By: mintie_boy
7/05/2007
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I can't for the life of me find any info about the 'new' anti-hoon laws introduced to WA on the web. Any help?
From the brief news articles I get the impression anyone can dob in a 'hoon', is this correct?? |
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By: lilacz_09
7/05/2007
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| www.officeofroadsafety.wa .gov.au/rst-Hoons.asp |
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By: grannydirector
9/05/2007
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I believe the anti hoon laws are still too lenient.
One driver caught 3 times in one weekend? Please!
Cars confiscated for 48hrs is a complete farce,almost a badge of honour with some of them.
confiscated for 6mths may have more impact, no special licence given, and I don't care whose car they are driving!It should go. Mum and Dad may not be too happy about losing their car or having to take junior to work because his car has gone for a well earned rest. |
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By: dntellmewot2do
9/05/2007
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| so what if someone does a burnout or something, no reason to take the car off them. Fair enough if the driver is drunk or something. |
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By: saos1n888
9/05/2007
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There is reasons to take the car off them. In a nutshell they confiscate your car to save your life. What if you spin out hit a pedestrian whos watching? Slam into a pole/tree? |
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By: techarmymisdiv
9/05/2007
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these " hoon laws " will not save i life at all. the people who do this will still do it no matter what.
get hold of some dvd's called- high octane or the Mischief series. there is some serious cars in these dvd's and with the Mischies one's you will be in The Cannonball run and The Players Run in america. great dvd's for the car lover. |
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By: saos1n888
9/05/2007
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| even if they stop your for 48 hours its still saving a life. 1 life saved is better then 1 life dead. |
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By: danniikal
9/05/2007
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| I'm loving the new anti hoon laws, maybe the dumb A$$es who do burnouts in the front of my house every time it rains or everynight when they are being hero's in front of their mates will finally lose their cars. It is really annoying it happens all the time and at all hours of the night. |
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By: lilacz_09
9/05/2007
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<<so what if someone does a burnout or something, no reason to take the car off them.>>
I see that the dnt has again got access to mummy's puter..... |
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By: couga11
9/05/2007
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| Hoons....whatever they do they are fools....TAKE AWAY THERE CAR and sell it to helps victims of road accidents..and hit them with massive fine..at least $5,000......!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!..WE NEED TO GET TOUGH..on these fools on the road..!!!!! |
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By: saos1n888
9/05/2007
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or maybe they need to open estates just of curvy roads and tar spots for these kids to go to and get all there testosterone out of there systems.
Make it like real roads have oilm ptaches everything and let them run wild there. Why not clear out a big section of the pine plantation and do it in there? away form the public. |
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By: buzzndidj
9/05/2007
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Please explain
What is an illegal act under 'anti hoon' laws that was not an unlegal act previously? |
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By: couga11
9/05/2007
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| anti hoon.....anything that breaks the law....try doing some research....or just go out and do a burnout...then u find out |
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By: lilacz_09
9/05/2007
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buzz, I can only spk re victorian laws but I'm sure I've seen you mention you're in Melb, so :
The anti hoon legislation give police the ability to seize someone's vehicle and impound it for 48 hours on a first offence for the following: 1. exceed spd limit by 45ks or more, or 145ks or more in a 110 zone, 2. if found driving whilst suspended or disqualified 3. Careless driving/manner dangerous (involving 'improper use', meaning burnouts, donuts etc).
There are no new offences per se, just the ability to seize a car in certain circumstances. On conviction of a second offence, the police apply to the court to have the car seized for 3 months, and on conviction of a third offence, the police apply to the court to have the car forfeited to the state.
That's about it in a nutshell. |
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By: lilacz_09
9/05/2007
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| I need to clarify my last statement, there are new offences under the legislation, but not in relation to 'hooning', the new offences are in relation to hindering and interfering with the seizing of a vehicle and such. |
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By: larjorgan2001
9/05/2007
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I too think that the antihoon laws are too lenient.
This requirement (under Victorian law) for the hoon to be caught THREE times before an application can be made for forfeiture of his vehicle is absolute crap!
