By: saos1n888
21/09/2008
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A 40-YEAR-OLD man has died in hospital after being injured in an alleged one-punch attack at his Wanneroo home on Friday night.
A man was charged with assault causing grievous bodily harm after the incident left James Lizatovich fighting for his life with a head injury and on life-support in intensive care at Royal Perth Hospital yesterday.
He was allegedly hit during an argument over graffiti scrawled on a motorbike outside his Bonnievale Tce home on Friday night.
Major Crime Squad and Joondalup detectives charged a 24-year-old roof carpenter from Hocking with grievous bodily harm.
He was arrested shortly after 9am yesterday and held in custody to appear in Joondalup Magistrates Court on Monday.
Mr Lizatovich's partner of 17 years, their children, an eight-year-old daughter and seven-year-old son, and a couple of other children having a sleep-over were at the house at the time of of the attack.
Police said two men were with the victim when a dispute inside the home spilled into the garden.
After the incident the pair, both 24, left on a motorbike.
Detective Senior Sgt Martin Crane said: ``The understanding at this stage is the victim suffered one punch to the left temple causing an injury to the left eye socket.
He fell backwards and banged his head on the concrete, giving him a significant head injury.
He said the alleged offender had gone to the victim's house to see a mutual friend and show him his motorbike.
``There was an allegation that some needless grafitti was written on the motorcycle which then progressed to a verbal argument that led to a physical altercation out the front of the house.
``It was a very trivial initial incident that once again led to needless violence and has left two families absolutely destroyed.''
The mutual friend was located at his house and helped police with their investigations.
Major crime, forensic and uniformed police cordoned off the street until lunchtime while they carried out inqu ... |
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By: saos1n888
21/09/2008
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Charge this fool with murder. Dont give him 10 years give him life.
Who cares if you didnt mean to kill the guy, your intentions were to knock him out. It is all too clear that a punch to the head can cause death.
Get this w4nker for all he is worth! |
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By: weed612001
21/09/2008
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| Oh shut up!! Do you only come here to watch for things like that? Are you tittilated by your own outrage and wollowing in every nasty thing that happens? Sad things happen all the time ,if you wallow in it it can consume you!! |
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By: jaykaye_09
22/09/2008
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'Charge this fool with murder. Dont give him 10 years give him life'
-saos
Yes, because that will surely solve the problem.
Honestly, do you people just thrive off The West Australian and 6PR? |
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By: rov1njez
22/09/2008
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| The people that go to jail over this should be main roads and the local councils maybe they should go back to the old softer formula for footpaths and roads then all these people would have survived when their head hit the pavements. |
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By: bnb6154
22/09/2008
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What is it with the 'one punch death' do you think.
Is it just that the media have got onto it and we hear so much more about it or is it actually happening more and if so why. I dont think the concrete is any harder than it used to be!
Throughout the years there have always been stoushes - whether it be at the pub or at a mates place after one or two too many drinks.
Very sad thing for everyone concerned - I do think we need to let the police and courts decide the outcome before we hand draw and quarter the hitter here. |
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By: ozchickwa
23/09/2008
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Throw the book at him.
It's about time people realized that violence doesn't solve anything.
Charge him with manslaughter, lock him up and throw away the key.
Let him be an example to all the other DH's out there. |
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By: jaykaye_09
23/09/2008
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Yep. That will solve the problem...
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By: djmichelle@ymail.com
23/09/2008
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| I hope you have a son or a brother or any type of male figure you respet in your family, that has to one night defend himself in a fight, knocks the other person out and then that person dies and has to ie in jail. IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANY BODY! even urself. you dont know what happened that night, of course the media wont say that the 40yo started it! and ur the fkn W4nker i suggest u keep ur opinions to urself coz one day it may be you! |
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By: iforgotthelastidimade
23/09/2008
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| Um people post here to voice their opinions or hadn't you noticed? |
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By: louarna
24/09/2008
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| um hello have you not noticed the size difference in the two men for a start. you too probably don't know what happened the night in question? how would you feel if it was your loved one that died? atleast the 24year olds friends and family get to see him even if it is behind bars. Two children have lost their dad and their mum has lost her partner, never too see again. I would rather have my love one alive wouldn't you. |
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By: saos1n888
24/09/2008
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He was the one who instigated the problems by going to the mans house about some paint on a motorbike..
Im not stupid enough to want to even try king hit someone... especially in the temples.
Everyone is taught from a young age to not hit people in the temples and to not slap people over the ears.
The forums may not be the best place for you to be nor australia. We have a freedom of speech and the right to voice opinions. If you dont like it maybe you need to look into cancelling your asccount and moving to a place where you cant have an opinion. China sounds good. |
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By: saos1n888
24/09/2008
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| Also I wouldnt be stupid enough to punch a guy in the head infront of kids.. |
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By: djmichelle@ymail.com
24/09/2008
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| at the end of the day im sure if the guy knew it would kill the other person he wouldnt have done it. just like u. like u all on here a perfect??? im sure u have all done something fkt up in ur lives. im sure that one day u will feel the pain im feeling now. at the end of the day its an accident thats why that word was created. im sure if this was ur brother or father you would see the other side. u never think it will happen to u but u know what it does. |
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By: saos1n888
24/09/2008
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As I said Im never stupid enough to punch someone in the head. It is now well known how easily someone can die from a punch in the head...
what do you think happens when you punch someone in the head? Same as in the arm? They get a dead head and a bruise but dont stack it?
