By: ophiuchus14
1/04/2009
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| Just wondering if you have any views on the possible extension of trading hours being looked at by the current state government. |
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By: falnoc4
2/04/2009
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if they come in, i will be calling for another trial of DLS.
governments can not be selective on referendums. |
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By: trevorsteamboat
2/04/2009
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This topic has been thrashed to death on these boards. And your really just setting up an invitation for napier rash to come back.
But while were on it, extended trading on weeknights will begin sometime before the end of the year. Sunday trading you can probaly rule out until at least the next state election. |
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By: trevorsteamboat
2/04/2009
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"governments can not be selective on referendums."
Govenments are elected to govern, not hold referendums on every contentious issue. I didnt vote for Barnett but at the same time he was elected and should govern the state how he sees fit. Bit i do realize that both the dls and trading hours referendums were Labor ideas |
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By: falnoc4
2/04/2009
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| DLS was a joint lab/lib bill. |
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By: trevorsteamboat
2/04/2009
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| Labor, as the head of the ruling party at the time, could of avoided the referendum. They could have tried to implement it, even though they may have had trouble pushing it through. |
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3/04/2009
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By: napier48
3/04/2009
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| Yes WA really is a backwater , Discussing Daylight savings & weekend trading for god's sake , everywhere else in the country has had these for 20+ years & they are great , what is the matter with you miserable lot of kiljoys ? |
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By: ophiuchus14
3/04/2009
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| I did not want discussion on DLS (though personally I think I we need it during the winter months, not summer), just trading hours. |
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By: falnoc4
3/04/2009
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| trading hours went to a referendum only recently. the vote was no. |
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By: sandpants66
3/04/2009
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| sunday trading is great! unless your the poor baarstard that has to work... |
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By: peaceleo69
4/04/2009
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| well put sandpants! |
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By: ophiuchus14
4/04/2009
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sunday trading is great! unless your the poor baarstard that has to work...
Though funny, the prospect of money does seem quite alluring |
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By: foxhound363
4/04/2009
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| Just a quiet one,nothing comes for free,so how much in extra cost is this going to cost the sunday shopper? |
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By: jaykaye_09
5/04/2009
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Foxhound, extended trading won't cost the Sunday shopper any extra...
And like Trevor said, we're only going to introduce extended weeknight trading, not Sunday trading. That's reserved for everywhere else in Australia, regional WA included, except Perth.
...go figure.
And hi everyone. Hope you're keeping well. |
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By: mintie_boy
5/04/2009
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When I was at uni and school I use to love working Saturdays and Sundays ... got paid more!!!
You will also find a lot of students have limited employment opportunities because of no extended trading or Sunday trading.
Also many stay home parents would benefit ... I know many mums who can only work part time hours because of only being able to work whilst child at school, yet on the weekend their partner doesn't work so they could if the opportunities were there.
So many would gratefully work on the weekend (and remember most in the retail would probably not work every day during the week either).
I think the referendum a couple of years ago was a good waste of money as it has to come in eventually. The economics will dictate it!
Oh yeah and for the small business argument. WA has one of the slowest small business growth in the country ... yet according to so many of these boards WA has the strongest economy ... doesn't really add up does it then. |
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By: foxhound363
5/04/2009
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| G'day jaykaye,as I said,nothing is for free.I was up at Armadale not long ago and stopped at farmer jacks.Its open until 10 o'clock every night.Go and have a look at their prices and then tell me extended trading is not going to cost.Be a cold day in hell before I go back there again.also,what sort of drop kicks need to shop at 10 o'clock at night? |
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By: peaceleo69
6/04/2009
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I was listening to the radio and they were talking about the extended trading hours overseas and how when the big companies had driven the smaller ones out-the prices in these areas; where only the big companies operated-were way higher than thier prices in areas where they had competion and restricted hours.
You get the convenience-but you pay for it in the end-with higher prices, less jobs and restricted produce on the shelves.
And it is so selective-many of us have difficulty going to govt departments during normal hours-why shouldnt they all be open 7 days with extended hours-they are more difficult to access than retail outlets!
And how about services such as Drs and Dentists; which it is hard to get into during day time hours-if it sauce for the goose-make it open slather for all! |
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By: jaykaye_09
6/04/2009
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Simple economics would go a long way with some on here.
Farmer Jacks can charge more on a Sunday because it has no competition. Talking about the prices overseas is irrelevant as the market forces are completely different. Instead, look around Australia, and indeed, WA, where extended trading has, if anything, driven prices down... The argument that jobs decrease, and produce reduces is again, another fallacy with no evidence whatsoever to support it.
...small business numbers haven't significantly changed either. Smaller, inefficient retailers may shut, simply because people no longer have to pay increased prices for a lesser selelection of goods. Smart businesses adapt, for example, by appealing to a particular market, by offering better service, quality and so forth.
At the moment, consumer demand is what is predominantly driving this push for extended trading. Should the same demand arise in regards to government departments, banks etc. then so be it. Feel free to take up the cause(s) yourselves. However, that is neither here nor there.
Wake up, do the research and stop falling for those fallacies perpetuated by the Independent Grocers Association (one of the few grocery retailers allowed to open "extended" hours). |
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By: rygar069
6/04/2009
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G'day Jay :)
Well said dude... |
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By: foxhound363
6/04/2009
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| G'day jaykaye,I stand by what I said,nothing is for free.Extended hours are going to cost.Anyway,there are those who are going to find this out the hard way.Welcome to progress?By the way,farmer jacks is open 7 days a week,so when extended trading comes into being,watch out for the wounded bull. |
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By: jaykaye_09
6/04/2009
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Hi fox,
As I said enough evidence exists within Australia and WA, which shows that prices will not increase. If anything, the increased competition will lead to an overall reduction in weeklly grocery bills - at least for those forced to shop in the select high price grocers that currently do open on Sunday.
Additional costs incurred by the stores willl be recovered not through higher prices, but merely increased spending by consumers.
Meanwhile, the likes of Farmer Jacks will be forced to reduce prices in order to compete with Coles and Woolworths.
There is no basis to suggest that prices will rise. They simply won't. |
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By: foxhound363
7/04/2009
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| G'day jaykaye,gotta disagree.Farmer Jacks won't lower their prices and coles and woolies are not charitable organisations.They will under cut until all competition is annhialated and then watch out for the wounded bulls,because that is what they will be charging like. |
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