I would like to see an order for DESTRUCTION of the vehicle upon second conviction - so the hoon's mates can't buy it back for him. Furthermore, the hoon should be made to watch as his beloved vehicle is reduced to scrap metal.
I will be the first to concede that hooning may have occurred thirty years ago when I first started driving BUT such activities were conducted on remote country roads or in industrial estates NOT in residential areas where a very real danger of killing/seriously injuring others exists.
The hooning exhibited nowadays is not so much to see what the vehicle can do but a one fingered "in your face" salute to society generally. |
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By: lilacz_09
9/05/2007
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| lar, I don't want to give away too much, but there are some ridiculous holes in the vic legislation. We definitely need to be able to come down hard on these fools who put everyone's life at risk on the roads. |
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By: buzzndidj
9/05/2007
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lilacz, can you fill me in on this one which was the subject of a recent thread
I know it would be more trouble than it's worth, but is there such a charge or offence of refusing to provide ID to a police officer on request without reason |
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By: lilacz_09
10/05/2007
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buzz, police cannot demand production of id unless the person is found driving a motor vehicle (ie their licence). Police can demand someone's name and address if they believe on reasonable grounds that they have committed an indictable offence, or they are found committing a summary offence, or if the police believe on reasonable grounds that the person is a witness to an indictable offence. It is up to police to prove ID in relation to offences committed, so in the example of a summary offence, ie offensive behaviour, police can demand that the person provide id, if the person cannot provide ID or somehow prove who they are, then police may arrest that person and make enquiries to satisfy themselves as to the identity of the person. Another example might be a bike rider who is not wearing a helmet, or disobeys a red light - if that person is not carrying id and they are stopped by police, police have the power to arrest that person until they are satisfied as to who that person is. People who commit indictable offences are arrested and taken to a police station for a tape recorded interview and id is sorted out there.
These laws are applicable in victoria, I don't know about the rest of the country....
Police often stop and talk to people on the street, (especially late at night) or if they think they look a bit sus, if that person is not committing an offence, then they don't have to give the police any info, obviously if you're not doing anything wrong, you shouldn't have any dramas with having a chat to the cops and giving them your name - would be unusual for police to demand production of id in these circumstances anyway.
I know I have gone into it more than what you asked for, but in short, if police have no reason to be asking for someone's id, then there is no offence to refuse to give it - if someone is unsure, they should ask the police officer why they are asking for their id and take it from there.
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By: dntellmewot2do
10/05/2007
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| In western australia you do have supply your name and place of residence if requested by police. |
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By: luvcooka
10/05/2007
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did the best burnout the other night!
it went about 100m LSD snakey. heaps of smoke. definetly a crowd pleaser.
a well executed manouver, required much skill and control - even pulled a root because of it! |
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By: dntellmewot2do
10/05/2007
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| What sort of car luvcooka? |
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By: luvcooka
10/05/2007
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black VZ commodore SS.
21" rims, 4%tint and get supercharged next week.
also have a 2007 harley low rider 96cube |
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By: hoons_interactive
11/05/2007
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All this is a waste of time, if the courts can't even convict someone killing someone else during a drag race. This guy only got 10 months, so before you complain about "hoons" doing burnouts, how about we all use the SEAT BELT, DRIVING WHILE TIRED, this is all I hear on the news as the cause of most road deaths of late.
For the record it isn't the "hoon" law, can't remember exact what the law is, and the word "hoon" isn't even used in the act.
And my username, well that was the answer avaliable way before the law, which would have/can stop stupid driving.
Oh, and how many users here have done a burnout sometime in there life, or have atleast 1 traffic fine. |
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By: mintie_boy
14/05/2007
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I think the government needs to address many other serious issues to do with road safety before 'hoons'. How about better roads, ongoing training, defensive training courses, how about police target something other than speeding?
Still can't get over so few people know how to merge, how few people can indicate correctly on round-a-bouts or stay in their lane, how few people can indicate when changing lanes, how incourteous drivers are etc. I come across circumstances like this everyday, and these people are endangering my life everyday and don't even realise.
Why does driving in a dangerous manner only cover burnouts etc.?? At least the 'hoons' know they are doing something wrong (well illegal), the people I described above have no idea they are doing something wrong (illegal) ... which is worse?? |
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