By: monicaafryer
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| 21 billion in surplus well u can thank the libs 4 that. we always had extra when libs were in I can c on the horizon the depression we were meant 2 have remember keating saying that. thank you laborites hope ur happy. high interest, high petrol, high food prices, i can c the ration cards coming back, we need another election or a governor general who can get rid of rudds mob like kerr did with whitlam and get us back on our feet. |
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By: brosco_aus
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monica" NO REPUBLIC 4 ME EITHER RUDD dont u dare, "
HUH???? You have no clue, right? Republic is not a partisan issue!!!! |
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By: slr2007mclaren
4 days ago (Monday, 3:16 pm) Yahoo! Profile:
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So we can obviously expect an 'unbiased' opinion from slr!!!!!
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no doubt about it brosco
I will give a balanced synopsis of the budget
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By: casino43r
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I will give a balanced synopsis of the budget
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lol joke of the year, if any of your posts to date are to go by!!!!!!! |
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By: monicaafryer
4 days ago (Monday, 3:19 pm) Yahoo! Profile:
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| maybe but neither was changing our anthem that was 4 the country 2 decide not keating |
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By: slr2007mclaren
4 days ago (Monday, 3:21 pm) Yahoo! Profile:
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if my posts are factually incorrect there's plenty on here who would jump all over it
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By: brosco_aus
4 days ago (Monday, 3:22 pm) Yahoo! Profile:
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monica: 21 billion in surplus well u can thank the libs 4 that
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What??? you want to thank the Libs for taxing us $21bil over what they needed to run the country - about $30/person per week.
You think this is good????
As far as costs, until Labor brings down its budget, it has no influence. All current increases are part of the howard legacy. |
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By: ialwayspoor
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maybe but neither was changing our anthem that was 4 the country 2 decide not keating
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Actually I think it was Hawke.
My aunt was on the committee set up by Hawke to recommend the new anthem. Hawke didn't accept their recommendation and HE chose Advance Australia Fair against the committee. |
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By: brosco_aus
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By: slr2007mclaren
2 minutes ago Re:Budget key to productivity (PREVIEW)
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if my posts are factually incorrect there's plenty on here who would jump all over it
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They do - but you just run away.
I will admit. you are clever. You twist and distort and dont run away until its highligheted and cant find an escape |
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By: casino43r
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They do - but you just run away.
I will admit. you are clever. You twist and distort and dont run away until its highligheted and cant find an escape
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well slr2007 i have thought now for a while that you are a liberal backbencher, just don't have the guts to tell us!!!!! |
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By: monicaafryer
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| i gather ur 4 the republic so u can go as well why dont u take yourself & rudd 2 america. the queen may not have bled 4 us or the brits but they still love her. but Diana died, now her sons William & Harry will probably bleed 4 us instead Bring on King William drop Charles off with his castles, By the way Im an Aussie through n through. part english and part german heritage.and im proud.& b4 any1 makes any n a z i comments my mother and grandparents saved pilots during the war and one of them came to b the Police Commissioner of SA in the 50's. |
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By: slr2007mclaren
4 days ago (Monday, 3:33 pm) Yahoo! Profile:
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If you think I run away brosco
Please bring it up again
I will ALWAYS answer questions that's addressed to me when I see it
Like WB yesterday....all we see now is alot of accussations but no proof
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By: ol_whal
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| Guess what macca's doing Tuesday night |
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By: footbru
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As someone who has highlighted a factual innaccuracy of yours SLR, I was disappointed that, like Napier, you did not have the good grace to respond once it was well established that you were in error - remember the parliamentary "pairs"?
I have in my postings both admitted errors, and apologised - to Napier even, much to my annoyance, when I was in error.
When are you going to get of your high horse? (it's a wooden horse anyway!) |
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By: slr2007mclaren
4 days ago (Monday, 3:34 pm) Yahoo! Profile:
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not a backbencher casino....they don't get paid enough
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By: nichy1
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Advance Australia Fair was composed by Glasgow-born Peter Dodds McCormick (1834?-1916), who used the pen-name "Amicus", a Latin word meaning "friend".
The first public performance is thought to have been given in Sydney on November 30th (St Andrew's Day), 1878 at the St Andrew's Day concert of the Highland Society. The singer was a Mr Andrew Fairfax.
The song was later published by W.J. Paling and Company.
It was also sung by a choir of 10,000 at the inauguration of the Commonwealth of Australia (1 January 1901), with a few amendments by McCormick including the addition of the words "our youthful Commonwealth".
In 1907, the Australian Government - the Commonwealth Government of Australia - awarded McCormick £100 for his composition.
McCormick died in 1916. His obituary in The Sydney Morning Herald stated prophetically:
Mr. McCormick established a reputation with the patriotic song, "Advance Australia Fair", which [...] has come to be recognised as something in the nature of an Australian National Anthem.
The copyright on Advance Australia Fair ended in 1966, fifty years after McCormick's death.
