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By: andonamouse
26/01/2007
11:53 am

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She's right even when I think she is wroung she is right

By: jaykaye_09
26/01/2007
11:55 am

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I'm only 20, but yeah, but the sounds of it I'm really looking forward to married life;

'Yes honey'
'Of course honey'
'I agree honey'....

doesn't seem to hard.

By: andonamouse
26/01/2007
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Or just the old "yes dear"

By: paulfaycd
26/01/2007
9:25 pm

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well put out a challenge to people in south qld to come and work with me in mackay for a week on dls time and no one has yet to take me up on it ,
goes to show how selfish pro dls peole are, they are not prepared to try it in our situation yet they expect us to jump for joy about dls,

i have traveled to brissy and to fnq over christmas and founf that dls would be so silly in both places.
especially in the north where the weather
bureau listed sunrise in cairns at 5,45 am .
so how would you like it to have the sun rising at nearly 7 dls time.
that would be very disruptive to people that start work at 7 like most trades let alone thge rural community and what about the kids getting on the bus and traveling to school just after sunrise , whe they have had to be up for ages in the dark to get ready for school .
stop being so self cebtred and have a look at what you are expecting of people just so you can pretend to have a better life style.
and im sure the people in the far north of wa are in the same position .

dls is only any good for people who work 9 to 5 and live in cities.

By: diamond_dust_1000
26/01/2007
10:02 pm

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"'Yes honey'
'Of course honey'
'I agree honey'....

doesn't seem to hard."

lol...jaykay...its not that easy ;-)

just thought i would touch base here to say i didnt want day light saving and im still not liking it :-(...i dont have any logical reason :-(

(btw this is ic_lady) :-)

By: pmccrackan
27/01/2007
5:57 pm

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How long does it take to start liking it? I been waiting with patience but nothing's happened yet to make me change my mind, quite the opposite in fact.
It would be interesting to hear from anyone who has actually changed their mind on this matter, either pro or anti. What happened to make you change your mind?

By: diamond_dust_1000
27/01/2007
6:16 pm

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a friend of mine has she has changed her mind but admits only because its school holidays...when school returns next week things maybe different...

this week i think has been worse because of the very high temps...i think it was still 39 or 40 and 10.30 last night :-(

By: diamond_dust_1000
27/01/2007
6:25 pm

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lol...im so sorry that last post of mine did not make sense...(blame it on daylight saving)...lol

"a friend of mine has she has changed her mind "

lol...

that should read...a friend of mine has changed her mind

By: cybernautwa
27/01/2007
9:32 pm

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Everyone is looking for the good, the bad, and the ugly about DLS.

Our poly's seem desperate to have it after it was voted against 15 years ago for the third time. Why else would they push it through parliament! Who are they trying to impress – the younger generation who are now taxpayers or businesses?

Since this is not the dark ages with office fax, email, phone which are all mobile now days. What is the motivation? Silly me it is in the best interest of society with an over whelming request for it as they let us believe this idea is the "holy grail"? Ensuring that extra hour maintains the 2 hour time difference with the East. Why stop there as the world is our oyster waiting to conform.

Of course, it is so we can languish around on the beach to sink more tinnies with another snagger on the BBQ all through summer. Is it not great having more daylight until around 9pm before getting to bed late, awake early, become sleep deprived, become more accident prone, all in the name of that extra hour controlled by the poly’s imitative that we society asked for!

To me, leave the body clock alone and the time piece as well! I have known people who rise and rest with the movements of the sun. Has DLS improved my quality of life – NO, I still battle the traffic with an hour there and back (sometimes longer) which seems more congested presently. Maybe they are all rushing home to take advantage of that extra hour they spend in traffic.

By: justbecause222
27/01/2007
9:50 pm

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Cmon peopls DLS is not being used for its right purpose. DLS and the new relaxed drinking laws were bought in together for a reason. Dont you remember that phrase:

