By: freeschapelle07
31/01/2007
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And my sons in bed by 8.30pm, hes 5, and its a regular sleeping time all year round. And if you think thats a bit late you have read what people have said on this site about daylight savings and the times there kids are getting to bed.
And quering my sons bed time is a little out of context dont you think? |
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By: they_cant_tell_me
31/01/2007
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No, querying his bed time is not out of context at all.
Alot of people use the excuse of extra outdoor play time in DLS as an advantage. Now watching him play at 7.30 does that mean he is going out to play at 7.30 after dinner before having a bath (he's been playing outside, he must be dirty) and going to bed at 8.30. Meaning that in that 1 hour he has had a descent play, been bthed and is tucked up in bed? Hardly worth it is it?
Or is he coming inside at 7.30 yet to still have tea AND a bath and get ready for bed. Poor you and the kid must find that hour until 8.30 a bit rushed and stressful.
I am sorry but I do not believe that you have changed your rules to accommodate your son having extra play time in the evenings. I am sure that prior to this year's DLS trial you probably read or played other indoor activities during this time or played outside as you do now anyway.
If you are in Perth it is probably still daylight at the moment at 8.30pm, 7.30pm standard time. |
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By: freeschapelle07
31/01/2007
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| Your right, I never changed the rules with daylight savings. But basically instead of being inside at 7.30pm playing hes outside at 7.30pm playing. And he still gets to bed on time. |
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By: forcegolf
31/01/2007
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| You should take a moment and see who is the the person against DLS, and what is her main reason for wanting to do away with dls. She claims is ruins her training. Bottom line, is each and everyone of us will vote on what is best for them, with that I have no problem. However don't come out with silly crap , that DLS it is bad for society, as none of the reasons hold water. Why not be honest and say I don't like or want it, that is much better than a bunch of lame and unfounded excuses. If the people of WA do not want DLS, simply because they don't like it, that is fine, just drop the empty rhetoric and be honest |
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By: forcegolf
31/01/2007
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| Of course I support recycled water, it is a proven method and using a valuable resource |
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By: forcegolf
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| You really do dribble on without making a valid point |
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By: pmccrackan
31/01/2007
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The reason for not wanting Day Light Saving is that it forces many people to change their lives / lifestyles to follow suit to those people who do want the change.
Why should I have to change my lifestyle just because someone else wants to change theirs?
That is the only real reason for not wanting it. |
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By: freeschapelle07
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| At least your honest. That the best argument Ive heard from the No side yet |
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By: robddaniel
31/01/2007
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Aren't we the luckiest people alive to be so passionate in debating yes or no for daylight saving! Most countries have far more serious issues to worry about.
For the record, daylight hours are exacly the time, it's the time that's changed. I think it is FANTASTIC that we have longer hours of light after work, socially as well feeling 'summery' each evening.
If you are one of those spending chunks of your life actually fighting against this, something a little more worthwhile might leave you feeling happier and more fulfilled.
Abuse, education, homeless children, war, famine, disease - it's a sign of a far too comfortable, selfish society when the biggest response to a subject is dalight saving!
Build a bridge ... |
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By: navery1976
31/01/2007
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| From an Eastern State's perspective it really doesn't matter whether WA takes advantage of daylight saving time or not. It is the only state in its timezone, so it really doesn't matter. I can imagine that international countries really don't find it a problem if WA ignores daylight saving time. International countires must find it difficult when Queensland doesn't take it up, however, that is another issue. |
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By: dreamweaverwa
3/02/2007
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Hey there you DLS supporters; see you have not acknowledged the challenge since posted. Maybe you are out side in that 40++ heat! Such silence suggests no arguement is really available in favour of DLS being motivated in my view by politics.
Navery1976, do not see the relevance of International countries finding it difficult when Australia uses DLS as after all we either lose or gain an hour relative to their time zone. Again, so much for modern technology! |
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By: paulfaycd
3/02/2007
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hello dreamweaverwa
you are so right, there in no logical reason to have dls,
i am from qld and have put up the same challenge and have not had any good reasons posted.
i even offered some one in se qld to come to mackay and work with me on my times with dls time and no one took me up,
it is purely a leisure thing and thats it there is no bensfit to the wider community |
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3/02/2007
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| Robdaniel is a KNO b |
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By: docta_jay0690
4/02/2007
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i would love to know how daylight savings makes working in cooler hours of the day.. sure you may start one hour earlier.. but then the est of your day then is in the heat of the day... and no cooler hours in the afternoon as normal summers do give.
the only thing that most of you are saying is that more sunlight.. at the wrong freaking end of the day.... i DONT need sunlight at 9pm.. nor do i need children up at this hour because it is still daylight.. and yes they normally go to bed at 8.. but not now without the biggest fight about it.. and by then it's 9pm. for all of you for daylight savings i ask if you have young children? if so i would love to know how your day goes?? the only one of my children who doesnt argue about it being day time is my baby.. but then again by the time this trial is over she will be though wont she?
all that it boils down to for me is that my children are up earlier and in bed later.. and as for my husband.. well gets gets up in the darkness of the night to go to work and comes home to see sunlight as he's going to bed.. ohh were have the sane people gone?
Why do we need daylight savings? i hear argueents of safer driving conditions.. ahh huh.. yet our road polls arent getting any better.
i hear arguements of more daylight... sorry to say but the time of light hasnt changed anymore then it does any other year... just that we see light at 9pm opposed to 8pm on normal conditions.
for those of you who work from 6am... all well and good.. but for those of us who get up and have to be at work by 5.15 well it's still dark then.
but then again i know of companys moving there hours forward for earlier starts so as there workers get to work in cooler hours in the morning... but sorry to say but i know these people only end up working a hour longer each day... and do so know with daylight savings.
