By: mr_rekshun
19/10/2009
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| Oh well. Can't please everyone. |
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By: bahamian3002
19/10/2009
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Whatever you say, baha. You and I both know that a superiority complex is a personality flaw that we both share.
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Actually we probably both suffer from an inferiority complex, mine drives me to succeed and yours to write pretty but meaningless piffle! |
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By: foxdemonau
19/10/2009
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"I'm not sure about the racial tendencies per se, because I'm one of those people who believe that socio-economic conditions have a greater impact than genetic ones..."
Agreed to a degree. There certainly isn't any racial difference. Infact, geneticly Europeans and Semetic peoples are identical. As are all people outside of Africa. Most human genetic diversity is found in African populations. Supposed racial differences are beasts of the imagination.
As to the social-economic causes, I say maybe. Political causes are to my mind much more significant. Just consider white people. Political alligence can make them completely different in attitudes and thus behaviour, even if they are of the same socio-economic group (consider left wing and right wing middle class pinkies).
In regard to Muslims, there is much variation, as should be expected when talking about over a billion people. As it happens, I have more than a few Muslim friends, so I have an informed opinion on judgements about Muslims. Many that I know are very similar to Catholics. They are born into a religion but are otherwise just ordinary folk. They like face book, music and yoga. Just like Catholics, they don't like religious orthodox leaders telling them yoga is bad and don't use facebook.
On the other hand, once again just like Catholics, there are the religious nutters who like to impose their strict views on others. Most of my Muslims friends are Indonesian. They are not the religous nutter type. Curiously, Islam in Australia is stricter than the Indonesian version. There seems to be a higher proportion of nutters in this country and they have more influnence.
Not sure why that might be. |
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By: aussiearisen
19/10/2009
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"I'll endeavour, in future, to ensure that someone is entirely worthy of ridicule before I hit the smug button and start insulting"
NO NO ! Don`t do that! - you`ll show me up badly by comparison that way. |
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By: aussiearisen
19/10/2009
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Have to say I totally on the superficiality of racial / genetic diversity, in the overall scheme of things, nothing could really matter less.
As to religion, we may have a divisive issue with religion, or have we? My GP for instance is an Iranian Muslim, and I wouldn`t think of changing doctors, conversely, there are alarm bells ringing world wide on these divisive issues.
Re population maximums, what really is the maximum sustainable population for Australia? |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
19/10/2009
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Re population maximums, what really is the maximum sustainable population for Australia?
The answer to that question would depend who you asked, but if 'sustainable' is considered to be the number of people who could live off the nett produce of the country, it would undoubtedly be well under 20 million. My guestimate of the optimum is about 4 million. |
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By: aussiearisen
19/10/2009
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| When climate change reaches it`s maximum effect? - Another giant question mark! |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
19/10/2009
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When climate change reaches it`s maximum effect? - Another giant question mark!
Maybe not ..... we are already past the point of being able to feed our population with locally produced food . There is a risk that once the north pole ice has gone, temperature rise will destroy the viability of much of our remaining farmland. In this scenario, mass starvation could well solve the climate change issue by reducing population dramatically. |
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By: reidsays@y7mail.com
19/10/2009
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Hasn't Australia got a major problem with the loss of topsoil?
Once gone....gone .....and hard to replace to it's former state? |
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By: jaykaye_09
19/10/2009
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| Maybe if we thought about building up a bit more than building out. Perhaps encouraged landowners to become more self sufficient in terms of managing their environment (hahaha). |
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By: dallone.ranger
19/10/2009
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You mean like the land owners in Arnhem land in the NT? Or the rest of the 50% of the NT which is owned by Ab?
Encourage them to become more self sufficient, just as the missionaries did many years ago before the advent of 'self determination' brought it all to a grinding halt.
Or perhaps you mean something else in your naivety. |
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By: jaykaye_09
19/10/2009
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| Naivety? What are you on about? |
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By: reidsays@y7mail.com
20/10/2009
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jaykaye "Maybe if we thought about building up a bit more than building out. Perhaps encouraged landowners to become more self sufficient in terms of managing their environment (hahaha)."
Well actually..the funding is going into previously denied 'sustainability ethics' now Jaykaye
Perhaps too late, as it so often goes:( |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
20/10/2009
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Hasn't Australia got a major problem with the loss of topsoil?
Once gone....gone .....and hard to replace to it's former state?
What topsoil ?? That all got blown into the pacific ocean earlier this month |
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By: dallone.ranger
20/10/2009
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Perhaps encouraged landowners to become more self sufficient in terms of managing their environment (hahaha).
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Naivety? What are you on about?
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You mean like the land owners in Arnhem land in the NT? Or the rest of the 50% of the NT which is owned by Ab?
Encourage them to become more self sufficient, just as the missionaries did many years ago before the advent of 'self determination' brought it all to a grinding halt.
I am presuming that you, like most with no real knowledge of Ab in the north, have some fairytale belief that they are great land managers and that the only reason they cannot provide for themselves in 2009, even though they hold the majority of the land up here, is because we, white people, are somehow preventing them from doing so.
That is the naivety I am referring to. However I will stand corrected if wrong. |
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By: jaykaye_09
20/10/2009
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'I am presuming that you, like most with no real knowledge of Ab in the north, have some fairytale belief that they are great land managers and that the only reason they cannot provide for themselves in 2009, even though they hold the majority of the land up here, is because we, white people, are somehow preventing them from doing so'
-dallone.ranger
You're way off the mark.
I meant landowners, including those in the city, would be better served by a degree of self sufficiency. To instill in them a knowledge of how to best utilise the land they're living on (which in many cases, especially throughout the suburbs, is completely wasted).
I made my comment in the context of population and resource use - not race. |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
20/10/2009
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I meant landowners, including those in the city, would be better served by a degree of self sufficiency. To instill in them a knowledge of how to best utilise the land they're living on (which in many cases, especially throughout the suburbs, is completely wasted).
You'd need to first educate city dwellers about where vegetables really come from ie NOT in a plastic packet in the Coles freezer |
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By: dallone.ranger
21/10/2009
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
21/10/2009
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| I totally agree that we currently have an untenable situation with indigenous folk in most states but particularly so in the NT. The welfare system clearly doesn't work. On the other hand, those people lived here for thousands (millions ??) of years before whiteman came to stuff the country. Seems to me that if we butted out & left them fend for themselves without our 'assistance' then we'd all be a lot better off. |
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By: dallone.ranger
21/10/2009
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""Seems to me that if we butted out & left them fend for themselves without our 'assistance' then we'd all be a lot better off.""
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Ahhh, good plan. |
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