By: codswal
2/07/2009
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No different to breastfeeding, urinating, copulating
Take out breastfeeding and copulating. Urine along with smoke,faeces and methane are all in the same category, waste product.
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how peculiar... they are all normal body functions.apart from smoking.. |
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By: humblegenius_fp
2/07/2009
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| When the children have no control over the situation they are placed in, society has a responsibilty to protect them. |
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By: qikvtec
2/07/2009
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When the children have no control over the situation they are placed in, society has a responsibilty to protect them.
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I agree in principle, but it's a pointless law that will be totally unworkable. That's my beef. |
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By: aussiearisen
2/07/2009
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| Trouble is, the more common sense and decency is legislated, the less people have of either. |
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By: qikvtec
2/07/2009
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| Common sense is a curse, we need more uncommon sense. |
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By: buzzanddidj
2/07/2009
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"I was a child that was regularly imprisoned in a car with heavy smokers," he said.
"My parents both smoked heavily when I was a kid. Now has it done me any harm?
"You be the judge... maybe I would have been six foot six and I would have had much greater intelligence............? '
No comment
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By: humblegenius_fp
2/07/2009
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I agree in principle, but it's a pointless law that will be totally unworkable. That's my beef.
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The cost of the law is zero, as it will be undertaken as part of general traffic control. So, if it costs nothing, and puts enough thought into parents minds to at least consider not lighting up, then its doing its job.
Clowns will talk on phones, not wear their seatbelts and speed, but the laws arent necessarily there to protect the driver, but other people. This law does that.
As it goes, the best way to stop people from doing the wrong thing is to make it so damn expensive you have no other option by to. If a speeding fine was $2,000 and not $135, do you think people will make themselves more aware? |
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By: humblegenius_fp
2/07/2009
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Trouble is, the more common sense and decency is legislated, the less people have of either
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Well, considering you are prepared to light up with kids in the car "because you damn well feel like it" it appears kids need protecting from selfish irresponsible people such as yourself aussie. |
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By: qikvtec
2/07/2009
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As it goes, the best way to stop people from doing the wrong thing is to make it so damn expensive you have no other option by to. If a speeding fine was $2,000 and not $135, do you think people will make themselves more aware?
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I am contemplating the purchase of a GT3 Carrera in a few months, how much do you think I care about speeding laws? |
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By: buzzanddidj
2/07/2009
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'I agree in principle, but it's a pointless law that will be totally unworkable. That's my beef'
I heard the same thing about severe fines for throwing cicarette butts out of car windows
I is VERY workable
Especially when I am around with a pen and paper, or phone camera
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By: humblegenius_fp
2/07/2009
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I am contemplating the purchase of a GT3 Carrera in a few months, how much do you think I care about speeding laws?
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Take it to Oran Park or Winton on open days. Speed is for the racetrack, not the streets. |
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By: qikvtec
2/07/2009
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I is VERY workable
Especially when I am around with a pen and paper, or phone camera
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Did you get the filthy creton' you caught in the act permission to film them? |
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By: humblegenius_fp
2/07/2009
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Did you get the filthy creton' you caught in the act permission to film them?
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Just asking the question, but dont you only need their permission if you are publishing the item? If its in the public, I think its fair game as long as you dont try and profit from it. |
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By: larkhill50
2/07/2009
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I am contemplating the purchase of a GT3 Carrera in a few months, how much do you think I care about speeding laws?
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Interesting point. Should the level of fines be determined by ones circumstances?
A thousand dollar fine would be a deterent to someone on 30k, but it would not be so daunting for someone on 300k. |
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By: qikvtec
2/07/2009
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A thousand dollar fine would be a deterent to someone on 30k, but it would not be so daunting for someone on 300k.
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A night on the piss for the later! |
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By: aussiearisen
2/07/2009
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"Well, considering you are prepared to light up with kids in the car "because you damn well feel like it" it appears kids need protecting from selfish irresponsible people such as yourself aussie."
Humblegenious, - I have no idea of how you managed to halucinate this little gem.
1. I don`t smoke.
2. I am 100% opposed to kids being exposed to many things, not least of which is cigarette smoke. |
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By: humblegenius_fp
2/07/2009
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my apolgies aussie, I have confused you with another poster in the heat of the discussion.
Please accept my unreserved apology. |
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By: qikvtec
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| feel the love |
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By: humblegenius_fp
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Interesting point. Should the level of fines be determined by ones circumstances?
A thousand dollar fine would be a deterent to someone on 30k, but it would not be so daunting for someone on 300k.
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Crush their $300k pride and joy under the hoon laws and they might. Obviously Im talking more than a couple of kms over. |
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By: qikvtec
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Crush their $300k pride and joy under the hoon laws and they might. Obviously Im talking more than a couple of kms over.
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Meh, you'd just buy another one, if your legal counsel wasn't able to get you off the charge. |
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By: larkhill50
2/07/2009
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Crush their $300k pride and joy under the hoon laws and they might. Obviously Im talking more than a couple of kms over.
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Yeah, I wasn't thinking exclusively of speeding offences here.
Just generally, the punitive power of a fine, rich vs poor. |
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By: buzzanddidj
2/07/2009
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'I is VERY workable
Especially when I am around with a pen and paper, or phone camera
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Did you get the filthy creton' you caught in the act permission to film them?'
Permission is not reuired to film someone in public
You are getting confused with unauthorised sound recording
Tho ONLY conviction I have secured so far has been via pen and paper and the help of the EPA
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By: slr2007mclaren
2/07/2009
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I whole heartedly support this matter. No child should be subject to the irresponsible and selfish actions of a parent.
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then take the child away from irresponsible parents |
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By: buzzanddidj
2/07/2009
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I can well understand the disgraced, former Health Minister opposing this initiative
It's a LABOR initiative |
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By: humblegenius_fp
2/07/2009
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I thought Tanner told Abbott a couple of weeks ago to sit in the car and stop barking at the passers by.
Now the mutt needs to be disciplined, prolly what he was looking for. |
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