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By: spikethru4
15/11/2006
4:08 pm

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"if the clocks are an hour forward during winter it is going to be damn dark when you get up in the morning!"

That's OK. I don't do anything that requires natural light first thing in the morning. I'd much prefer it to still be light when I get home from work, so I can de-craze the dog, for example.

By: taking_the_piss182
15/11/2006
5:16 pm

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yes but in winter it wouldnt be light after work even with daylight saving. pick july 15th for an example. on that day sunrise is normally at 7.15am and sunset is at 5.30pm. with daylight saving it would be 8.15am for sunrise and 6.30pm for sunset. youd probably only get about and extra half an hour at the end of the day whereas you would have to get ready and drive to work while its still dark in the morning. and remember its winter so the weather isnt that great here in perth.

By: jaydenardi
15/11/2006
5:43 pm

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Just a short note to say that "Day Light Savings" is only within the Summer months, isnt that the whole point for Day Light Savings? So 'YES' for Day Light Savings for me!!

By: gdw210au
15/11/2006
7:31 pm

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I ALLWAYS THOUGHT WE WERE A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY THEN WHY ARE WE LETTING THE SO CALLED GOVT ( FED OR STATE ) MAKE OUR DECICIONS FOR US.STAND & BE COUNTED BEFOR THEY COUNT FOR US.WE TELL THEM WHAT TO DO THEY DONT TELL US HOW MANY TIMES A DAY WE CAN DO THINGS

By: garyf64au
15/11/2006
7:52 pm

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we are only a democratic country as far as we elect the parliament but then we suffer or whatever they decide to do ... there is no true democratic country

By: maladytoots
15/11/2006
8:10 pm

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I believe daylights savings in WA is only for the city folk.
Being in the country the days are long and hot as it is without having an extra hour of daylight.
I believe they need to think more of the country people.

By: yorkytyke1
15/11/2006
10:13 pm

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About bloody time, C'mon Perth drag yourself into the 21st century.

By: mackkiwi
15/11/2006
11:23 pm

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Most of us want Daylight savings!! Most being all the people that weren't born here....

And to those who seem to think that daylight adds another hour of daylight!! You’re really proving your IQ!! The Day still starts and finishes at Midnight, it is not possible to just slot in another hour somewhere. That’s not what Daylight savings are about!!

It simply means that times are adjusted to allow more time in the evening with daylight. In this case one hour. So instead of the sun being up at 04:30 in the morning when almost everyone is still asleep, this changes to 05:30,

Put another way: one less in the morning, one more in the evening.

Bring on the Daylight savings!!

If you’re worried about fading curtains go spend a summer in either the Artic or Ant-artic. Where for part of the year the sun never sets!

Now that’s a long day!!

You don't see them complaining.

I remember summers in NZ where often it could still be twilight at 10pm. Great stuff for a night down at the beach!!

By: mackkiwi
15/11/2006
11:40 pm

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Yes: taking_the_piss182 the daylight savings is only a change during the summer months, hence why for part of the year, you can't get a hold of anyone in business' in Vic, NSW & Tassie after 2pm here. Makes for a short business day if you rely on contact with businesses over there to get your work done here.

More flexible working hours would be a great way to deal with this weather we have daylight savings or not. If this idea was widely used it could also reduce congestion on the roads and trains at peak times, but that would need one of two things, a more relaxed ruling on trading hours, where have I heard that before? Or Senior staff and Management getting out of bed early. I don't see either happening real soon.

I have heard of a couple of business' that start at around 5am, but that is so they can trade during the ASX trading hours. I don't see too many WA companies getting behind this idea. Quick trip to work in the morning!! And finish around 2pm!

Now that is daylight saving!!!

5 hours after work!!

Woohoo!!!

By: jaydenardi
16/11/2006
12:55 pm

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Hi Yorkytyke1, justa wondering if you are from York? if u are pop me a email. jayde1184@hotmail.com

By: kingerikcantona
16/11/2006
1:36 pm

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I would like to see the arguments about faded curtains or was that created by a lightsider? (I spose opposite to the darkside)

and Jim McGinty saying that people who are against Daylight saving live in the Dark Ages well we are only in the dark ages cos of ediots like politicians that have screwed the health system, DCD and so forth!!

Just shows the IQ needed to be a politician and the very bad attempt at name calling!

By: kingerikcantona
16/11/2006
1:39 pm

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ausgal - I have been down south numerous times going to the wineries, chocolate facotry, cheese places, caves, beaches and many of the restaurants. Place I like is the Forest Rise Eco Retreat and would recommend it. It is an adult retreat and me and my wife stayed there for a week and each morning a kanagroo and its joey would come up to the verandah!! Don't get that anywhere else!

By: tickfen
17/11/2006
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Personally i don`t give a rats if we have daylight saving or not...however i am really p!ssed off that WA pollies have decided to decide for us and to make it a priority when there are so many other issues that are much more important, and you all know what they are.

By: spikethru4
17/11/2006
12:04 pm

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"however i am really p!ssed off that WA pollies have decided to decide for us"

But they haven't decided to decide for us. All they've decided to do is have a trial and then let the people decide. And they can't even decide to do that!

We (well, you - I can't vote yet, not a citizen) elect politicians to make decisions on our behalf. They almost always "decide to decide for us". On this occasion, they WILL be letting us decide, so stop whinging about it and cast your vote in three years - if they can ever get their ar$es in gear and approve the trial.

