By: beha44
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By: codswal
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well whos surprised about that!they probably think we all have dementia anyway....interesting how we get the we care.....we really care.........but thats it..........
anyone on a single pension in this country is most certainly POOR.....we need I reckon at least another $50 per week.....I am sick of hearing about maternity leave...baby bonus'....computers...... working families....thats all we hear about....give them more and more and more...and still its not enough......but what do we get....NOTHING.........we did our time without baby bonus' childcare hand outs....paid leave.....and what for to bloody starve thats what. |
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By: tifa999
14/05/2008
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| I agree, it was callous of Labor to leave out the people who build this nation, yet were not to plan for their retirement until only 25 years ago. Pensioners need a basic increase of at least $50 per fortnight to cover costs NOW, not a measly $500 spread out over the year. I don't have a walking cane yet, but I would like to pop Kevin over the head with one. |
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By: dsmithy70
14/05/2008
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http://www.budget.gov.au/2008-09/index.htm
Mr Speaker, the Government recognises the contribution of older Australians and carers to our community.
To assist them with rising costs, the Government will provide, by 30 June 2008, one‑off lump‑sum payments of $500 to eligible senior Australians, $1,000 to Carer Payment recipients, and $600 to Carer Allowance recipients for each eligible person in their care, at a total cost of $1.8 billion.
Pensioners have begun to receive a higher Utilities Allowance of $500, up from $107.20. Self funded retirees with a Commonwealth Seniors Health Card now receive a higher Seniors Concession Allowance of $500 per year, up from $218.
To offer further protection for older Australians against rising living costs, the Government will enhance indexation of the age pension.
The Government is making assessment rules for Carer Payment (Child) fairer by expanding eligibility to cases where a child's disability creates additional caring needs for parents or requires long periods of hospitalisation.
Under the new rules, an additional 19,000 carers of children with severe disability will be entitled to access this payment in 2009‑10, at a cost of $274 million over five years. This measure brings the total additional assistance provided to carers to $1.1 billion over five years.
Aged care providers will benefit from an increase in the Conditional Adjustment Payment, resulting in an additional $408 million for the industry over the next four years.
http://www.budget.gov.au/2008-09/search.asp?search String=aged+pension&Submit=Submit&Submit=Search
Cods top paragraph is the budget speech
2nd link is a search on the budget site for aged pensions, it returned 64 pages
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By: bettysa1
14/05/2008
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| i agree being on age pension i dont and cant buy meat i mean roast beef we still have to pay bills and hope they are not big ones kevin you dont have to do without anything we do you forgot about us seniors labour never did think about us anyway sad widow |
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By: lowther_jeff
14/05/2008
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Grey Power must stand up next election and stick it to
these morons, and toss them out labour is a joke |
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By: beha44
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| Unfortunatly the Libs. have never done much better so where does it leave the pensioners? |
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By: bias0007
14/05/2008
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All Swan said was "We are going to *enhance* the indexing for pensions"....what ever that means
But perhaps there's more "whitie" pensioners than "ethnics" and they don't want to appear to be helping whities....might lose the ethnic vote !!!! |
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By: hubert357
14/05/2008
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The old people still get $500
Disabled people still get nothing
Just like normal
Everybody hurts on government assistance
why should one group get help yet another starves?? |
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By: beha44
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The old people still get $500
Disabled people still get nothing
Just like normal
Everybody hurts on government assistance
why should one group get help yet another starves??
NO one has sugested that disable people should not get an increase, their pension is exactly the same as OLD people and obviously should also have been increased so that everyone can have the reasonable standard of living that they are entittle to.
I am sorry you feel so agressive, OLD people do starve but by the sound of it you would not know about being OLD !!! |
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By: hubert357
14/05/2008
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Well disabled people are in the same boat
all I'm saying is the old people should be thankful they got something.
The disabled people never have a chance
are given nothing
ever
Just because they are born different
enjoy your $500 |
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By: jasonwaroo
14/05/2008
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| Its actually public servant pensioners whom get ripped off actually. |
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By: napier48
14/05/2008
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| Probably pensioners are their own worst enemy , Most are Labor supporters ( I know there are probably exceptions who are not) & would vote Labor would know no matter what they do , they won't change & vote liberal so they can treat pensioners as they like with little or no concequences , they already tried to shaft the Carers & because of the fuss have reinstated it.. |
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Probably pensioners are their own worst enemy , Most are Labor supporters ( I know there are probably exceptions who are not) & would vote Labor would know no matter what they do , they won't change & vote liberal so they can treat pensioners as they like with little or no concequences , they already tried to shaft the Carers & because of the fuss have reinstated it..
