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By: mel_paul11
6/06/2008
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hey kristy, thanks for letting us know about the course!
I am in kal and considering applying for it, it would be a great help if you could please email me some tips on the selection process, eg any questions they asked in the interview? i am not so good with interviews so a little heads up would help me alot! my email is mel-paul@hotmail.com Thanks heaps! maybe in exchange i can help you in some way? like give you some tips on how to get accepted for accom in kal? incase KCGM are not looking at fly in fly out. |
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By: mel_paul11
6/06/2008
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| Hi belinda, the qfs course in kalgoorlie is a bit more than the one held in perth, as it goes for an extra day. I went to an info session and they said about $3900, but i would have to double check where i wrote it down. |
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By: distinctivelyauri
7/06/2008
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im looking for work in the mines . im a 27 year old attractive young lady , im a 2nd yr advanced chef .
aint found any work in the mines yet , but i aint giving up yet .
can you help ?
do you want to hire me ?
do you have a lead which may help me find a job in minesite catering as a young chef in WA ?
email me on litulano@hotmail.com
p.s cool thread guys hope you all find what your looking for and me included hehe
peace love and all that stuff lol
signing out goddess of pleasure signed in on mates pcx as distinctivelyauri |
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By: nzer57
9/06/2008
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The hype around the mining ind in WA especially is just that a lot of hype. There are very few jobs that actually pay truelly big money. The exceptions are specialist roles such as geologists, engineers etc. The trades guys can often get the same or near same money in the major centers. Non trade jobs are generally not that well paid but there are a few exceptions.
Above the tropic of capricorn the summer temps are blistering - 50C in the shade and 60C+ in the open.
Recruiting agencies.
Beware of these. If you absolutely need to get your foot in the door to get experience then they may be your only option but contractors use labor from recruiters as a last resort to man up. They are the first to get dropped as a project winds down. Even if your recruited directly by the company projects only last from weeks to several months. Then your back hunting for work again.
So called training schools. Almost all are a waste of time. The major companies have their favourites who they accept quals from. For example I did a confined space with a painter whose company did shut downs. He was on his 3rd CS in 8 months!!!
Getting a start is more about WHO you know than what you know. It can take months of applying to get selected then even when you do it can be weeks even months before they actually start you.
The industry is populated by contract firms who supply services to each other and the big mining companies. There's usually several in each field all paying differently and with differing levels of worker satisfaction. Some are out right rogues.
The work is long hours, hard, hot and dirty in many cases with little opportunity for recreation. Many camps have serious problems with drinking and fighting. The long hours and long work periods take their toll on most workers after a while. Many workers in the camps I see are often like zombies by the end of their stints. You need to be mentally tuff and resilient to handle most jobs for long periods in the conditi ... |
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By: rygar069
9/06/2008
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The deal with mining positions in WA is basically the same wherever you go in Australia...it is a question of QUALIFICATIONS!!!
If you have relevant qualifications, you are likely to pick up a job very quickly.
ie a trade certificate (mechanic, electrician, boilermaker etc), relevant university degree professional qualifications (engineering, metallurgist etc), relevant TAFE or other professional association type qualifications (shotfirer's ticket, dogman's ticket for crane operations etc.)
It also helps if you have done an industry recognised induction course (eg MARCSTA) and a senior first aid ticket.
Generic positions requiring little or no qualifications might include catering, cleaning, tending the wetmess bar etc.
Positions of this sort are generally contracted externally via catering companies (eg Spotless, Nationwide, ESS, TMS) or sometimes advertised in local townsites on noticeboards etc.
ie THEY ARE NOT EASY TO COME BY!!!
Plant Operator and Haulpak driver type roles are generally taken by those with long term industry experience in similar roles. These people generally start in unqualified positions, hear of an internal vacancy on site with the relevant contractor company, have relevant heavy vehicle licences etc, and go talk directly with the appropriate onsite people.
You basically need to prove your worth and commitment first, and then hopefully sweet talk your way into a role should an opportunity arise.
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By: rygar069
9/06/2008
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As a general rule - without tickets or qualifications - best place to start is probably gonna be with one of the contract catering companies.
Another avenue to explore is through temporary labour hire recruitment agencies (eg Extraman). These companies usually have a few generic type roles (eg laboratory sample prep) for which they can provide a limited measure of training through metro based facilities before dispatching to remote areas for short term casual employment contracts. Be wary though – some of these agencies can be pretty shoddy!
It definitely helps if you know someone in the industry who can provide a suitable reference...even if only as a character reference!
With generic unqualified positions you basically need to be able to drop anything and everything for an IMMEDIATE start.
This is probably why most people don’t get a response from companies they contact about such roles – in most cases any such roles have usually been filled before they even get to be advertised!