By: kingerikcantona
17/11/2006
2:07 pm

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remember you are trusting politicians to allow us all to vote after the 3 year period. What are the odds that come 3 years it will be "forgotten" or they will change their minds and keep it.

I guess it will matter what crisis is happening at the time!

By: hgrossmith
17/11/2006
2:18 pm

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Always said if big business feels disadvantaged by the East going to daylight saving then they should change their work hours for the 6 months its on. They must also be prepared to pressure the state to provide additional public transport etc so people can comply with the hours.

With the weather we have I fail to see a need for it in summer but would argue it would be great in winter to get home with some light left in the day.

By: garyf64au
17/11/2006
5:36 pm

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we are the approx the same size as usa and they have multiple time zones and we never here that they want 1 time zone right across the country.. they have more people than Aust so the arguments about business and the like do not wash.. it all goes back to pollies wanting to make a mark for themselves not what the people want.... jsut look at who put up this bill.. 2 has beens from both sides.... i hope they both get booted out at the next election

By: ic_lady
17/11/2006
6:37 pm

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"They WILL be letting us decide, so stop whinging about it and cast your vote in three years - if they can ever get their ar$es in gear and approve the trial."

west austalians have already been asked on three separate occasions 1975, 1984 and 1992...every time the answer has been a resounding no...the reason the people of w.a. are not being allowed to have their say is because the answer will be no...

these politicians are not listening now to what the people want and they will not listen in three years time...

i believe it will have a negative effect on the environment...more people investing in air conditioners...more people investing in backyard swimming pools...more people driving to places to find relief from the heat...etc etc...

By: ic_lady
17/11/2006
7:13 pm

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the way i see it...it's the eastern states who need to get out of the "darkages"...after all the only reason these states abide by the daylight saving policy is because they are clinging onto the old traditions of mother england...yes the uk definitely benefits from changing the clocks...but australia in general does not have the same climate as the uk...

i say get with the times and pull into line with the progressive and most resourceful state w.a.(by this i mean entire state of western australia..not just perth)

By: jaykaye_09
17/11/2006
7:41 pm

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WA....progressive???

By: jaykaye_09
17/11/2006
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'i believe it will have a negative effect on the environment...more people investing in air conditioners...more people investing in backyard swimming pools...more people driving to places to find relief from the heat...etc etc...'

-ic_lady

I really find it a bit of a stretch that an extended 'daylight' period of 1 hour will cause people, who haven't already done so, to invest heavily in airconditiong units, swimming pools etc.

By: jaykaye_09
17/11/2006
7:45 pm

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'west austalians have already been asked on three separate occasions 1975, 1984 and 1992...every time the answer has been a resounding no...the reason the people of w.a. are not being allowed to have their say is because the answer will be no...

these politicians are not listening now to what the people want and they will not listen in three years time...'

-ic_lady

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

We elect members of parliment every so often, so why not a vote on issues such as daylight savings? The demographics of voters have somewhat changed since 1992.

By: ic_lady
18/11/2006
3:11 am

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jaykaye...

"progressive"
when im talking about w.a. im not talking about perth...im talking about the entire state of w.a.

"We elect members of parliment every so often, so why not a vote on issues such as daylight savings?"

im not quite sure what you mean here?...i think the people of w.a. should vote on the issue of daylight saving...

By: ic_lady
18/11/2006
3:20 am

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"I really find it a bit of a stretch that an extended 'daylight' period of 1 hour will cause people, who haven't already done so, to invest heavily in airconditiong units, swimming pools etc."

i respect your opinion...but people will make irrational decisions even if the period is for 1 hour...

having lived through a period of daylight saving and voted against it i think im more qualified to share my thoughts on
this matter...

and a question i asked the other day and still have not received an answer...why is it necessary for the eastern states to change their clocks?...its it purely and "outdated" british tradition...

By: ic_lady
18/11/2006
3:38 am

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for jaykay's perusal...

"progressive - Moving forward; advancing"

"Western Australia has the highest per capita output of any Australian state, with an economy that has been largely based on the extraction and export of mining and petroleum commodities, especially, iron, alumina, natural gas, nickel and gold. Western Australia is a leading alumina extractor, producing more than 20% of the world's aluminium. It is also the world's third-largest iron ore producer, producing around 15% of the world's total iron ore output. Western Australia also extracts up to 75% of Australia's 240 tonnes of gold.

Western Australia's economy recently has benefited from an unprecedented amount of foreign demand for resources, particularly from China. This has contributed to strong GSP growth. Perth has emerged as a significant administration centre for businesses in the mineral and oil and gas industries.

Agricultural exports are also important, especially wheat, barley and sheep products such as wool and meat. In recent years, tourism has grown in importance, with the majority of visitors coming from the United Kingdom and Ireland, Singapore, Japan and Malaysia

Western Australia, with about 10% of Australia's population, has historically generated approximately 30% of Australia's export revenues, however the recent commodities boom has pushed this figure to almost 40%. High incomes, strong corporate activity, lower unemployment, mineral revenue and a younger population mean that Western Australia provides a significant financial subsidy to all other states. The economic boom in Western Australia is so strong that a significant labour shortage has emerged. The state government has launched an appeal for more people to move to the growing state at. Very high levels of job vacancies have emerged and unless skilled workers can be found, the state government fears that significant economic opportunities may be lost."
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