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Pensioners where part of Howards voting block for years-hence the tax free super, the SATO of $1200 plus the ability of them to earn up to $70,000 tax free from non-super income.
Also government old age pensioners are entitled to their pensions, as Menzies back in the 50's closed the retirement savings accounts set up by the ALP, rolled the money into consolidated revenue with the promise that retirees in the future would be guareented a government pension in return. |
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By: dartybrian
14/05/2008
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A shocking betrayal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You 've conned us Kevin.
How about taking a look at the Patient transport assistance scheme..............when was it last reviewed? When petrol was half todays price it seems.
My wife and l travel 300 klms each fortnight for cancer treatment. What do you think this does to our budget?
How can we make these fatcats see what life is like on the breadline
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By: napier48
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Pensioners where part of Howards voting block for years-hence the tax free super, the SATO of $1200 plus the ability of them to earn up to $70,000 tax free from non-super income.
Also government old age pensioners are entitled to their pensions, as Menzies back in the 50's closed the retirement savings accounts set up by the ALP, rolled the money into consolidated revenue with the promise that retirees in the future would be guareented a government pension in return.
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I know what you are saying but realistically what % of pensioners woulld be Liberal voters , maybe low double figures & labor 70-80% Labor, I don't have figures to back it up but just an opinion & I think that is why they are disadvantaged ... |
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By: longweekend58
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<I know what you are saying but realistically what % of pensioners woulld be Liberal voters , maybe low double figures & labor 70-80% Labor, I don't have figures to back it up but just an opinion & I think that is why they are disadvantaged ...>
The elderly is and always has been, liberal heartland. huge majority are liberal supporters. |
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By: aprilhud123
15/05/2008
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napier48
You just can't help yourself can you; every opportunity you get whether factual or not to bag any Labor initiative; you nice little Liberal Lad. |
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By: tobyandstorm
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It appears beha that if the truth starts hurting somewhere in message land,the moderators kill the thread.
Two very interesting threads were removed yesterday, yours and the one about Work for the dole.Both attracted a lot of views and replies. It appears that there are some people out there who are out to beat their own political drum rather than discuss the problem at hand. |
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By: new_horizens
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The aged pensioners who we are referring to are those people getting something like $286 a week. They are not "rich" self-funded retirees... they don't have much to their name. they just want a little extra money to make ends meet.
Yet the Government has stated that it would be too costly for the country to increase the aged pension.
Well, if Swan couldn't give the aged pensioners a break, how could he give anyone else a break? Why give so much back to those "working families" instead giving less to them and some to the aged pensioners?
I'll tell you why. Because Labor stuffed up. They has six months to prepare the budget, and one of the most basic areas involving the aged of Australia was overlooked. Heck, the aged are going to die, anyway... so what does it matter?????
Well it does matter! |
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By: nw8hillbilly
15/05/2008
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| is it correct that pensions are indexed against CPI? Regardless of which side of politics you sit, it would seem that very little has been achieved by either party to relieve the financial stress of aged pensioners |
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By: markus5006
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"what % of pensioners woulld be Liberal voters , maybe low double figures & labor 70-80% Labor"
what a load of rot..
oldies tend to be conservative and hence vote conservative
pensioners generally vote for the Liberals |
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By: haveabanditday
15/05/2008
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| I'll tell you WHY the grey section of society was forgotten in this budget - RUDD does NOT consider them a minority... |
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By: napier48
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You just can't help yourself can you; every opportunity you get whether factual or not to bag any Labor initiative; you nice little Liberal Lad.
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Calm down or you will have a heart attack , I am allowed to have an opinion , sorry if I didn't agree with youre comrades so build a bridge & get over it..
Remember the dailt critism Labor supprters were doing over Libs before the election , you need to be accountable..
Sorry , take up Knitting instead.. |
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By: nw8hillbilly
15/05/2008
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cant remember the name of the famous dude who said, "to die with the same opinion that you had as a young person, is a life wasted"
The vote distribution should be irrelevant to the benefit recieved, unless of course younger voters are too myopic to realise that they will age |
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