By: liv_tyler24
21/11/2006
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We have been reminded several times that there has been 3 referendums that say no. However, that was quite awhile ago,
Are the next generation, that are now of voting age, not allowed to have a say? Just because we have said no before, we are able to change our minds, or even have a view.
On another point, when the bill gets passed for the 3 year trial, people are going to vote no at the end of the 3 years, purely to make a point to the govt that they did not give us a say in it. childish people.
I personally think the trial is a good idea, that way EVERYONE can make an informed decision on what is best for them. Not what's best for the farmers, friends etc, or even to make a point, what was best for you.
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By: garyf64au
21/11/2006
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| Agreed and also it is summer time anyway and the sun sets much later so people still have time to be outside and enjoy the evening after work |
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By: liv_tyler24
21/11/2006
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Here is another PRO for daylight savings. From a business point of view in WA. Our company relies heavily on the Eastern states for constant interaction to answer questions for our own WA companies. As I am sure, many many companies are the same. We infact have our stores over there that supply goods to WA. When they go on day light savings, we come in the morning at 8am it is already starting lunch time over there 11am - 1pm. So between 8-11am we have limited access to the people of overeast. By 2pm here everyone has gone home. We deliver our products from eastern states, so our local customers are effected daily even more than normal because of day light savings. That extra hour makes our lives that little bit more difficult.
So in fact, we as WA people are being effected in more ways than curtains, cows and children's bedtimes.
Let the trial begin, and then we can all vote with an informed decision. |
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By: liv_tyler24
21/11/2006
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...so people can then make an informed decision, and actually been through it without just automatically saying no.
Besides, if you are all so certain WA does not want it, let the trial begin, put up with it for 3 years, and say with a grin on your face "enjoy it while you can cause it wont last"
But you are all scared that actually having a trial will show you that it may only effect you and your situation for the first couple of days adjustment and then it makes no difference, and people may actually vote yes. |
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By: ausgal951753
21/11/2006
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| Yes to daylight saving, it is good, I enjoy it, only 1 vote but hopefully at least 60% agree with me |
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By: kingerikcantona
21/11/2006
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liv why force it onto people if you are so sure it is inconveniencing so many people? if it really affects them so much then they will vote yes to have daylight saving.
I played a whole game of outdoor soccer last night after work without the aid of lights :) (I finish at 5pm) |
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By: ausgal951753
21/11/2006
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| Democratic vote, Trial then vote only fair way |
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By: keravon72
21/11/2006
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| Are all you people nuts...The comment of having to deal with more sunlight is beyond me...The days are the same regardless only the time changes. With daylight saving I can spend more time outside with my kids and don't have to get all my bank transfers done by 9am. |
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By: tarceyblu
21/11/2006
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| As a mother of five teenage boys I get up an hour earlier to make brekky do the washing and walk the dog and if I'm lucky get some housework done. I also work full time so being able to get some extra chores done at night maybe I might get some "me" time in the evenings or some quality time with my husband, family and friends. Thats if that whole 1 hour of "EXTRA" sunlight doesn't keep my kids awake till all hours of the night?? OH and if we lose an hour of sleep every night while we have daylight saving does that mean we get to sleep in an hour every morning when we change the clocks back??????? (duh) WAKE UP PEOPLE!! |
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By: tarceyblu
21/11/2006
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| Hey just think with daylight saving you might have been able to play two games!! |
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By: ausgal951753
21/11/2006
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lets all try the daylight saving with an open mind. Then we can make our mind up with a vote.
No need for all the arguing as it will be a personal choice based on experience. |
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By: ausgal951753
21/11/2006
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Western Australia will trial daylight saving this summer.
The state's upper house has passed a bill which will introduce daylight saving on December 3, for a three-year trial, to be followed by a referendum in 2009.
A spokeswoman for Agriculture Minister Kim Chance said the bill passed 21 votes to 10.
West Australians have rejected daylight saving in three referendums over the past 31 years.
When the state switches to daylight saving on December 3, only Queensland and the Northern Territory will be without it. |
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By: jaykaye_09
21/11/2006
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| About time :) |
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By: universalpeace2005
21/11/2006
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total waste of time. Western Australia does not NEED "daylight saving"
Australia does not need daylight saving. The whole stupid idea should have been abolished instead of more of the ludicrous setup.
Guess those in power have to control everything. Can't leave anything as naturally occuring. Oooh, that would be just too AWFUL wouldn't it!!!
by the way, the trial will be permanent it doesn't matter that a large percentage voted no. Don't see the point in voting when we are not listened to. |
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By: mackkiwi
21/11/2006
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YES!! About time!! Now these locals who have never experienced the benefit of an extra hour will be able to make an informed choice when the opportunity comes around again in 2009.
universalpeace2005 I'm guessing that your one of the owners on of the Moonlight cinema, about the only ones that are likely to loose from the change, but certainly the vast majority of WA residents will benefit.
The farmers will not have any trouble either, the cows will still come in when the Sun comes up. I haven't yet seem a cow checking her watch to know when the milking shed is open. The milk companies will adjust, they do everywhere else.
Finally Wait Awhile is catching up with the modern day world. |
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By: bovine_blue
21/11/2006
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"YES!! About time!! Now these locals who have never experienced the benefit of an extra hour will be able to make an informed choice when the opportunity comes around again in 2009."
