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By: deemarion_z
5/12/2007
7:15 pm

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yes, draconian legislation is here to stay. when will people do their own research and stop being led by the nose? why would any sane person poison the whole state?
Just review the toxicology departments of the major universities to find out the latest studies on this subject.

By: helpstopthenwo
5/12/2007
7:20 pm

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Flouride does NOTHING to prevent tooth decay in people over 8. Flouride was first used by the nazis in ww2 for its mind control properties. Flouride inhibits brain function and keeps people dumbed down and docile. Do some research and as deemarion says, check out the recent studies form the toxicology departments of the major universities.

This legislation is wholly evil. Time to buy bottled water folks.

By: msjacqui45
5/12/2007
7:30 pm

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Why hasn"t this gone to a public referendum / vote why are Mayors and other Politicians allowed to enact laws into our society that are plain wrong. Fluroide tastes terrible it smells and it corrodes Electrical equipment such as Electric Kettles and other utensils used for water.
Never mind the damage it does to other organs in the human body.. Drs and Dentists use floride sparingly in small dose's we are talking Flouride in huge quantities being put into our water supplys.. Its bad enough now with the drought and water tasting like a sewer in our water mains Ive been reduced to buying bottled water and it looks like it will be an on going situation do you think the Queensland Govt will compentsate me for protecting myself against being poisoned by them? I dont think so... Anna Bligh rethink this issue please!!!

By: howeraymond
5/12/2007
7:39 pm

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I could not beleive it ! I was beging to think I was living in a dictatorship country when our councils were taken away now I know it is true . What a shame it is going to be in a few years time there will be a legarcy of bone cancer in young boys , mental problems , brittle bones in old people , just to mention a few things that will happen , and I know that the Gov. will have it so that you will not be able to sue anyone when things go wrong ! WAKE UP QUEENSLANDERS !!

By: helpstopthenwo
5/12/2007
7:46 pm

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My letter to the premier... (i borrowed some of ur post deem)



My Dear Premier

Your flouride legislation is draconian and wholly evil. In fact it is bordering on insanity.

Why on EARTH would any supposedly sane person poison the entire state? I suggest you review the toxicology departments of the major universities to find out the latest studies on this subject. Flouride does NOTHING to prevent tooth decay in people over 8. Flouride was first used by the nazis in ww2 and is well known for its mind control properties. Flouride inhibits brain function and keeps people dumbed down and docile. The peope of queensland will not stand for this and you will be out on your ear come the next election.

If you go through with this, then I intend to make a great deal of public noise on the topic and I intend to place you squarely in the firing line.

sincerely
blah blah blah


I suggest you all do the same.

By: egyptianaussie
5/12/2007
8:04 pm

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Why do we all have to pay to be poisoned by this fluoride. Fluoride is available in tablet form if parents are so worried about the health of their children's teeth. And may I dare to suggest that the problem with decay in the teeth of children probably has more to do with the fruit juices that parents feed their children from a very young age and the soft drinks that children constantly demand and consume. Do the state government think we will accept anything they say. Vote No in the news poll and vote lots.

By: sumo_cerberus_sumo
5/12/2007
8:32 pm

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The nazi's used fluoride to kill jews in the war and they used it to kill my uncle,and they now want us to drink it in the water,it makes me wonder if the government in australia has become nazi with there forcing us to drink it in water,its so wrong and the people will let it happen as they are too scared to stop the government from doing it,if all the people went on strike till the government did as the people want is the way to go,we all go on strike,but most people beleive it is good for you,so it will happen unless we really stand up and say no,but the people will not do that as they have lost it.

By: helpstopthenwo
5/12/2007
8:35 pm

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write to the premier and urge everybody you know to do the same. Organize truck blockades, workers strikes, flouride information leaflet letterbox drops.... ANYTHING we can do to stop this MUST BE DONE!

By: rmanabat001
5/12/2007
8:40 pm

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It's being forced on queensland which is what I don't like. (It would be another thing altogether if people had a choice to say no, but regardless you will be FORCED to drink this 5h1+ )

It's not a big secret that there are those that actually wish to slowly depopulate the globe through diseases and wars because the powerful are threatened by your existence so they sneak in as much new laws as they can thinking that they can control the very people that put them into the place they are now. Would it alarm people to know that some of the worst threats to humanity like aids were experiments by the government on selected groups of people? (gays, blacks) They do not care about your health and never did. In fact the opposite is true because they band together to discuss how they can reduce the human population over time and remind you constantly that your world is overpopulated and you are a burden to society for living.