There are 2 states to be in

WA and pissed

By: peaches_79_3
27/01/2007
10:47 pm

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DLS NEEDS TO GO!!! I don't like DLS because the kids don't want to go to bed when there is still daylight 'Oh do we have to?'. I like the kids to have dinner between 6-6:30pm it use to be you could tell roughly what time it was by looking outside. So now I have to be a clock watcher. As I am sitting here writting this message is is about 8:30pm I can still see daylight outside. The kids go to bed late (after 10pm bedtime is ment to be 8:30pm) and they wakeup late. Then they are in a rush to get ready for school. Kids need 7-12 hrs sleep because they are so active. It's not about putting them to bed for ME time, it's about putting them to bed for THEM so they can wakeup refreshed for school. It's about the fact they can only do swimming tranning for one hr instead of two hrs because the pool is open to the public for that extra hr. It's about the 50 odd people I have asked 'do you like DLS? HELL NO!!! they answer. Not one person I know wants DLS. The WHOLE pubic of WA needs to vote on it. Not just some of it. I know I never answered a poll on DLS. It is now 8:50pm and there is only the tiniest bit of daylight filtering through the trees.

By: ianmac53
28/01/2007
11:50 am

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Simple Sall...because we are the same country.

By: dreamweaverwa
28/01/2007
8:55 pm

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Hey people of WA - Have you voted on Channel 7 phone poll concerning voting on DLS at the end of this summer?

We may all want to put this matter to rest NOW, but the poly's will continue to do what they do best as experienced by public members.

As we address the response...

waiting...

still waiting...

By: jaykaye_09
28/01/2007
9:49 pm

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'The kids go to bed late (after 10pm bedtime is ment to be 8:30pm) and they wakeup late.'

-peaches_79_3

If DLS 'grants' us an extra hour of sunlight, why are your children going to bed at 10.00 as opposed to 9.30, adding to which - curtains are a wonderful thing.

I was in Northbridge a few weeks ago. Sunday night about 8.00, and the streets were full with people dining, walking and, more or less, being social. Obviously these people don't mix in the same circles as yourself peaches, as seems to be the case with the majority I know who enjoy DLS.

By: mintie_boy
29/01/2007
10:01 am

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peaches wrote: "The kids go to bed late (after 10pm bedtime is ment to be 8:30pm) and they wakeup late. Then they are in a rush to get ready for school."

After 10pm is their bed time??? What, I am in bed before that and I am not on SCHOOL HOLIDAYS!!! I was never allowed up that late when I was a kid, even during school holidays and weekends. I grew up in Sydney and I was in bed by 8 or 830 ever night...(because my parents told me to and they pulled the curtains). DLS didn't affect my sleep pattern.

Come on people, I am willing to be anti DLS but you need to give a reason to be. Kids can't go to bed? Poor excuse. My kid does, and I never had trouble as a kid. The farmer? Poor excuse, the majority of west aussies aren't farmers. Farmers have more serious problems than DLS too (and not all farmers would be against it). Energy use will go up? Do you have proof Western Power make more money?? DLS was originally introduced as a power saving technique during the wars (in Aust, inc. WA) and is still used as one in England.

By: paulfaycd
29/01/2007
10:36 am

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hi mintie .

could you give me some real reasons for dls.
you obviously live in the southern part of wa.
i live in north qld and we are against dls here to.

but i have not heard any sound reasons fof dls yet,
the only reasons i hear is for more leisure time.
and businesses being on the same time,

but you tell me why i have to change my lifestyle so you can change yours.
there is no benefit to me so why should people have to change just so some one else has more leisure time.
what grewat benefit to all people is to be gaioned from dls
NOPTHING IT IS A SELFISH ACT BY CITY PEOPLE WHO WORK 9 TO 5

By: tickfen
29/01/2007
12:49 pm

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i did not want it
i don`t like it
i object to pollies deciding for me
i see no advantage at all
most people i know think the same way
my MP will loose my vote as a result
there are more important things that need attention
SO THERE.

By: odanavyl2
29/01/2007
8:58 pm

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(DLS was originally introduced as a power saving technique during the wars (in Aust, inc. WA) and is still used as one in England.) Do you think that might have had something to do with the fact that you were not allowed to use lights in your house at night because of the blackout???? That is why daylight savings was introduced, not to save power but so that families could prepare and eat their meals in a house that had enough light to see what you were doing, nothing to do with power. And I guess considering the huge campain being run in Australia about using power better and the need for new power stations in Sydney and Melbourne may give a clue to the jump in Power use in summer in those states. A basic understanding of temperature and cooling would show that energy used to drop the temprature in a house at 38c rather than 34c would be greater. Though there are no more real hours you are in fact at home when it is hotter and therefore more likely to be using an extra hour of power to cool you home than you were before.

