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By: larkhill50
4/07/2009
10:13 am

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And this was part of your's macca

"at least the AFP admits that it was Rudd that spread this rumour"

So where did they admit that?

By: larkhill50
4/07/2009
10:16 am

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Come on macca, where?

By: buzzanddidj
4/07/2009
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'At least ,looking at a Newspoll spread-sheet, you get the FACTS ONLY



whats a spread sheet buzz and where do we get it?..

I too prefer the facts and nothing but the facts....

how are these facts come by?'




Newspoll spreadsheet showing ONLY DATA, without opinion, interpatation or analysis, are available here

http://www.newspoll.com.au/cgi-bin/polling/display _poll_data.pl?url_caller=latest&state=Any&mode=fil e&page=Search


Plus
Wording of questions
Sample sizes
And method used

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By: larkhill50
4/07/2009
10:20 am

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Come on macca, where?


Don't tell me he's "slimmed away".

By: buzzanddidj
4/07/2009
10:27 am

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Moved to another thread

By: brisisnice
4/07/2009
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The man is drunk with power and is starting to wade way out of his depth were his portfolio as PM is concerned.

He seems to have an opinion on every dam thing including the Gordon Ramsey V's Tracey Grimshaw saga and he uses the media when ever it suits his cause.

If I were him I'd back right off from the media they are 90% why his popularity is so high at the moment and if they turn on you look out Mr Rudd. Oh Please turn on him Please!

By: centrelink10
4/07/2009
12:20 pm

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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197 ,25725994-2702,00.html

Font Size: Decrease Increase Print Page: Print Imre Salusinszky | July 03, 2009
Article from: The Australian
KEVIN Rudd may have failed to emulate Bob Hawke's "love affair with the Australian people", but his honeymoon with much of the media shows no sign of losing its ardour after 18 months in office.

Rudd's triumph has been to water down a ruthless political will with a warm-and-cuddly persona that has been sold to the public on media platforms that were regarded as beneath his predecessor, John Howard.

Members of Team Howard, including the former prime minister, have been shaking their heads at Rudd's extraordinary exertions of spin and the tolerance of the Canberra press gallery towards the exercise.

By: cktopsy
4/07/2009
5:30 pm

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Mal's been cleared of the Ozcar issue buzzBy: slr2007mclaren

Latest AFP Statement 1 July 2009


OPPOSITION Leader Malcolm Turnbull was cleared yesterday over the fake email at the centre of the Utegate affair.

Federal Police investigating a fake email Mr Turnbull used to try to prove Prime Minister Kevin Rudd helped out a car dealer mate said they have closed their dealings with him.

AFP boss Mick Keelty said police had interviewed Mr Turnbull and did not need to deal with him again. "Our interaction with Mr Turnbull, as far as this matter goes, is complete," Mr Keelty said.

Mr Keelty also defended his decision to reveal that the email at the centre of the political debate was a fake before the investigation was complete.

It confirms Mr Turnbull's statement denieing he had any role in concocting the forged E-Mail.

Mr Keelty said the decision to reveal that the email was a fake was made in the public interest to prevent undue speculation, he said.

Not to do so "would have allowed a public debate and other sorts of issues to be speculated on which were based on a false premise", he said.

"I thought it was in the public interest to at least allow the public to know that this aspect of the inquiry had been completed."

By: jonjonson56
4/07/2009
5:38 pm

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By: slr2007mclaren
what Mr Rudd??

they won't publish your lies and you and sulking??!!
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Golly sir------------ I thought you would be complaining about how they destroyed your leaders credibility

By: larkhill50
4/07/2009
5:40 pm

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Latest AFP Statement 1 July 2009

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Same date, OP's link...

Last night, the AFP refused to confirm that Mr Turnbull had been formally cleared of any criminal misconduct.
The police chief's comments followed government accusations that Mr Turnbull was "intimately involved" in the matter.

By: cktopsy
4/07/2009
6:03 pm

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y: larkhill50
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Latest AFP Statement 1 July 2009

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Utegate cops put Malcolm Turnbull in clearFont Size:
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Article from: The Daily Telegraph
OPPOSITION Leader Malcolm Turnbull was cleared yesterday over the fake email at the centre of the Utegate affair.

Federal Police investigating a fake email Mr Turnbull used to try to prove Prime Minister Kevin Rudd helped out a car dealer mate said they have closed their dealings with him.

AFP boss Mick Keelty said police had interviewed Mr Turnbull and did not need to deal with him again. "Our interaction with Mr Turnbull, as far as this matter goes, is complete," Mr Keelty said.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197 ,25716984-5006784,00.html

By: larkhill50
4/07/2009
6:11 pm

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Thnk you topsy. I found this bit particularly enjoyable....

"The embarrassing destruction of the Opposition's case against Mr Rudd caused support for Mr Turnbull to plunge in opinion polls this week and sparked speculation his leadership could be under threat.

Mr Turnbull has disappeared from public view since Sunday and his office won't reveal where he is.

Shadow treasurer Joe Hockey, who has been put forward as a possible alternative leader, refused to comment yesterday when he was asked if he had any desire to be Opposition Leader."