Regardless of how close the polls have been.. or will be again.. i always thought majority was whats wins not the pollys and there choice |
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By: trevorsteamboat
4/02/2007
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Where did I say she was innocent? |
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By: jaykaye_09
4/02/2007
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Who is kidding who? Whether for or against DLS (I am for), their is no real argument one way (eg. children can't sleep) or the other (safer driving), especially so far as WA goes.
Do you know why I want DLS. So I can play football (soccer) in my backyard for longer than I otherwise would have. So I can go to Northbridge and have dinner late, but still before the sun goes down and the idiots come out.
Other than that, I have no 'real' reason. |
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By: dreamweaverwa
5/02/2007
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Hey jaykaye_09
So your reason for DLS is only..."play football (soccer) in my backyard for longer than I otherwise would have. So I can go to Northbridge and have dinner late, but still before the sun goes down and the idiots come out."
You don’t play during NON-SUMMER seasons then as you do not access flood lights year round. How unlucky :-(
Which day of the week do you play? Are you not tired after a hard days work during the week.
Maybe your a weekend warrior... we here are up with the sparrows, but are you? After all, if you like sport that much you must maximise the daylight hours.
Still my question was not answered leaving it to be political governed by selfish few messing with the body clock. |
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By: jaykaye_09
5/02/2007
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I play 'league' football during the winter and use the summer as a time to keep myself fit.
In respect to socially; As I am a student (and part-time employee), while the majority of my friends are labourers, we find the latter part of the day to be the most convenient to meet.
By the way, I suggest if an hour wrecks as much havoc with your 'body clock' as you claim, the problem may not lie with DLS... |
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By: jaykaye_09
5/02/2007
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'Still my question was not answered leaving it to be political governed by selfish few messing with the body clock'
-dreamweaverwa
I don't see how your question asking, 'why we need it', is any different then my asking, 'why we don't'. For most people, the reasons are purely 'selfish' either way.
However, I answer your question the best I can; we don't NEED DLS, 'we' want it. |
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By: ausgal951753
5/02/2007
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Best reply todate jajkaye.
We like DLS
We want DLS
I hope in 3 years time we get DLS and move into the modern world.
Its not only because I like DLS, it is good for WA business and the tourist industry. |
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By: ausgal951753
6/02/2007
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Why are the darksiders against a 3 year trial its a very fair way to have the public get used to DLS and then vote.
The darksiders are paranoid about DLS, you would thinks its the end of the world for them to actually enjoy a pleasant evening and sunset. |
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By: pmccrackan
6/02/2007
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I can have a very pleasant evening and sun set without day light saving thank you very much!
I am quite content without messing around with the clock. If I want to have some personal time in the early evening and want to finish work at 4 or 5 pm, then I do my best to ensure I can finish my work by then, by starting early. That is my choice and I do so gladly.
There may be some people in jobs where you cannot start early, but if stopping work in the early afternoon means THAT much to you, get a different job. After all, it's YOU who want the change, why force it on those of us who do not want it.
Why are you so worried about an early vote? It seems to me that everyone knows weather they want it or not, just look at the National Parties poll, http://www.nationalswa.com/
only 0.7% of 9574 people are undecided. the other fugures of for and against are meaningless at this stage, thanks to those people who think that internet voting can be rigged, no doubt some people on both sides of the argument were silly enough to try multiple voting. All votes can be traced to IP address's and I guess that is precisely what they will do when they choose to analize the poll.
An early vote will settle the matter, I will accept whatever the majority decide, as I'm sure most people will.
I do not want all this arguing, bickering and general division in our community to go on for 3 years. |
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By: trevorsteamboat
6/02/2007
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ausgal, using that term darksiders again? Do you consider yourself "enlightened". Do you consider that the "darksiders" are a little backward and ignorant in their thinking?
Kind of like the rubbish you posted in "Top Stories" on the "sea levels will rise post" where you managed to turn it in to a rascist debate and warned that for Australia to have a sustainable future we need to crack down on immigrants
Very enlightened.... |
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By: peaceleo69
6/02/2007
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ah, trevor-maybe she doesn't like the darksiders coming here-to join us darksiders; who are already here in the twilight.!Might ovewrwhelm the enlightened ones!
Dont you just love the fact-the only ones who talk about 'faded curtains', are the ones who want daylight saving-they don't seem to have much of an arguement against the logic of those who don't want it but some strange misguided comment ;one of them thought up long ago!
Daylight saving originated in places where they have less dayligtht than we do and far less heat-so why do we need to'save' daylight here?
In this day of technology-companies can communicate 24 hours a day electronically-so there is no arguement there, with being connected with the ES-or elsewhere round the world.
If a business wants physical contact with its customers-it has nothing to do with the ES-so I cant see how that arguement even has any merit!
But if need be-especially with the new"work place choices!"-companies only have to stagger work hours for the summer months ,to meet this demand.
For those who want more sunlight-the sun rises earlier when its cooler in the morning-get up an hour earlier ,like others do who want to take advantage of the extra light in summer.
That still leaves about an extra 2 hours more of light in the evening,than there is in the winter-without disrupting the normal flow of life for everyone else and people's body clocks.
Mid day,is the middle of the day-when the sun is at its zenith.Changing 11 oclock time to 12-still does not make it mid day!
You dont need a clock to tell you when its mid day-the sun does that better than anything!
And has done so from time immemorial-without human interference. |
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