This need to fluoridate the water is the same thing: dumb the masses so they are not a threat. The nazi scientists of WWII were secretly taken by the US to work for them. This is why the "war against the greater population by those in power/intellectual elite" still goes on and you should always look closely to see what measures these snakes have taken to prevent you from enjoying clean and pollution free life. Control your brain and they control you.

I'm glad that as time goes on more people are waking up and exposing these liars. Bans need to be put on the pollution of the water supplies if you don't want to be the one to foot the bill to pay for all the bone cancer patients in the future who will be unable to pay to for treatment for the disease. You've got to challenge these people on every attempt they make to force this garbage into your body or you will pay the cost financially and personally through diseases you will get. Some of the most educated geniuses can also be the most insane, malicious, cunning and emotionless people out the ...

By: dancingmargymay
5/12/2007
8:55 pm

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I cannot believe the amount of stupid people there are in this state. If they have seen what I have seen - eg 2,3,4,5,6,etc year olds with a mouthful of rotten teeth, having to have an unecessary general anaesthetic then perhaps they would think again. I have seen the difference in my two children. The older one was born in Victoria and spent time in NSW before moving up here. The youngest, was born o\in NSW but has spent most of her life in QLD and has far more fillings than her brother. I myself, am sensitive to fluoride tablets - I break out in hives. However the amount in the water is so miniscule that I do NOT react to it. I applaud Anna Blyth for her sensible, not draconian decision.
margymay

By: sumo_cerberus_sumo
5/12/2007
8:55 pm

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yep thats right we should all get together and form a mob of people who would be willing to go on strike and make this change how would it be if we got some doctors on side and they joined in an this strike,and the rubbish collectors,and it would not take long to bring this government to a stand still,and make them change there minds about putting this poison in the water,bring this place to a stand still and they will have to change there ways.

By: rmanabat001
5/12/2007
9:01 pm

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made a typo:
the = there.

Really try not to think of the people having power, (in a democracy) rather it's the people's powers the government uses to benefit the powerful. (by spinning things to their personal benefit in some way)

It's you versus them, not them versus an outside threat or opposition they identified for you. That problem they identified for you to need solving was just the excuse to implement new draconic powers that come at your expense.
They'll just keep pushing the same issue regardless of faulty logic, because there is actual benefit, actual profit from death. (we would never have fought in any war, built nukes, put people in concentration camps, come up with ideas on torture etc) is people didn't just let it happen and bought the lie, and ignorant of the nature of the people pushing these crazy ideas upon society at large. Those people are the most dangerous people alive because they were allowed to introduce such nonsense on the strength of people's ignorance. (don;t think they don't know what they are doing is wrong or that they don't know it is toxic, the real intent is experiment on you, depopulate the human race, and gradually take all kinds of individual rights and freedoms in the hope you are scared of an outside threat to want to come to them for false peace and security - usually involving them coming up with a solution involving death, going to war, introduce nuclear power, polluting water, bringing about droughts to control the food supply, using smartcard technology to make it easy to steal information illegally and allow individuals to be profiled.. etc the list goes on) All of those things will keep being pushed until you give up and say no. It's not about whether it's right or wrong, but a question of them having an excuse to bring those measures in to gradually control people. (the excuse doesn't have to hold water just be the means to an end) Yes you may think you live free, but if you don't fight for it, you don't dese ...

By: sumo_cerberus_sumo
5/12/2007
9:03 pm

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well dancing if you buy pills and they make you crook because it is not good for you,and it builds up in your body over time and I have never had fluoride,and my teeth are fine,perfect in fact, I dont eat sugar though,and you go and eat a handfull of fluoride pills and see who wakes up dead real fast,you will as it is poison and will kill you dont beleive me just do it and find out for yourself,but just in case be close to hospital so they can help get it out of you ,but you will still die,it will kill you.

By: helpstopthenwo
5/12/2007
9:11 pm

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You are extremely misinformed margymay, flouride does NOTHING to prevent tooth decay in persons over 8 years of age and causes a myriad of problems it later life such as brittle bones. Flouride was first used by the nazis to keep the prisoners docile and is well known for ts mind control properties. I very much suggest you do some research.

By: rmanabat001
5/12/2007
9:11 pm

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..deserve it.