As a general rule – mining companies will not pay relocation expenses or FIFO costs if you cant offer them qualifications or significant relevant industry experience in return.
Many people take a chance and hope for the best - relocate up north, make a few friends, hear of a suitable role becoming available etc.
The trick is being able to support yourself in the meantime…and with cost of living expenses in remote areas being what they are, this is a BIG CONSIDERATION!!!
People need to remember – remote area employment is generally HOT, DIRTY, DUSTY, REPETITIVE WORK for LONG HOURS sometimes in DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENTS in remote locations with little in the way of recreational facilities…with the exception of the wet mess :)
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By: rygar069
9/06/2008
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Almost all sites have gyms and other sporting or recreational facilities, but you gotta balance this against work hours (at least 12hrs/day) and sleep (8hrs/day). Obviously by the time you’ve eaten, taken care of necessary ablutions etc, you don’t have a lot of spare time to enjoy the serenity :p
It generally takes a very disciplined individual to stick it out long term ( >1-2yrs).
This type of employment (esp FIFO) is also not considered conducive to maintaining a healthy relationship with the better half back home…unless you can get them a job working alongside you as well!
Good luck to those wanting to obtain a career in minerals/mining :) |
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11/06/2008
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By: sweetmeek74
13/06/2008
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Hey rygar...My hubby has just quit working in Mines in WA after 4 very long years!!!! I totally agree with what you said in regards to Mine working conditions and areas...and the hard factor in maintaining any kind of healthy relationship with wife,girlfriend,children or whoever...my hubby and I certainly had our ups and downs but what it always came back to was knowing he loved us beyond his own desires and being secure in our love and not taking on other peoples views or condemnation...LOVE really does conquer all. As much as I dont agree with a family being seperated for money reasons,I had to allow his journey and trust he would get the truth in the end...that money isnt above family or love. It has taken 4 bloody years for him to see that and I wouldnt change any of it for the deepness of love,thankfullness and respect we now have toward each other...but I dont believe its a good thing for families to do if it means alot of time apart...kids really struggle...our 8yr old daughter carried the rejection of her dad being away but thank God she has healed and it isnt too late. I would say to anyone considering Mining work to be aware of what challenges you and your family may face ahead and be prepared to work through them as they arise. Dont allow the love of money to destroy the precious gift of the family you have been blessed with. Yes eveyone is different but I just wanted to share our truth with the Mining work experience.
Blessings...Jodes :o) |
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By: sweetmeek74
13/06/2008
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Hey Smithy...try Thiess...my Hubby worked for them in Mines in Newman and Ravensthorpe in WA for 4yrs. They very good company.
Blessings...Jodes |
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By: kieranweston
16/06/2008
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| Hi Mate I saw your response to a blokes questions on working in the mining industry mate I have never worked in the game but I need to work fast and I need to hear it from someone who knows the game. I am getting my HR license real keen to work on heavy transport or labouring whatever as long as I get a foot in the door then the rest is up to me. |
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By: getfreetotallylegitstuff
18/06/2008
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| I LIVE IN HAWAII (USA) AND WANT TO WORK IN THE MINING INDUSTRY IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA. I PLAN TO GET A WORKING VISA AND STAY WITH MY AUNTY WHO LIVES IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA. SHE SAYS THAT ON TELEVISION THE MINING INDUSTRY ARE LOOKING FOR SEVERAL THOUSAND WORKERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD. 2 YEARS AGO THE STARTING YEARLY WAGE WAS $69,OOO.OO FOR A LABORER. I HAVE MANY AUNTIES AND COUSINS WHO LIVE IN AUSTRALIA. I PLAN ON WORKING THERE AND THEN APPLY FOR CITIZENSHIP THERE. DURING COLLEGE I WORKED FOR A SMALL REFRIGERATION COMPANY, LEARNING HOW TO REPAIR, PAINT, CLEAN AND RECONDITION USED REFRIGERATORS AND FREEZERS AND SELLING THEM. AFTER COLLEGE I HAVE WORKED FOR PACIFIC RENT-ALL HERE IN HAWAII, GOOD YEAR TIRE AND RUBBER COMPANY ALSO KNOWN AS GOOD YEAR GEMINI AUTO CARE AND I AM NOW CURRENTLY WORKING AS A MECHANIC HELPER FOR A CONSTURCTION COMPANY HERE IN HAWAII. MY DUTIES ARE TO HELP THE MECHANICS, PERFORM MINOR REPAIRS, FUEL AND GREASE EPUIPMENT AND MACHINERY, SERVICE POWER TOOLS AND OTHER SMALL EQUIPMENT AND RUN ERRANDS. I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THIS FIELD FOR FOUR YEARS NOW. I HAVE TAKEN ONE YEAR OF WELDING AND SHEET METAL FABRICATION AND COMPLETED TWO YEARS OF AUTOMOTIVE MECHANICS TECHNOLOGY IN HAWAII COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW DO I GO ABOUT THE PROCESS OF GETTING INTO THE MINING INDUSTRY, GETTING A WORK VISA AND WORKING THERE IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA. I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO WORK IN AUSTRALIA AND LIVE THERE. I FIGURED THAT SINCE I'M 28 AND GOING ON 29 IN OCTOBER I SHOULD HURRY UP AND FOLLOW MY DREAMS OF WORKING AND LIVING THERE IN AUSTRALIA. IF ANYONE CAN HELP I WOULD APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. |
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By: gailmagee
23/06/2008
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i think most of guys are getting sucked into these so called courses that cost a fortune all you need is
an HR blue card and be alcohol and drug free |
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By: anthonycunningham@rocketmail.com
27/06/2008
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Hi all
I am an interstate truck driver in queensland and at the moment i drive b-doubles and b-triples throughout queensland. if you think you guys are having a hard time getting into the mines i have sent so many applications to companys to do road train driving which i am quaified to do and dont get any responese. if any knows off some in WA who is loooking for a roadtrain qualified driver and who is willing to fly to perth on my own back please let me know
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By: tactronic1
30/06/2008
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Hey guys.
