By: trevorsteamboat
15/03/2007
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Im just worried that by the time we get extended trading hours, the foreshore redeveloped, the indoor stadium built the the new stadium built, the Perth to Fremantle train line sank and Northbridge redeveloped we will be all dead.
Because if it doesnt rain soon were all going to die.... |
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By: forcegolf
15/03/2007
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By: trevorsteamboat
13 minutes ago
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"20 years from now people will either be muslims or atheist"
And Im being absurd?
You think that it is absurd to say that people will be muslims or atheist, shows how little of a grasp of this place you have. Go to our schools, ask the young, if they believe in God, the responses I am sure will shock you. Those that believe in a Judea/Christian God are rapidly diminishing. Islam is in a rampant growth mode throughout Asia and is booming here in Perth. Of course there will always be cultural Christians and Jews here in Perth, they will however not be a majority and their field of influence has so dramatically diminished, that they are just marking time. Like the ostrich, your head is buried in the sand, you have no objectivity and you clearly have no idea what Perth is really like. Remember, ignorance breeds arrogance, which breeds a false sense of who one is and their capabilities. |
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By: trevorsteamboat
15/03/2007
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No forcegolf, what you said was that 20 years from now people will be either muslims or atheist. Either, as in one of the other. Maybe you should watch your vocabulary?
Those who believe in a Judea/Christian God are rapidly diminishing. Big deal. How is that the fault of any other religion? Unlike the US, Australia has never been a deeply religious country and even though we consider ourselves a Christian society, this really is quite a laughable idea. Im Catholic. The only time I go to Church is for weddings and i dont understand how this is the fault of any other religion or its people and their influence on me. Its just the way i was brought up.
Im ignorant? In your eyes, maybe, actually probaly in the majority eyes because you are on of this rapidly growing group of people that belive that our way of life is under attack because of the influence of other religions in our culture blah blah blah. Heard it all before and theres plenty of redneck rascist zealots on other message boards that you can spill on about this $hit to because Im sick of hearing it.
Like an ostrich with my head in the sand maybe. Rather that then having my head up my @$$ |
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By: trevorsteamboat
15/03/2007
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| My sons 5 and Ive never spoken to him about god and for the mean time I have no reason to? So whos fault is that? |
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By: forcegolf
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By: trevorsteamboat
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No forcegolf, what you said was that 20 years from now people will be either muslims or atheist. Either, as in one of the other. Maybe you should watch your vocabulary?
Those who believe in a Judea/Christian God are rapidly diminishing. Big deal. How is that the fault of any other religion? Unlike the US, Australia has never been a deeply religious country and even though we consider ourselves a Christian society, this really is quite a laughable idea. Im Catholic. The only time I go to Church is for weddings and i dont understand how this is the fault of any other religion or its people and their influence on me. Its just the way i was brought up.
Im ignorant? In your eyes, maybe, actually probaly in the majority eyes because you are on of this rapidly growing group of people that belive that our way of life is under attack because of the influence of other religions in our culture blah blah blah. Heard it all before and theres plenty of redneck rascist zealots on other message boards that you can spill on about this $hit to because Im sick of hearing it.
Like an ostrich with my head in the sand maybe. Rather that then having my head up my @$$
This post says it all, first that your ignorance is showing. The clear context of my post was not about religion, rather how our apathy is responsible for the changes coming Perth's way. Your response to my entire posts, was all about religion, showing that you clearly did not grasp what was being said. You even stated that I thought that our lifestyle was changing because of other religions, when in fact I was quite clear in saying that it was our apathy, our refusing to change that was bringing about the changes. Then you have the audacity to align me with "redneck racist zealots" then conclude with vulgar language. Wonder why non thinkers respond with aggression when things go over their head? Maybe it is because they feel threatened, out of
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By: forcegolf
15/03/2007
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By: trevorsteamboat
43 minutes ago
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My sons 5 and Ive never spoken to him about god and for the mean time I have no reason to? So whos fault is that?
Wonder if you have spoken to him about right or wrong, or do you just leave it up to the school system to guide your child? |
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By: ausgal951753
15/03/2007
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Perth is like a beatiful photo of the setting sun, all you can do is look at it.
It needs waking up, red tape removed and please please give us a goverment that can make decisions that are best for Perth without worrying what the public think and about votes. There is no need for these stupid referendums if the changes benifit WA. If it is best the public see that and will come around.
