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By: slr2007mclaren
4/07/2009
1:51 pm

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It would be very surprising to me if the AFP do not have a lot more than that.
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speculations

By: casino_royale44r
4/07/2009
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slr207 you do need to read statements from turnbull, turnbull said on the fake email there is no evident to say rudd mislead parliament!!!

sorry the wheels just fell off your pram mate so get over it move on and get a life!!!!

By: slr2007mclaren
4/07/2009
1:53 pm

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Once located a full trace would be possible, they should know things like which mail servers passed it, which user account sent it and who forwarded it and where too. This would include that if it were spoofed the originating IP address and ISP or corporate network involved.
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according to rough......who said it was sent to Grech's computer

it could have been stapled to the screen


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By: simonhall1900
4/07/2009
1:54 pm

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Ah, casino......I sense you are orgasmic in your delight to read something good about the Ruddidiot.
Perhaps you should frame the comment and hang it in your toilet so you can use and enjoy it in the future.
A more sigificant but true insult is that there are enough idiots in the public who were sucked in and are now too ashamed to admit how utterly stupid they were to vote for a liar and his team of incompetent but corrupt union hacks.
But enjoy it while you can casino.....this time next year, you will have disappeared off this blog or changed your name in shame as more and more of the media tarts start to turn on the moron.
Oh, don't bother responding about my hate for Rudd, bla, bla, bla.....you'd be right on that score!'

By: dnarever2
4/07/2009
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<<<they never ask Rudd to resign over "the email">>>


Well then why did Turnbull concede that without this email there was no case against Rudd.

This was the only thing which suggested that Rudd may have misled parliament.

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By: casino_royale44r
4/07/2009
1:57 pm

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poor simon pack up your bat mate and put your head down and head off home!!!!

lol

i will still be here next year as rudd will be returned because the majority of voters unlike you think this is a storm in a teacup it doesn't rate in the top 100!!!!

hahahahahahaha.

rent a life and move on

By: simonhall1900
4/07/2009
1:58 pm

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Are you renting a wife casino?????

By: casino_royale44r
4/07/2009
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hahhahhahahah see simon i am getting too you i can tell

By: slr2007mclaren
4/07/2009
1:59 pm

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slr207 you do need to read statements from turnbull, turnbull said on the fake email there is no evident to say rudd mislead parliament!!!
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so he "said on the email" now?

he wrote the email?

you are losing it casi

By: simonhall1900
4/07/2009
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Never...........

By: deemondo
4/07/2009
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this is a cracker i like the last bit from swann..

PS: Here's the transcription of an interview between the Treasurer, Wayne Swan, and the ABC reporter, Emma Griffiths on ABC's AM programmes from Thursday 25 June. The allegation, remember, is that the Treasurer gave special treatment to a Brisbane car dealer, John Grant, who gave Kevin Rudd the use of a "ute". Mr Swan has claimed that he treated other car dealers the same...

EMMA GRIFFITHS: How many other dealers did you speak to directly on the phone? Even if it is just for two minutes, how many other dealers?
WAYNE SWAN: Well it's a matter of public record that I spoke to Mr Grant.
EMMA GRIFFITHS: How many other dealers?
WAYNE SWAN: Well it's a matter of public record that I spoke to Mr Grant and I spoke to many other people and many other...
EMMA GRIFFITHS: Put it on the public record who else you spoke to. What other car dealers?
WAYNE SWAN: Well I have put it on the public record that I spoke to Mr Grant, Emma, but that is simply irrelevant...
EMMA GRIFFITHS: But you're not answering the question Mr Swan.
WAYNE SWAN: Well it's not exactly the right question.

By: simonhall1900
4/07/2009
2:02 pm

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Yes old Wendy been hiding under the table since this broke again "what really happened"

By: slr2007mclaren
4/07/2009
2:04 pm

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Well then why did Turnbull concede that without this email there was no case against Rudd.
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show me the transcript dna

in the mean time here is the EXACT trascript from Turnbull

http://www.liberal.org.au/news.php?Id=3312

We have seen extraordinary evidence before a Senate Committee today that demonstrates beyond doubt that the Treasurer, Wayne Swan, has repeatedly misled the Parliament.

We have also heard evidence that suggest the Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, has also misled the Parliament repeatedly.

These are grave allegations that reach the highest offices in the government of our nation.

By: bahamian3002
4/07/2009
2:05 pm

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By: slr2007mclaren
4/07/2009
2:06 pm

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EMMA GRIFFITHS: But you're not answering the question Mr Swan.
WAYNE SWAN: Well it's not exactly the right question.
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LOL Swan-flu!!