Its one thing about not being perfect its another thing being a retard. This guy was a retard.
And Im sure djmichelle, if it was your father or brother that was punched in the head infront of you and your friends at such a young age you would feel very differently. Actually, it wouldnt even need to be family/ It would be anyone you have a relationship - good or bad. |
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By: saos1n888
24/09/2008
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Also, you must take into account the financial pressure he has now put on this family. Theyhave lost an income but not only have they lost that income they have more expenses to be paid such as a funeral. Do you know how much a standard funeral costs?
They could be very well at risk of losing everything due to a single income and Im sure this 'guy who just made a mistake' wont be selling everything he owns off and financially supporting these people until the kids are old enough to support themselves now will he? |
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By: ozchickwa
24/09/2008
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"As I said Im never stupid enough to punch someone in the head."
Have to agree with you saos, the key word being "stupid".
My hubby had to sort a bloke out at a party once(some DH thought it was OK to king hit a woman because he didn't like her) and hubby did so with out punching the guy in the head and killing him. The bloke got put in his place and no one got seriously hurt. The DH claimed he was jumped from behind by 6 other guys, lol.
This situation was extreme and I only condoned it because the guy was going to keep hitting this woman and the DH had to be stopped.
But my hubby knows how to fight and only weaklings feel the need to punch heads for fun. |
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By: kratos500027
24/09/2008
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Very sad that a man is dead.
The public will never know enough about it to make a proper judgment on who was right, wrong, justified or not.
Mandatory sentencing in one punch cases is BAAAAd news.
You could in effect be penalising someone for defending themselves.
ozchick - "hubby did so with out punching the guy in the head and killing him. The bloke got put in his place and no one got seriously hurt"
That is what will happen in 99% of cases, why the knee jerk reaction to the 1%? |
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By: jaykaye_09
24/09/2008
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'That is what will happen in 99% of cases, why the knee jerk reaction to the 1%?'
-kratos
Because the media said so...?
I agree, the 'one punch' legislation is going to set a dangerous precedent. |
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By: ozchickwa
25/09/2008
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'That is what will happen in 99% of cases, why the knee jerk reaction to the 1%?'
Because it's that 1% who thinks it is above the law. Its that 1% that punches in the head knowing full well it could kill.
Not only that in the scenario I described it is called a fight. More that one punch was thrown and none at the head. If, in a worst case scenario, that sort of action results in a death it is called being beaten to death. That's still not a good thing but at least the other guy stands a chance.
In a 1 punch scenario the other guy usually doesn't get a chance. Half of the victoms of these cowardly attacks don't even see the punch coming. It's a gutless act by idiots who deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
That's the reason for the knee jerk reaction.
If you don't see the difference then I know what group you belong to. |
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By: kratos500027
25/09/2008
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"If you don't see the difference then I know what group you belong to."
I belong to the group who actually understands the dynamics of a fight. You disable the threat, or it disables you.
"Not only that in the scenario I described it is called a fight. More that one punch was thrown and none at the head."
Thats not a fight, thats a primary school wrestling match. You said hubby knows how to fight? Highly unlikely based on that remark.
a little motto I've heard a lot of in martial arts training
"hit hard, hit fast, hit first"
You cannot afford to take chances, if you know they are going to attack you, you attack them first. That first attack could rock you, so you do not wait for it, you stop it from coming. |
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By: wainwrightbasil
25/09/2008
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| DID anyone notice that in every case of one punch, the receiver was dead drunk re,west aust.we all know drunks start fights as they get tough ,but a small push and they fall down,if sober if you start to fall you try to counter the fall,drunk you just flop and smash yuor head,me after 12yrs.boxing and then teaching boxing not one fell and did any damage,at 72 i stil love a beer and see these idiots in the bar every week end.put the age back to 21 then they control the drinking,the drunk causes the fight and dies,all his family suffer,but worse the defenders family and him suffer all so much.JUST CAUSE ONE CANT HOLD HIS BOOSE. YES BACK TO 21YO.pubs would go broke as the older ones control drinking,yes all the 1 punch victimes were DRUNK |
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By: kratos500027
25/09/2008
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| I second the call...RAISE DRINKING AGE TO 21 |
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By: ozblokewa
25/09/2008
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With the real chance of upsetting the trouble & strife I disagree with her on this topic.
And kratos500027, I did exactly what you stated "hit hard,fast & first" and punching someone in the face I believe is part of the head.
What I tried to explain to ozchick was that I could of killed this bloke without any intention and would then have to face charges and be thrown in gaol and leave her and the kids to pick up the pieces. |
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By: kratos500027
25/09/2008
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i always assumed the face was part of the head!
So the idea is in a nutshell - you can hit in the face, but not the rest of the head? |
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