I live in Adelaide and I'm looking to get a high paid job in the mines. I don't have any qualifications. I'm willing to do a course or get a license etc, but don't want to spend much money without a reasonable chance of getting a job out of it. I found this company called hogan mining (www.hogan-mining.com.au) who look pretty professional and say they will give you all the info and help you need to find a job, but they charge $214 for the info up front so I'm a bit wary as to whether they are genuine or not. Does anyone know? Have you used their info or got a job through them? I can't seem to find the address they listed in the whitepages online. I'm also considering the ebook for $30 which a few people on here have suggested at www.getajobinthemines.co. nz
I'd like to drive a big dump truck or something like that, but I'd try something more physical if necessary. I'm not all that strong or fit but I'd be willing to put up with long hours considering the money involved, and I'm sure I'd get fitter and stronger in time as long as I could handle the work initially
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By: rygar069
5/07/2008
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Hi tactronic1 :)
Re: Hogan Mining and others making similar claims.
Like anything, anywhere...if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!
Apparently there is a sucker born every minute and fools only seem too glad to be parted from their money.
MOST reputable recruitment agencies charge the client company a commission for a set length of time for placing a contractor into a position on a site.
Doesnt it seem strange to you that someone says here I can help you earn a squillion bucks but only if you pay me upfront??? Have you ever heard of Nigerian bank email scams??? Doesnt this sound familiar???
Please take a moment to check out the detailed responses left by myself & many others here in this forum who have/do work in the mining industry.
Without qualifications, you will find it extremely difficult to secure a position in mining.
Like with most employment sectors - if you havent got relevant qualifications to offer an employer or something else that makes you stand out from the thousands of other applicants, you arent likely to get offered a job.
Get some qualifications, do the courses, make a zillion job applications, be persistent, and keep positive & upbeat about your chances!
Sooner or later, someone will see your potential and offer you a role.
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By: pnelmali
6/07/2008
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| I'm also seeking employment in Australia, currently working in Ghana as a Product Support Specialist on surface mining drill rigs, I've been sending applications for obtaining a work permit/visa all over the country and to date - No Luck, maybe you can direct me to the right people, good luck with your search (pnelmali@yahoo.co.uk) |
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By: rossmith81
7/07/2008
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| Gain "been there done that knowlegde" and save 100hrs of researching for jobs in the mines as everything you need is in one guide. Its really well worth it, especially to get the contacts for unskilled mining jobs. Also he is available to answer any questions. Well worth the $30 dollars. |
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By: rossmith81
7/07/2008
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| Gain "been there done that knowlegde" and save 100hrs of researching for jobs in the mines as everything you need is in one guide. Its really well worth it, especially to get the contacts for unskilled mining jobs. Also he is available to answer any questions. Well worth the $30 dollars. www.getajobinthemines.co. nz |
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By: stuart.spence76
9/07/2008
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| Please help.Im 34 and on my way to perth to gain my dump truck licence with qfs.I cannot get a work permit because i am unskilled,does anyone know if the mines will sponser me or help me gain a work permit? Any advice much appricated. |
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By: mr_ibraham2004
14/07/2008
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thank you
you thing i can get job
i have HR THEY ARE TRENING ME? |
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By: stuart_griffiths
22/07/2008
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| I have a job for a welder near Karratha. The job is a contract job and will be for Sept. email sgriffiths.ipad@gmail.com if you are interested. |
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4/08/2008
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