By: slr2007mclaren
4/07/2009
2:07 pm

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Baha is here Casino watching you make a cnt of yourself as usual.
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LOL

PMSL


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By: simonhall1900
4/07/2009
2:08 pm

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Does Casino know what a lawyer is?

By: casino_royale44r
4/07/2009
2:09 pm

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slr2007 turnbull said that now that the email has been too be fake he can not now say rudd mislead parliament
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Mr Turnbull has promised in Parliament to fully cooperate with the Federal Police investigation into the fraudulent email but he's also hinted that he may call on parliamentary privilege to hold back some information.

There are reports that the Opposition Leader had a secret meeting with the Treasury official Godwin Grech in the days before Mr Grech spoke about the hoax email at a Senate inquiry.

The email backed up Opposition accusations that the Prime Minister had intervened to help his neighbour, the car dealer John Grant, secure business finance.

Mr Grech is under police investigation and Malcolm Turnbull is refusing to reveal his dealings with the official.

Malcolm Turnbull has refused to comment this morning on reports that he and Senator Eric Abetz met Treasury official Godwin Grech in the lead-up to last Friday's controversial Senate committee hearing.

During the hearing, Mr Grech claimed that there was an email that linked Kevin Rudd to efforts to help the car dealer John Grant.

A spokesman for Mr Turnbull said the fake email was subject to a police investigation and he would not be commenting.

The Special Minister of State Joe Ludwig has called for the Senate privileges committee to examine whether the Treasury official Godwin Grech provided false evidence to the inquiry last Friday and then whether Senator Abetz used the fake email to question Mr Grech.

But the Family First Senator Steve Fielding sided with the Coalition to block the referral to the Privileges Committee.

By: deemondo
4/07/2009
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WAYNE SWAN: Well it's not exactly the right question.
====that just cracks me up,that will get a lot of airplay at the election.

By: casino_royale44r
4/07/2009
2:10 pm

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seem the liberals have a bloody lot to hide here reading from the above!!!

By: slr2007mclaren
4/07/2009
2:11 pm

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so where is the exact statement from Turnbull casi?

all you posted is a report

By: casino_royale44r
4/07/2009
2:13 pm

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The Agriculture Minister, Tony Burke, told how Mr Turnbull, as environment minister before the 2007 election, gave a $10 million grant to a friend and donor for rain-making technology.

"Was the payment against departmental advice? Yes. Was it for a mate? Yes. Was it for a donor? Yes. Did somebody end up receiving that money? Yes," Mr Burke said.

"Every box is ticked according to the Leader of the Opposition's own definition of corruption."

By: slr2007mclaren
4/07/2009
2:17 pm

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if there is doubt about the $10M....let Rudd call a Judicial Inquiry

but if Rudd calls a Judicial Inquiry on Turnbull then Rudd has to face a Judicial Inquiry himself

does Rudd want to face a Judicial Inquiry??......NO!!!

By: casino_royale44r
4/07/2009
2:35 pm

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During the hearing, Mr Grech claimed that there was an email that linked Kevin Rudd to efforts to help the car dealer John Grant.

The opposition leader had used the email as the basis to call on the Prime Minister to resign saying it was proof Kevin Rudd misled parliament.

BC TV news reported police would question Mr Grech about a series of leaks from Treasury in the past year including adverse advice about the FuelWatch scheme and an email exchange between Reserve Bank governor Glenn Stevens and Treasury head Ken Henry about the bank deposit guarantee.

The report said that the ABC had been told by several Liberals that Mr Grech had been supplying information for Mr Turnbull "for some time".

It also said that Mr Grech had been an unofficial contact within Treasury for the Howard government, quoting one Liberal as saying: "He has been sympathetic to us for some time".
In a statement yesterday, the AFP said ''preliminary results of those forensic examinations indicate that the email referred to at the centre of this investigation has been created by a person or persons other than the purported author of the email''.

Federal Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull has admitted the OzCar accusations against Prime Minister Kevin Rudd cannot be sustained.

This comes a day after the Australian Federal Police revealed the email at the centre of the Utegate affair was a fake.

The Opposition claimed the email proved Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and his office were giving Ispwich car dealer John Grant special financial treatment in the OzCar scheme .Mr Grant is Mr Rudd's neighbour.

By: bahamian3002
4/07/2009
2:38 pm

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The only time Casino can post in a coherent fashion is when he cuts and pastes, otherwise it is gibberish.
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