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By: universalpeace2005
25/10/2006
12:39 pm

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that is an utterly inane statement.
what a pile of rot.

By: universalpeace2005
25/10/2006
12:44 pm

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Inane statement.
family time is important and it is easy to spend time with family without the stupidity of daylight saving. which is not needed and should be abolished.
those of you who want daylight saving are scared of the dark, and have been brainwashed into thinking it is a good thing.
makes me wonder if you are all smokers too.

By: silicacontent
25/10/2006
1:39 pm

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Having had the pleasant experience of nice sunny evenings whilst living in the eastern states I cannot wait for it to be brought in in WA. More nice time for outside activities or just relaxing with a cold beer round the pool. People objecting to it have never experienced it. Go on dont be scared give it ago. Live and learn.

By: terrye_82
25/10/2006
2:09 pm

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CAN'T STAND DAY LIGHT SAVING
I work with animals and they do not change there clocks when day light saving comes in.I wish there was no day light saving.we can just get up early or stay outside longer in the evening. We don't need a clock to injoy the day lightlight hours.

By: ausgal951753
25/10/2006
3:43 pm

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Look guys its really not difficult, instead of being dark at 7.00pm it will still be light. Give it a go and enjoy. The rest of the country cant be wrong.

By: wpdnlv
25/10/2006
5:12 pm

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Everybody seems to be forgetting about the massive amount of tradespeople in this state.
Forget about the kids not being able to get to sleep in the middle of summer when it's still daylight... I won't be!! Then when you get further into summer, we'll have to work to first hour or so in darkness.
Not to mention the further you go north the more hours of sunshine you have anyway... Why do you think Queensland and the NT don't have daylight saving? Remember our state goes all the way to the top of the country, not just Perth.
NO DAYLIGHT SAVING

By: silicacontent
25/10/2006
5:24 pm

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We need daylight saving, whats the point of having sunshine at 4.30am in the morning. The majority of people dont start work before 7.00 am. So why this reluctance to try daylight saving it will be wonderful, trust me i am a tradesman myself and have worked for many years in Sydney. Try it you will like it.

By: inst_ed
25/10/2006
7:19 pm

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wpdnlv: [Not to mention the further you go north the more hours of sunshine you have anyway]

WRONG WRONG WRONG! In summer, the further north you go to FEWER hours of sunshine you have.

By: andonamouse
25/10/2006
7:39 pm

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All pro's and con's aside I always thought that when a state has two referendums on a subject and both times the population of that state say NO in a Democratic society that meant NO. Shows how much the pollies we vote in actually listen to us. It seems to be a case of, can we do this and if we say no, stuff the voters and do it anyway.

By: ausgal951753
25/10/2006
8:21 pm

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As far as past referendums go the last one was 10 years ago. There are more broader minded people in this state now including myself who have experienced Daylight saving. The younger people now eligible to vote also seem to want the extra light on the evening. It is no good being light at 5.00 am it is a waste. The majority of todays people want daylight saving. We live for today not ten years ago.

By: gay_snake_charmer
25/10/2006
8:54 pm

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Watch out for daylight savings.

It fades the curtains quicker.

By: andonamouse
25/10/2006
9:05 pm

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As far as past referendums go the last one was 10 years ago. There are more broader minded people in this state now including myself who have experienced Daylight saving. The younger people now eligible to vote also seem to want the extra light on the evening. It is no good being light at 5.00 am it is a waste. The majority of todays people want daylight saving. We live for today not ten years ago.

Well have a referendum today and go by the answer and I hate to say but most of us have some knowledge of daylight saving...even old fogies...I actually am all for it as I live in Kununurra were 30 klms away it is an hour and a half later..But I also believe in democracy which means the majority rule. Oh and by the way some people do get up at five and go for a swim or a fish before work...When they are fresh not have a lot of light after work when they are tired...All coins have two sides

By: georgejonesidle
25/10/2006
9:55 pm

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I think the people should decide, not a group of politicians.
Have a referendum before any trial of daylight saving


Enough sun now

By: inst_ed
25/10/2006
10:15 pm

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To those who oppose daylight saving on the grounds that "we have enough daylight already" - you do realise that this is just a variation on the fading curtains argument, don't you?