So lets have our 7 day trading and DLS, lets bring in the tourists, build resorts on Ningaloo, rottnest and *iss the vegan greenies off. |
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By: trevorsteamboat
15/03/2007
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"wonder if you have spoken to him about right or wrong or do you just leave it up to the school system to guide your child" forcegolf
No, I teach him right and wrong. I just dont preach the word of the Lord to him. Ill let him make up his own mind. |
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By: forcegolf
15/03/2007
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By: ausgal951753
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Perth is like a beatiful photo of the setting sun, all you can do is look at it.
It needs waking up, red tape removed and please please give us a goverment that can make decisions that are best for Perth without worrying what the public think and about votes. There is no need for these stupid referendums if the changes benifit WA. If it is best the public see that and will come around.
So lets have our 7 day trading and DLS, lets bring in the tourists, build resorts on Ningaloo, rottnest and *iss the vegan greenies off.
If we do all of the above and dramatically improve not only our infrastructure, which is sadly lacking (education, transport)but also our attitude, service, quality etc, then and only then can Perth be all that it can be! |
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By: forcegolf
15/03/2007
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By: trevorsteamboat
24 minutes ago
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"wonder if you have spoken to him about right or wrong or do you just leave it up to the school system to guide your child" forcegolf
No, I teach him right and wrong. I just dont preach the word of the Lord to him. Ill let him make up his own mind.
Nobody said anything about religion, just question what set of morays your child is being taught? |
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By: trevorsteamboat
15/03/2007
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Why would you question what sort of morals I teach my son? Just because I dont teach him about God, and lets be honest we are talking about religion here.
Do you have kids? Do you believe its right to teach your kids that other religions are going to become the dominant believes in this country if we dont act now? |
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By: forcegolf
15/03/2007
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| You keep on bringing up religion, is it a phobia? The point of the religions changing was not a theological point, rather sociological. Perth is not being taken away, rather given, trough our apathy. Not sure why you keep coming back to religion, are you feeling guilty or something? |
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By: kepswa
15/03/2007
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Actually I wasn't exaggerating one bit when I said the southern railway project was 100 years overdue.
It will be 2008 before the southern suburbs get a train line and you think I'm exaggerating? Or is this yet another shot from a NOR resident finally realising that there is a settlement 'on the other side.' If it's the latter make sure you get your visa validated before your next visit to Garden City :-)
Rail has always been the future for any city. Contrary to Sir Charles Court's vision of countless diesel buses to get caught in the same traffic jams as the cars they are trying to beat (honestly, what was he thinking).
In Perth, car is king, period. And that's nothing to be proud of. When I was in high school we were told that Perth was the highest car per capita city IN THE WORLD.
Cities should never have been built without efficient arterial public transport. And everyone should be within a reasonable distance to rail services. I live in the City of Melville and therefore the closest railway station is..... Perth and Fremantle both about 10-15 KILOMETRES AWAY!
If I was designing the SRP, I would have made it tunnel under the Swan, put a subway station in South Perth (probably Mends St), another in Como and then after surfacing, onwards south.
If anyone wants to see how much better life would be with superior rail system I recommend visint pretty much any other European and North American city along with Sydney and Melbourne. If only we could learn a tiny bit from what they have achieved. |
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By: trevorsteamboat
16/03/2007
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"actually i wasnt exaggerating one bit when I said southern railway project was 100 years overdue"
Back in 1910 mandurah had about 150 permanent residents, everyone else was a tourist and they already had sealed roads then so that people could drive from Mandurah to Perth. Im sure the Government would have had an issue building a Perth to mandurah passenger train service when they were only catering for 150 locals (at the moment its about 50000 people) It wasnt until about the 1940s that the town started to really boom.
Some of the stops on the new mandurah line. Cockburn, Wellard and Waikiki. Most of Cockburn was bush up until about 20 years ago and Wellard has only started to develop in the last 2 years. So where was the need for the train line 100 years ago? |
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By: kepswa
16/03/2007
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Sorry, I didn't make myself clear.
