CSIRO technologies make the ECOmmodore much less expensive than previous hybrid vehicles.
They are unique because they not only power a vehicle the size of a standard family car, but they also make it drive like one.
Innovations
The ECOmmodore uses innovations from across CSIRO including:
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energy management strategies
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advanced lead-acid batteries
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super-capacitors
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electric traction motor
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light-metal castings. |
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