By: bovine_blue
26/10/2006
1:37 am

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"To those who oppose daylight saving on the grounds that "we have enough daylight already" - you do realise that this is just a variation on the fading curtains argument, don't you?"

You seem to know all the answers inst_ed but what about these two.

What kind of interest do they pay on daylight savings?

Are we at greater risk of daylight robbery?

By: silicacontent
26/10/2006
10:02 am

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Replying to (I think the people should decide, not a group of politicians.
Have a referendum before any trial of daylight saving)

The problem with the above is that you are asking some people to vote on something they have never experienced. Lets us try daylight in the evenings for the 3 summer seasons and then decide, this is the fairest way.

By: georgimw
26/10/2006
1:18 pm

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"We have had three referendums on this subject already and each time 'NO' has been the answer"
sorry when was that???? i don't remeber ever voting on it oh sorry thats right i wasn't 18 yet, but now i am and i say yes to daylight saving, why not... it's not going to be the end of the world .

By: georgimw
26/10/2006
1:28 pm

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"In 1975, the yes vote failed 46 per cent to 54 per cent. In 1984, the same margin, with no winning again. In 1992, the margin only slightly less, 47 percent to 53"

but like i said that was 14 years ago... and they were pretty close results.

By: spikethru4
26/10/2006
3:03 pm

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[Watch out for daylight savings. It fades the curtains quicker]

Please explain how. I am intrigued.

By: subiaco69
26/10/2006
6:25 pm

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When i was a child in the UK (with day light saving) we went to bed when our mother told us too "Good Kids or Good Mother!!!" The cows still produced fantastic milk and the curtains didn't fade any faster.

BRING IT ON, AND LETS ENJOY OUR PERTH SUMMER EVENINGS!!!!!

By: spikethru4
27/10/2006
10:51 am

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I'm all for reasonable debate on the issue, so does anyone actually have any good, rational arguments against DST? Inst_ed and others have done a very good job setting out the position in favour, using fact and logical arguments to back it up. By contrast, I have not seen one decent counter-argument on this board or anywhere else, for that matter. The only things I hear from the anti-DST lobby are myths, hearsay and downright resistance to change, and none of it has any basis in fact whatsoever.

The more I read on the subject, the more I'm convinced that the pollies have done the right thing (for once) in going against "what the people want", because it's quite clear that "the people" don't have the first idea what they're talking about.

Prove me wrong. Give me one good reason not to have DST - and back it up with facts.

By: ausgal951753
27/10/2006
11:39 am

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There is no logical argument against daylight saving. All logical argument is for Daylight saving.

Question Why do we need daylight at 4.30am
Answer we do not
Question Are light evenings more enjoyable than Dark ones
Answer Yes
Question Is it better to start work in the summer months in the cooler hours of the day
Answer Yes
Question Why are some people against Daylight Saving
Answer No real logical answer to this, probably against all forms of change in their lives. These are the people who would still have the 6pm swill in the pubs and no petrol for sale on Sundays.

By: auntynoall
27/10/2006
11:59 am

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If you want to see more daylight get up an hour earlier and make breaky for the whole family or go for a walk. You don't need the government to give you more daylight. Work with what you have. Good luck getting the kids to bed at a reasonable hour when you all lose an hour of sleep every night.

By: merlot_mistress
27/10/2006
11:59 am

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Go daylight saving.

Should be for longer.

By: auntynoall
27/10/2006
12:03 pm

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The logical reason for no daylight savings is that if you live further north or are a rural person, you will be getting the whole family up an hour earlier (if they catch a school bus at 7am (alot do) it will now be 6. Because alot of rural jobs are while the sunshines they end up working later at night, causing havoc to the cook. The kids won't go to bed in the light and everyone gets an hours less sleep. Thats alot of cranky kids and wives, and alot of overworked farmers.
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