By: weshomy
7/05/2008
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| This Counrty is concidering a repulic WHY??? it will cost us billions and not to mention the history we r made under.. so of my family fought in wars for this country and most never returned, if we cut ties with england and OUR FLAG we loose that, think of the millions of families that have sons fighting for the flag, meaning not only for australia but our QUEEN. we wont have her if we become republic... why does anyone want it |
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By: nasty_neocon
7/05/2008
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| God and i thought only old people and those with serious inferiority complexes got all worked up and excited over the royal family... |
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By: southerncrossforever
7/05/2008
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| we need to be republic asap with the southern cross as our flag in black white and teal blue.... |
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By: greatgranswisdom
7/05/2008
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Can't say I get all worked up and excited over the royal family...but the current system works fine, and I'm comfortable with, and proud of, the Australian flag.
These are pure irrelevances in the quest by many to take over Australia.....a republic will make it a little easier.
Not that it's not going to inevitably happen.......just hang on for ten years and it may forstall the inevitable take over by others.
As for the English Queen, she's a dirt cheap head of state....even flies out here in a first class seat on a scheduled commercial flight.....while the presidents of banana republics and pop singers fly here in there own jets.
The Sultan of Brunei needed six of his own 747's to come here with his entourage and half a dozen of his wives. |
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By: reidsays
7/05/2008
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hehe, greetings ggw:)O
i have often wished the people of australia would approach the Queen over the child abuse arena here....the constitution does allow for that...
sort of a clayton's constitution though...bit like the bible...people take out what they want and ignore the rest...
but i agree.... a republic stance is inevitable, yet what will be put in place will not be what the majority think it will be:( |
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By: greatgranswisdom
7/05/2008
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| Hi reid...may respectfully refer you to as a "link" person?...i.e., a person who engages in intelligent discussion with persons from all sides....a rarity on these boards. |
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By: bias0007
7/05/2008
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<< yet what will be put in place will not be what the majority think it will be:( >>
You got it again reids |
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By: reidsays
7/05/2008
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aw gee thanks ggw and bias.....i appreciate both you posters being around... cosy to have familiar names with enquiring and questioning minds!!!
a link person???....hhmmm...alwa ys have seen both sides to any story.....you really mean there aren't many around ggw?
often feel it gets me stuck in the middle .....in exasperation that....people just cannot see outside their own agenda???
cheers to both of you
reidy |
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By: yodaiz
7/05/2008
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It can be quite simple and cheap to be a Republic.
We call the Govenor General our President and voila'we have a republic
No need to change the system in any other way.
The media will push for presidential elections because it means more revenue for them. |
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By: wtf_gf
7/05/2008
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| we need a republic please!!!!! :):) |
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By: remember_when64
7/05/2008
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No problem with becoming a republic, see it as being inevitable. What p1sses me off is the agenda of the majority of people pushing it and the message they push.
What's wrong with saying "thanks for the ride and the support but time we stood for ourselves" rather than the *** ing. |
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By: reidsays
8/05/2008
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remember...."What's wrong with saying "thanks for the ride and the support but time we stood for ourselves" rather than the *** ing."
what bloody ride!!!!
aussies have done it on their own for eons....have run overseas to assist when asked and then told no when they need help.....locally:(
once over the huge inferiority complex...THEN we can say we are an independent nation without need of mommy england and daddy america.....although still retaining blood ties:)
one big huge pyramid traversing the world map.....england - america - and australia....
will the pyramid be broken???
with a republic? |
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By: bulldoost
8/05/2008
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do not fix if ain't broken...
work as it is? sort of? leave it alone! |
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By: peaceleo69
9/05/2008
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http://au.news.yahoo.com/080508/2/16s7a.html
Friday May 9, 12:11 AM
ARM hits out at republic poll
The republican movement has criticised a poll showing support for an Australian republic with an elected president has dropped to its lowest level in 15 years.
The Roy Morgan poll of 650 Australians taken last weekend, reveals 45 per cent of Australians favoured a republic with an elected head of state, down six per cent since February 2005.
