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Coalition frontbencher Tony Abbott says New South Wales is playing nanny state politics with its ban on smoking in cars when children are present.
The former federal health minister has told a public health debate at Sydney University that smoking in front of children is a trivial issue and states should not intervene.
The NSW ban comes after similar moves in South Australia and Tasmania, with other states expecting to follow suit.
Anyone caught smoking in their car with a child as a passenger now faces a $250 on-the-spot fine.
Mr Abbott says the ban is over the top.
"I was a child that was regularly imprisoned in a car with heavy smokers," he said.
"My parents both smoked heavily when I was a kid. Now has it done me any harm?
"You be the judge... maybe I would have been six foot six and I would have had much greater intelligence, who knows?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/02/2614 334.htm |
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By: larkhill50
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Well!
That's a leg up for Joe Hockey. |
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By: slr2007mclaren
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he's talking about personal responsibility
but lefties wouldn't understand that concept |
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By: the_green_millennium
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So Abbott is pro passive smoking for kids ... but not active smoking by kids
like Doh !!!
what is it about the Coalition at the moment ... dumbest comment will secure the leaders job when they boot Turnbull. |
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By: aussiearisen
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"So Abbott is pro passive smoking for kids ... but not active smoking by kids"
Here comes a wave of giddy, tizzy, silly sissy fits. |
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By: larkhill50
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he's talking about personal responsibility
but lefties wouldn't understand that concept
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Really? And what will the spin be when he inevitably gets the crap kicked out of him by his colleagues over this damaging statement? |
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By: m.tivey
2/07/2009
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Well, feck me!!
The Mad Monk gets something right.
Feck the NSW government, I'll smoke in MY car when I wish, no matter WHO happens to be in it.
Get fecked, Rees! |
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By: m.tivey
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isn't it amazing what these ba$tards will do to STEAL money to (try to) balance their budget?
FECK 'EM!!!! |
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By: vegitamite97
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My parents both smoked heavily when I was a kid. Now has it done me any harm?
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Dont ya just luv this line ! |
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By: humblegenius_fp
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| I whole heartedly support this matter. No child should be subject to the irresponsible and selfish actions of a parent. |
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By: larkhill50
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No child should be subject to the irresponsible and selfish actions of a parent.
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Agreed.
And no public figure, much less a former Minister for Health, should give support to such actions. |
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By: humblegenius_fp
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And no public figure, much less a former Minister for Health, should give support to such actions.
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Meh, its Tony Abbott just looking for attention, I didnt so much want to talk about his position, I more so just wanted to explain mine. Tony has merely been cast to the wastepaper basket of history. |
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By: qikvtec
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Agreed.
And no public figure, much less a former Minister for Health, should give support to such actions.
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He's not advocating you smoke in front of your kids, just that the state govt shouldn't mandate against it.
I see bogan mums all the time crossing the street with a durry hanging over the pram for the wee bogan to inhale.
Makes me sick to my core, but it's her choice and frankly whats a few less bogans in the world matter. |
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By: vegitamite97
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much less a former Minister for Health,
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And here lays the foundations of why I can not trust the present liberal government.
You have a former Health ministers saying this. A Former Enviromental ministers logging islands...
I may be losing some faith in Labor but I certain have lost trust with the Liberals. |
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By: m.tivey
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Good on ya. Tony.
These stupid smoking bans have ALREADY gone way too far. |
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By: qikvtec
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I may be losing some faith in Labor but I certain have lost trust with the Liberals.
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I'd wager you never had it veg. Hope you are well. |
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He's not advocating you smoke in front of your kids, just that the state govt shouldn't mandate against it.
I see bogan mums all the time crossing the street with a durry hanging over the pram for the wee bogan to inhale.
Makes me sick to my core, but it's her choice and frankly whats a few less bogans in the world matter.
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Its not about the "bogan mums", its about the poor bloody kids, they dont get a say in this. This legslation is about protecting children, not about stripping the rights away from people.
Dont believe me, try explaining to your 12 year old brother why your mother died of cancer. |
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By: corky1939
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But there IS a point about parental responsibility here. The state takes over, so parents don't have to make choices for their children. Of course children should not be subjected to smoke in enclosed spaces, but the parents should be excercising responsibility for the health of their littlies - It's called love.
How will they police it ? I still see heaps of people driving and holding mobile phones up to their ears. In fact I've even seen them driving with a phone in one hand and a f ag in the other. |
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Dont believe me, try explaining to your 12 year old brother why your mother died of cancer.
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Pretty simple really, she smoked a pack of lung busters daily. That's not rocket science. |
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I'd wager you never had it veg. Hope you are well.
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Hey gik, Im so so, many unhappy issues happening but thats another story.
But what I will say is I did give the Liberal party the benefit of doubt for many years.
Trust me ;) |
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By: larkhill50
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But there IS a point about parental responsibility here. The state takes over, so parents don't have to make choices for their children. Of course children should not be subjected to smoke in enclosed spaces, but the parents should be excercising responsibility for the health of their littlies - It's called love.
We don't live in a perfect world Corky. Witness QV's bogan mum statement. We all know of parents like this.
How will they police it ? I still see heaps of people driving and holding mobile phones up to their ears. In fact I've even seen them driving with a phone in one hand and a f ag in the other.
Murders are still an everyday occurence too. Maybe we should sc rap that law? |
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Pretty simple really, she smoked a pack of lung busters daily. That's not rocket science.
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Trying doing it hero. |
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But there IS a point about parental responsibility here. The state takes over, so parents don't have to make choices for their children. Of course children should not be subjected to smoke in enclosed spaces, but the parents should be excercising responsibility for the health of their littlies - It's called love.
How will they police it ? I still see heaps of people driving and holding mobile phones up to their ears. In fact I've even seen them driving with a phone in one hand and a f ag in the other.
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Dont get me started on phones, it is just a law people flout.
Easiest way to make people take notice, make it too damn expensive not to. |
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After 25 years, I stopped. Some of my teeth are now falling out as a direct result, I hope this is the worst that happens from it. I try not to be too "reformed" about it...
I think the Government is very happy to make a lot of money from heavily taxing smokes. They are doing nothing to prevent new smokers taking up the habit as soon as they turn 18 (or look 18 to the shopkeeper).
I would suggest that if there was any genuine will to reduce the numbers of smokers, the minimum age would go up by a year each and every year, smoking products would be by doctors prescription only, and the products to give up the habit would be as heavily subsidised as smokes are taxed.
But no, as usual, the bean counters have found a new way of making money. Thats all it is, money. |
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Is anyone else stunned by the lefty ability to confuse and misunderstand the SIMPLEST concept ?.
Everything, it seems, has to be explained to them with the utmost patience. Their minds are like silly little trains that constantly need putting back on their tracks. |
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