By: cktopsy
4/07/2009
6:15 pm

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At least you had the courtesy to say thank you.

Put your money on Tony Abbott to lead the Coalition in not to soon away.

By: centrelink10
4/07/2009
6:19 pm

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By: cktopsy
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At least you had the courtesy to say thank you.

Put your money on Tony Abbott to lead the Coalition in not to soon away.


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Interesting CKT. Do you think the aussie public would accept Abbott? He made a huge c*ckup with his own statements (eg think bernie banton), and has spoken his mind (good and bad) on a number of issues. Can you see him as a the next PM?

By: larkhill50
4/07/2009
6:20 pm

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BTW topsy, where in your article do the afp clear Turnbull? All they say is that they have no further need to speak with him.

Now that could mean that they have enough evidence to hang the dog.

By: cktopsy
4/07/2009
6:21 pm

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By: buzzanddidj
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'Mal's been cleared of the Ozcar issue buzz'


NO.
He HASN'T
The AFP have fished the Turnbull interviews
They are still collating his and information from other sources and interviews, as well as continuing the investigation

It has NOT closed

NO-ONE has been 'cleared'

Sorry but Turnbull has by Mick Keelty himself in a statement to the Media

Utegate cops put Malcolm Turnbull in clear
Print July 01, 2009
Article from: The Daily Telegraph

OPPOSITION Leader Malcolm Turnbull was cleared yesterday over the fake email at the centre of the Utegate affair.

Federal Police investigating a fake email Mr Turnbull used to try to prove Prime Minister Kevin Rudd helped out a car dealer mate said they have closed their dealings with him.

AFP boss Mick Keelty said police had interviewed Mr Turnbull and did not need to deal with him again. "Our interaction with Mr Turnbull, as far as this matter goes, is complete," Mr Keelty said.

By: larkhill50
4/07/2009
6:23 pm

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Sorry, but those worde from Keelty do NOT clear him.

By: cktopsy
4/07/2009
6:26 pm

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BTW topsy, where in your article do the afp clear Turnbull? All they say is that they have no further need to speak with him.By: larkhill50

No in context it says our their dealings with Turnbull are complete in other words

OPPOSITION Leader Malcolm Turnbull was cleared yesterday over the fake email at the centre of the Utegate affair.

AFP boss Mick Keelty said police had interviewed Mr Turnbull and did not need to deal with him again. "Our interaction with Mr Turnbull, as far as this matter goes, is complete," Mr Keelty said.

By: buzzanddidj
4/07/2009
6:27 pm

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'Interesting CKT. Do you think the aussie public would accept Abbott?'


It could lead to a rise in donations to the Liberal Party by Philip Morris, at least, topping up their depleted campaign funds

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/02/2614 334.htm

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By: vegitamite97
4/07/2009
6:31 pm

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'You be the judge... maybe I would have been six foot six and I would have had much greater intelligence, who knows'
says Tony Abbott.
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yeah, maybe

By: buzzanddidj
4/07/2009
6:32 pm

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'OPPOSITION Leader Malcolm Turnbull was cleared yesterday over the fake email at the centre of the Utegate affair.

AFP boss Mick Keelty said police had interviewed Mr Turnbull and did not need to deal with him again. "Our interaction with Mr Turnbull, as far as this matter goes, is complete," Mr Keelty said'



The FIRST line is an assumption by the media
It is NOT a quote from the AFP

The second line IS a quote from the AFP
It says they have finished the Malcolm Turnbull interview
The investigation is still in progress

At NO stage have the AFP released a statement saying ANYONE has been 'cleared'

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By: vegitamite97
4/07/2009
6:34 pm

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actually I think Tony Abbott is hinting he isn't intelligent enough to be PM

By: cktopsy
4/07/2009
6:35 pm

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Abbott blames all governments for Indigenous gapABC
July 2, 2009, 4:02 pm

ABC News

The latest report on national Indigenous disadvantage is tragic, the federal Opposition's spokesman on Indigenous affairs, Tony Abbott, says.

The 'Overcoming Indigenous Disadvantage' report shows improvements in just 10 out of the 50 indicators measured by the Productivity Commission.

One of the statistics that has worsened is the rate of child abuse, with Indigenous children now six times more likely to be abused than non-Indigenous children.

Mr Abbott says it shows there is a lot that needs to be done to make a difference.

"This is a very disappointing report and it does reflect ill on all governments of both political persuasions," he said.

"But the essential problem here is the doctrine of exceptionalism which has been far too prevalent for far too long."

Mr Abbott says governments have had many reports detailing the extent of the gap over the years and more action is needed on the ground.

"Rather than having more partnerships and endless consultations, I think what we really need to do is to try and ensure that the same reasonable expectations are adhered to in respect of Aboriginal communities as applied to the general Australian population.

"And we could start by trying to ensure that 100 per cent of Aboriginal kids are enrolled at school."

By: slr2007mclaren
4/07/2009
6:38 pm

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I thought you would be complaining about how they destroyed your leaders credibility
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jon

only because you are too stupid to be caught out by the Rudd smear


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By: qikvtec
4/07/2009
6:41 pm

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actually I think Tony Abbott is hinting he isn't intelligent enough to be PM

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