Forty-two per cent supported the constitutional monarchy, up two per cent over the same period, and 13 per cent were undecided, up four per cent.
The results put support for a republic at its lowest ebb since former prime minister Paul Keating first raised the issue in December 1993, pollster Gary Morgan said.
The Australian Republican Movement (ARM) said the poll only asked people whether they wanted a republic with a directly elected president, which sidelines republicans who support a different model.
"It's simply wrong to use this poll, which is highly skewed towards one particular republican model, to suggest support for an Australian republic is declining," ARM chair, Major General Mike Keating said.
"The Australia 2020 Summit showed that there is a groundswell of support to make the formal move to full sovereignty under an Australian republic."
Australians for Constitutional Monarchy seized on the Roy Morgan poll, arguing support for a republic had collapsed among young Australians.
"All the signs are that the government will put republic *** m on the back burner as (federal opposition treasury spokesman) Malcolm Turnbull already has," Australians for a Constitutional Monarchy convenor, David Flint said.
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looks like Howard is still influencing the polling.
Like was stated by the ARM before-we need two referendums-if we are to sort it out.
First ask people IF they want a republic-if the majority says YES-we vote on which type-if NO-finished-no other vote! |
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By: bored.bored74
9/05/2008
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| NO REPUBLIC |
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By: andy_unreasonable
9/05/2008
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reidsays wrote:- >>>aussies have done it on their own for eons....have run overseas to assist when asked and then told no when they need help.....locally:(
once over the huge inferiority complex...THEN we can say we are an independent nation without need of mommy england and daddy america.....although still retaining blood ties:)
one big huge pyramid traversing the world map.....england - america - and australia....
will the pyramid be broken???
with a republic?<<<
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Agree wholeheartedly, reidsy.
So many seem to have this inferiority complex, combined with a huge chip on their shoulder.
Australia is now, and always has been, since the day of Federation, a Nation of it's own. Beholden to nobody, except for political expediency. |
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By: yodaiz
9/05/2008
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| If we go with the elected President model I am against a republic, if we simply just call the Governor General a President, I'm for a republic. |
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By: srvjau
9/05/2008
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| Stay as you are and have some say in your own affairs until a monarchist poodle decides to cry to the GG and ultimately old blighty to change things or become a republic and be bullied even more by whichever president is running the US at the time. Either way, Australia is going to need someone with cojones to stand up to the powers that be and decide what's good or bad for this country without the interference of outsiders |
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By: reidsays
14/05/2008
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srvjau..." Either way, Australia is going to need someone with cojones to stand up to the powers that be and decide what's good or bad for this country without the interference of outsiders"
think it goes a wee bit beyond ONE leader being able to do anything..
..world far too complex now and whoever 'heads' is the front person.....with an infrastructure of 'public servants' knowing far more than the 'newly elected'???
party politics and centuries old 'associations'...
not to mention the power of global corporations!!
the 'outsiders' are now the 'insiders':( |
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By: pathos065
15/05/2008
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| Any postion on a Republic is based on emotion and not on practicalities, it serves no purpose and has no purpose, it is an exercise in fog and mirrors to apease the people that want change for change sake! |
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By: cookeetree
15/05/2008
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we need to be republic asap...
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I love this type of argument. "We NEED it."
Why?
Where's your reasoning for NEEDing to be a republic?
What is it going to achieve that the current system doesn't?
What tangible benefit will it have to the people of this country?
Until someone can explain to me why we NEED to become a Republic, you can shove it up your you-know-where. |
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By: asiocia
15/05/2008
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| Could anyone give an indication what it will cost to become a Republic in the full sense of the word and all its implications |
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By: buzzanddidj
15/05/2008
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'Any postion on a Republic is based on emotion and not on practicalities'
Nor does moving out of our child-hood home
It is something,though, we all have to do at some stage of our lives though
If just to maintain our dignity, self-respect and independance
It may be an emotional issue, but an essentially human one
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By: buzzanddidj
15/05/2008
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'Could anyone give an indication what it will cost to become a Republic in the full sense of the word and all its implications'
About the same as a company re-structure and logo change
Simply, this is all it is
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