So an extra hour in the sun is a good thing????? Guess if we want more skin cancer cases it is. So you get an extra hour in the sun under that hole in the ozone..... Well count me out... And up in the north West who really wants to be outside when it is over 40. Now I have to wait till 9pm before I'm willing to venture outside and even then it is in the high 30s. I know why they gave daylight saving away in Queensland now.

By: cybernautwa
29/01/2007
11:27 pm

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From Channel 7 phone poll "should WA vote on daylight saving at the end of this summer?"

http://au.news.yahoo.com/070129/23/128e9.html

It was overwhelming for Western Australia's politicians to realise and acknowledge 28,000 viewers voted in which almost 21,000 people said YES and just fewer than 7,000 people said NO!!

Yet John D'Orazio, said "Eight weeks into the trial was not enough time for lifestyles to adjust." Obviously he is not very interested in the view of Western Australians who had DLS shoved down their throats! Of course turning a deaf ear ensures we suffer another two years to undoubtedly hope we will all warm to the idea of a summer time change.

Now on the face of it we should all ask John D'Orazio to address his motivation? Is it really for the good of WA people -or- something else we know nothing about?? ….Go figure….

At least Liz Leydon has started a petition to push for an early vote that relies on us all to get it through. Then at that point John D'Orazio action will clearly state his intentions and concerns towards the people of WA.

By: paulfaycd
30/01/2007
12:14 am

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it would not be a reliable vote as on line polls can be rigged to easily by some one continously voting,
the only waty is a true refurendum of every one

By: kateduncalf
30/01/2007
3:31 am

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I've been living in England for the past 2 years where daylight saving goes till half 9 in the summer time. Kids still go to bed over here! Having the extra daylight in the evenings is refreshing and allows you to be much more active and get out and about, go for a run, a bike ride, to the beach etc. rather than sit on our butts watching tv. Who wants to get up at the crack of dawn just to be able to do these things. These days with the hours we work we need the extra daylight in the evenings to chill out and enjoy our lives and our city!

By: paulfaycd
30/01/2007
6:57 am

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comparing england to australia is not a good comparison, as the climate is totaly different.
who wants to get out in the afternoon heat to all these things people keep talking about doing with families,
the only things people will be doing is staying inside in the air con more,

i live in central qld , and over here at the moment we cant wait for the sun to go down for some relief from the heat.
we get up and start work early to get in before the heat,and if they put dls in here then we loose that early starting time as it is to dark,it is almost 6 am here now which is a good time to be starting work , and if it were dls time it would have been to dark to start an hour ago.

no one has yet to come up with any benefits for all of the people in the state ,why should people be asked to change just to give some people more so called leisure time

By: wildcat9973
30/01/2007
7:34 am

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Reading about the Channel 7 poll,the "yes" vote won the poll. But there is more than 35,000 people in Western Australia. A miniscual battle was won by the "yes" vote but the "no" vote will win again. So lets vote now Western Australian's & see who will come out on top.

By: charmzi_babe
30/01/2007
10:07 am

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I am only a 13 year old girl who, along with my parents, despise DLS.

I see no point in one of the many useless reasons why John D'Orazio was pushing for it. This main reason was so that in the afternoons you could come home from your tiring work only to hear your children nag you to go out because of the daylight savings. But which parent, in their right mind, would let there children go out on a school night? Sure it could be used for the benefit of more family time, but as I have seen at school, the children will be tired.

Some of my classs members repeatedly yawn throught the morning lessons from lack of sleep because they went to the beach or had a late barbeque the night before.

With the younger children, they're always complaining that they can't sleep, because of the sun coming into their room. So they still have to go to bed at there normal 7.30 ish bedtimes only to be kept awake until 9.30 that same night!

Yeah we can draw the curtains and hopefully they're thick enought to block out the light, but realy that daylight beckons you to come and play and enjoy without realiseing the consequence of how late it gets

I hate it, because I'm tired of hearing people complain and my whole body clock is so messed up right now.

DOWN WITH DLS!!!!

By: carlossalgado67
30/01/2007
10:41 am

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You are just a narrow minded type of person by thinking the way you are, look at the benefits of day light savings, on the pick of summer @ 4:00 am is day light already when everybody is asleep, wouldn't be better gaining that extra hour @ the end of the day to do something that you don't have a chance to do when is dark? Think about it, in Europe they have day light savings for ages and they just love it, open yourself to some changes and progress...
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