I love the strawman that was created: you won't glow in the dark. Heh, if it was that obvious, we would have those people hidden away from view so as not to make those who introduced the idea look stupid. That's how people who intend to dumb you down would go about it. :D "Quick look over your shoulder!" *moves the glowing person to a location away from public* And if that doesn't work, pay some spin doctor to blame it on climate change or kids sitting too close to tv or something.

By: adelcrow47
5/12/2007
10:46 pm

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Fluoride has been added to the drinking water in Adelaide for decades and has been a god send to the teeth of the present generation. We dont have a higher rate of brittle bones than anywhere else or any other diseases that might be blamed on fluoride for that matter. I work in the water industry here and know first hand that the addition of fluoride is constantly monitored, studied and controlled.

By: andy_unreasonable
5/12/2007
10:48 pm

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You get what you vote for.

Nobody wanted Labor in again, but somehow we got the mongrels!

Premier Pete, saying, "I'm so sorry (again!), I know I've stuffed up (again!), I won't do it (again!), I'll fix it all up (again!) - (no, no scratch that bit) - I promise to work even harder than before (again!), I know we have the worst Health system in the World (still!), we hired that killer Doctor Patel, and we've done all these horrible, horrible things, but PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, give us another chance!

And somehow enough morons voted for them, and they got in!

Pete quickly threw off the reins, and ran for his life, now you are stuck with the grinning head!

Well, you get the Government you vote for.

Merry Christmas.

By: helpstopthenwo
5/12/2007
11:01 pm

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Fluoride has been added to the drinking water in Adelaide for decades and has been a god send to the teeth of the present generation.
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But the scientific fact of the matter is that it only works for baby teeth which all fall out anyway and are replaced with adult teeth which it has absolutely no effect on. Flouride does not prevent tooth decay. Regular brushing and Dental care does that.

By: davidmkinley
6/12/2007
12:09 am

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One truly amazing thing about this compulsory medication is the extraordinary method of administering it.
The amount of fluoride needed to medicate the under-8 population is not huge.
But the amount used is stupendous, because the water supply is used, so that everyone drinks it,cars are washed with it, gardens watered, buildings washed , showers, baths, planes, trains are washed roads, manufacturing industry guzzle this magic medication.

You have to think this is an awfully cheap medication!
And you have to wonder what bargain price was got, to be able to afford to splash this decay preventer simply everywhere!

Now I wonder where it comes from, it's almost like it's just lying around in unwanted piles!

By: fantacious2000
6/12/2007
12:29 am

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I don't know much about fluoride to have an opinion either way. However, in the area that I live in there are two councils.

In one area there is fluoride in the water,
in the other area, where I live there isn't.
the area that has those with fewer dental problems? The area with the fluoride in their water.

By: helpstopthenwo
6/12/2007
12:29 am

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Well, you get the Government you vote for.
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I didnt vote for the lunatic b!tch thats doing this.... did you?

By: davidmkinley
6/12/2007
12:44 am

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In one area there is fluoride in the water,
in the other area, where I live there isn't.
the area that has those with fewer dental problems? The area with the fluoride in their water.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<,

fantacious, that's certainly relevant data; but obviously not significant in itself, any more than if result was reversed.
(other factors e.g. income levels; source of data; other councils) but I guess you realise all that! and maybe more info will come in on these lines.

By: fantacious2000
6/12/2007
1:08 am

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well the income level of the council that has fluoride is lower than the one that doesn't.

By: davidmkinley
6/12/2007
1:16 am

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yep. still wonder where they get it

By: tonegunman1
6/12/2007
8:12 am

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<<In one area there is fluoride in the water,
in the other area, where I live there isn't.
the area that has those with fewer dental problems? The area with the fluoride>>

fantacious - Who says?

In NSW there is a big push on to fluoridate many parts of NSW that are unfluoridated. There regions are reported in every instance as having the worst teeth in NSW by NSW Health - including ours.
If however you look and actually find the data then our area, when compared to Sydney (100% fluoridated) has better permanent teeth than all but North Sydney - by .05 DMFT (decayed missing and filled teeth) - that's .05% and we have much better teeth as an area than the south and western suburbs.

Levels of income have a much greater correlation with dental health than anything else.

Most of the research that is done in Australia is at the University of Adelaide under Professor John Spencer (a pro-fluoridationist).
The University of Adelaide has a joint venture in the dental school with Colgate.

Now there's objectivity for you.
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