The Australian Labor Party policy for the 1972 elections included finding an alternative to God Save the Queen. The ALP won office in that election, and the Whitlam government (1972-75) announced in the Prime Minister's 1973 Australia Day address that a competition would be held under the auspices of the Australia Council for the Arts to find a new Australian national anthem.
Although a large number of submissions were received (2,500 lyric and 1,400 music entries), none were considered acceptable.
The judges recommended that one of three existing Australian songs - Advance Australia Fair, Banjo Patterson's Waltzing Matilda or Carl Linger's Song of Australia - be selected.
On April 8th, 1974, opinion polls were held by the Australian Bureau of Statistics, and the government announced that henceforth Advance Australia Fair was to be Australi ... |
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By: nichy1
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On April 8th, 1974, opinion polls were held by the Australian Bureau of Statistics, and the government announced that henceforth Advance Australia Fair was to be Australia's anthem, but with God Save The Queen to be played when (British) royalty was present.
The Whitlam government was dismissed by the Governor-General (Sir John Kerr) on November 11, 1975, and was replaced by the Fraser (Liberal) government (1975-1983).
In January 1976, the Fraser government modified the rules governing the national anthem. Advance Australia Fair was to be used, without words, on non-regal occasions, and God save the Queen was to be used on all royal, vice-regal, defence, and loyal toast occasions.
The Fraser Government held a plebiscite, the National Song Poll, on 21 May 1977.
The results were: (from http://www.ausflag.com.au/debate/amr/amr23.html):
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Votes % (rounded)
First Past the Post:
Advance Australia Fair 2,940,854 43%
Waltzing Matilda 1,918,206 28%
God Save the Queen 1,257,341 19%
Song of Australia 652,858 10%
TOTAL 6,769,259 100%
After Distribution of Preferences:
Advance Australia Fair 4,415,642 65%
Waltzing Matilda 2,353,617 35%
TOTAL 6,769,259 100%
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Despite the poll results, adoption of the new anthem met with widespread opposition and obstruction.
Thus, it was not until 19th April, 1984 (in time for the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics) that Advance Australia Fair finally became Australia's national anthem, under the Hawke (Labor) government (1983-1991).
Advance Australia Fair was to be played at all official and ceremonial occasions; God Save the Queen became the "royal anthem", to be played when the Queen or members of the Royal Family are present. |
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By: slr2007mclaren
4 days ago (Monday, 3:44 pm) Yahoo! Profile:
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As someone who has highlighted a factual innaccuracy of yours SLR, I was disappointed that, like Napier, you did not have the good grace to respond once it was well established that you were in error - remember the parliamentary "pairs"?
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I understand the issue footbru
But the accussations in that thread was that Howard was heartless to the then Treasurer's family plight and did not approve the leave....
for those who missed it....I believe it was casino or WB who posted an "Opinion" piece where the then Treasurer's wife had a premature baby in October and was so worried for his wife that he wanted to go home to Perth to be with her and their pre-mature child...
BUT....the then Treasurer was also worried that if he left then the ALP would lose a vote on any issue....ie your voted is only counted if you were physically there
The then Treasurer approached Howard asking if the LIBs could sit one of their voting MP's out....Howard said no
My point is.....what was more important to the then ALP Treasurer?....his family or the vote?
Name me ANY event where there are 2 opposing teams and the opposising side sat out one of their players because the opposition side's wife had a baby?
So the thread itself was stupid at best to accuse Howard of being heartless when the then Treasurer viewed his political party as more important than his family...
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By: dsmithy70
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not a backbencher casino....they don't get paid enough
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Ex- minister perhaps with a liking for fishnets?
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By: slr2007mclaren
4 days ago (Monday, 3:50 pm) Yahoo! Profile:
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even they don't get paid enough dsmithy
;-)
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By: footbru
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SLR
You stated plainly that pairs never happened. I established they did. You went silent on that issue.
If you wish to once again open the thread as to whether what Howard did was the act of a mongrel (I don't even know why I bothered pointing it out) then I suggest you do so.
But the sub-issue which YOU opened within that thread was whether "pairs" happened - and I (and someone else) conclusively proved they did, to which you went completely silent. |
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By: footbru
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SLR
And I think that supports what Brosco is saying. |
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By: slr2007mclaren
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You stated plainly that pairs never happened. I established they did. You went silent on that issue.
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I don't believe I ever said that "pairs" never happened
I asserted that if the then Treasurer wanted to go home to Perth then he was free to do so...he does not need Howard's approval
He only approached Howard because he was more concerned about the ALP than his wife and child....further evidence of this was he only went home in December
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By: wilandbil
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It just goes to prove Whitlam , Frazer and Hawke had things in common, in this regard their musical appreciation is tasteless. Advance Australia Fair has it's origins in Europe and is a durge.
It could be said all three have their taste in their ice holes |
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By: footbru
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SLR
You asked me to provide two examples.
I provided more than that. You went silent.
http://au.messages.yahoo.com/news/politics/244237? p=2 |
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