A train line heading south of the river has been needed for about a century or so ie a train that goes through South Perth, Como, Canning Bridge, Brentwood and then onwards putting less pressure on the Kwinana Freeway. I know Mandurah/Rockingham could have waited quite a bit longer. |
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By: trevorsteamboat
16/03/2007
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| Brentwood. Yep. 100 years ago they would have been hanging out of the train trying to get there.... |
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By: rov1njez
17/03/2007
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Those uncylcopdia pages on Perth and Freo are so right that they should be on wiki as a factual.
Your right about one thing with the it aint broke dont fix it it is correct, because there is nothing to break in the first place. Perth City is sterile if you don't think it is you haven't been there!!! As for Public transport its that bad that to call it pathetic is a insult to pathetic. You have to drive everywhere and when you get to your destination there's no bloody parking it enough to drive you insane no wonder we have such bad road rage.
I work away so I'm back in Perth for 5 days in the fortnight and its like one of those horror movies where everything has to be shut by 5pm and everyone has to e home by that time or else some sort of demon will tear your soul apart.
The referendum on 7 days trading was a sham come people who do you think would have worked on the weekends...not sure?? well I'll tell you students they have to live as well most can't go out anyway because you need this thing called money, so people obviously arent as lucky as you and be able to smooch of their parents.
I'll let you into another little secret if woolies and coles wanted total domination they could have it in 6 months!!!!!
A proper entertainment district would be nice as well |
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By: virtually_twisted
17/03/2007
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| Just how many people who actually live in the metropolitan area actually spend time in the city? Those who do, please enlighten me as to what you find to do with yr time? I must be missing something here. Some dude on 20 metre stilts wearing face paint just doesn't do it for me! |
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By: mymiacat
17/03/2007
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| trevorsteamboat Wellard is just the latest suburb of Kwinana to be developed. The rest of Kwinana has been there a very long time. Medina, how long has that been there? My mother in law grew up there and shes 60. |
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By: jaykaye_09
19/03/2007
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It looks at this stage as if the Subiaco Oval redevelopment will go ahead, with a further development of Members Equity expected in 10 years.
Pathetic - and Perth is doing little to prove me wrong. |
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By: peaceleo69
19/03/2007
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Brentwood. Yep. 100 years ago they would have been hanging out of the train trying to get there....
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UMMM trev-do you mean :get there-or get OUT of there!!
When it was the old downmarket SHC area ,that everyone looked down on!Guess now you cant buy a home there for love or lots of money!
Actually-that was only 50 years ago! |
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By: peaceleo69
19/03/2007
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and yes-it was only 60 years ago;my Dad and his friends cut a track to drive thier cars and motorbikes thru the bush from Canning Bridge; to that area ;to build their houses by hand.
That was the sticks and there were depression era farms all round there ;so I dont think a rail line would have been warrented then!
Alltho-there was the plans for the freeway and MT henry bridge extension plotted even at that stage ;so certain areas remained bush;till that eventuated about 30 years later.
Along with recaliming some houses; as they hadnt counted on quite the growth that eventuated. |
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By: peaceleo69
19/03/2007
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as far as trains are concerned-I do wonder if it IS the way to go;as people from outer suburbs still have to drive their cars to the stations and park-so huge ashphalt areas are springing up along the lines.After the cars drive there ,so they can then camp there all day .
From reports;unless people get there early enough;there is often not any parking space to leave them and catch a train.
If provision had been made for fast bus lanes; that could stream line the collected people from many areas of the suburbs, into the central area;there would have been less need for the train ;as buses can go to all points to pick up passengers-whereas passengers have to get to trains.
For the billions of dollars spent on the rail line;I wonder if it would have not been cheaper to run more buses with a streamlined fast lane;possibly even where the train line runs now and charge people less ;to encourage them to use the service.
Somehow-I think this would have taken more cars off the roads-been cheaper to build and in the long run- cheaper to opperate. |
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By: trevorsteamboat
19/03/2007
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"the rest of Kwinana has been there for a very long time"
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Thats true, but its only being the last 15 years that theres been anything further then Farrington Road in Leeming. Therefore, i stand by my original argument that a passenger through the southern corridor, although long overdue, was not "100 years overdue" as suggested |
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By: trevorsteamboat
19/03/2007
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"UMMM trev-do you mean get there or get OUT of there! (Brentwood)"
Neither. Ive got no problem with Brentwood. Some of my best friends are Brentwoodians :) But once again, they didnt require a passenger train line there 100 years ago either. |
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