Where exactly does the extra hour come from? |
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By: mackkiwi
22/11/2006
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Officially, at two am standard time on the 3rd of December you put your clock forward one hour, so the time becomes 3am. And on the last Sunday in March the clocks will be turned back one hour to the standard time.
This means that the sun, according to the clock, now rises an hour later, 5:30 am instead of 4:30 as the case is now.
In the afternoon/evening, it means that the sun will then set an hour later.
The lenght of day, Sun-rise to Sun-set cannont change, just the way we judge the time.
Basically your begin your day one hour ahead what you do right now. If you start work at 9 now, with the change of the clocks you still start at 9am, but because of the change of clocks, your really at work at 8am standard time.
Time is just an invention, a way to measure things. People forget this But because so many things in the modern world are judged or measured by time alot of people confuse what it is and how it affects their lives.
Good Luck WA.
Now can someone open a shop I need some Pet Food and Canned Fruit and a news paper!! Currently Illegal under the Retail Retail Shops and Fair Trading Legislation
Amendment Bill 2005 |
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By: bovine_blue
22/11/2006
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"Good Luck WA.
Now can someone open a shop I need some Pet Food and Canned Fruit and a news paper!! Currently Illegal under the Retail Retail Shops and Fair Trading Legislation
Amendment Bill 2005"
The local deli should have all that for you. |
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By: k_horth
22/11/2006
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mackkiwi wrote
"Basically your begin your day one hour ahead what you do right now. If you start work at 9 now, with the change of the clocks you still start at 9am, but because of the change of clocks, your really at work at 8am standard time."
And what about the people who in real time get up at 5am to be at work by 6am and need to go to bed at 9pm to get a good 8 hours sleep?
My brother is one of these people, when DLS, he'll be getting up at 4am real time and starting work 5am real time, then to top it of he'll be going to bed at sun set in the hight of summer when the temperature is still hovering around the 20 degree mark.
Yeah DLS is really far on him and his co-workers, NOT !!!!! |
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By: jaykaye_09
22/11/2006
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| The local deli is also more expensive than the local Coles, Woolworths etc. |
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By: bovine_blue
22/11/2006
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"The local deli is also more expensive than the local Coles, Woolworths etc."
So you have the choice of organising yourself to go to the supermarket or paying for the convenience. If we make small retailers compete with coles and woolies, they will be forced out of the market and prices will go up once it's just those two left. |
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By: wildcat9973
22/11/2006
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| Western Australia has just turned into a communist state. To satisfy city folk. We have voted three time's for this & three time's the NO vote has won!!! Is the USA going to invade W.A because democracy has failed the majority....doubt it. If you want to save an hour of daylight, start work earlier. Bugger the Eastern State's they can do there own thing, they have never given a fat rat's k,nacker about us except we provide them with money to support the rest of Australia. What's this calling Perth Dullsville, Perth isn't W.A. If you don't like our state bugger off we can do without you. The bill has been forward by a Corrupt politician(Dorazio) & an oposition Reject(Birney) need I say more. The YES vote need's that extra hour a day to get a life. |
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By: mackkiwi
22/11/2006
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k_horth wrote
"And what about the people who in real time get up at 5am to be at work by 6am and need to go to bed at 9pm to get a good 8 hours sleep?
My brother is one of these people, when DLS, he'll be getting up at 4am real time and starting work 5am real time, then to top it of he'll be going to bed at sun set in the hight of summer when the temperature is still hovering around the 20 degree mark."
There is another human invention called Airconditioning. When I get home from work from my second job in the weekends between 4 & 6am I have to sleep with the heat of the day, so when I get up around midday it's a nice summer temp of 25, 30 maybe more. If you don't like the weather here move somewhere else!!
wildcat9973, If you think that this is a communist state, why don't you go and hang out in Northern Korea for the next 3 years while everyone else enjoys the DLS. Then you can make an informed choice about your wild statements.
If you think that DLS is that bad, go ask any number of people under the age of 30 what is is. If they can give you an accurate description of what DLS is and how it works, then I'll bet they would want DLs, If they can't answer what is even is then you better ask those same people in 3 years. Again I'll bet they will be for it, along with the vast majority of other in the state.
That is how people get understand what a benefit this can be.
And those Warmongers who are scared of change, then I suggest you throw out your computer, cell phones, DVD's Stero's, Cars, jet ski's and pleasure craft, and all those other things that have changed the world in the past 200 years!! |
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By: ausgal951753
22/11/2006
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wildcat - (Western Australia has just turned into a communist state. To satisfy city folk. We have voted three time's for this & three time's the NO vote has won!!! Is the USA going to invade)
You also vote for your goverment every few years but dont complain about that do you.
People and populations change over a number of years. The population of WA has had a influx of migrants from other states and countries. They are entitled to a vote.
The arguments for DLS are so strong, the goverment is only being fair by offering a trial and a vote.
Anyway I am looking forward to my 3 years of DLS then a vote.
Hopefully the darksiders will see the light and we will have DLS for a lot longer.
Time to stop all arguments and enjoy our nice light evenings. |
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By: garyf64au
22/11/2006
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| so liv.. what you are really saying is not to have daylight saving but having the same time as eastern states...cause you will never be on the same time ever |
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