By: trevorsteamboat
16/01/2008
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| Yes Parramatta just oozes culture.... |
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By: ausgal951753
16/01/2008
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Perth is Dull..
There are some OK areas but how many times do you visit Fremantle or Northbridge before they become dull.
The beaches are fine but except for Sorrento Quay there is nothing much at the coast. Even Sorrento had a problem with the vegan inbred WA greenies before it was eventually built.
No Perth is Dull and is being held back by a minority of ludites who are jealous of other people enjoying something different. |
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By: mintie_boy
16/01/2008
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I still get the impression that the main problem with Perth is that isn't what people expect or thing a big city in Australia should be. Perth is a big suburban town ... it just doesn't have that city vibe about it. If I liked city living (which I don't) I would have to say that Perth wouldn't do it for me (Freo would be alright for a year or so, but is too small to sustain one's interest for many years).
Perth is just a bigger and more expansive version of Bunbury or Mandurah. I like the smaller feel and to me you are crazy living in Perth when the south west is so close (and the living is so much better) and you have all the services (and well if you need to visit Perth sometime it isn't that far away). |
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By: jaykaye_09
16/01/2008
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'Yes Parramatta just oozes culture....'
-trevorsteamboat
That was kind of my point, Parramatta is a bit too 'suburb' for high rise, and density, for it to have any cultural impact. |
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By: joel82au
17/01/2008
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| well actually parramatta is a city. it has a lord major like all cities. and the CBD of parramatta would be the same size as perths. so i wouldnt call it a suburb. |
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By: ausgal951753
17/01/2008
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Paramatta is actually the center of the Sydney greater metro area.
I would assume it has a vibrant community and a varied mix of races etc. |
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By: jaykaye_09
17/01/2008
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'well actually parramatta is a city. it has a lord major like all cities. and the CBD of parramatta would be the same size as perths. so i wouldnt call it a suburb'
-joel82au
Apologies. My mistake.
Looking at it's 'makeup' though, It still doesn't seem comparable to those areas I'm trying to discuss. I'm not sure what would be though. |
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By: nenewain
4/02/2008
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| jaykay 09 - I,m with you on this one. I think you are doing the right thing in moving away. It gets to the stage where you feel like u are hitting your head against the wall by staying here. I,m 34, married with 2 kids and mortgage(just got it before boom prices)Going on what many people say on this post I should just get my pipe and slippers out and accept that I should be kinda winding down now huh? No way!- just because I didnt get out of here in my 20s (I have travelled overseas for holidays but not lived over there)does not mean I will just accept the monotony of Perth life for ever more. Obviously it will be a big task to move with kids but I plan to get a job in Brisbane next year, rent the house out, and live over there for a couple of years. I,m not expecting Brisbane to be perfect but at least it will be something different. The alternative of staying here year after year is too depressing. Basically my point is that the frustrations people feel about Perth do not disappear just because u have kids and are not single. |
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By: deathcabdriver
4/02/2008
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Perth is Dullsville, I say this because I love Perth and I want it to change for the better. Unfortunately the rules of chess seem to change faster than the prevailing laws and attitudes in Perth.
I'm lucky to be born in Perth and I'm also lucky to have visited and lived in some great cities around the world so I can compare and contrast.
Coming back here I felt I had entered a police/nanny state with way too many rules. There is no real reason why we can't have 24hr, seven day a week trading. And there's no reason why we can't have relaxed alcohol trading laws like any other international western city. We could also easily support an extensive tram network like we used to in the 1950's.
It's terribly frustrating but the people who make the laws in Perth are often very closed minded and afraid. I'm not sure what they're afraid of though... themselves perhaps?
Maybe they think they need all these laws.
I know I don't. Most other people in the western world don't either... |
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By: revoluti0nized
5/02/2008
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Ive figured it out...the reason why so many people are opposed to change here is because theyre so used to the laws stayin the same over the years. it seems like there are so many people here who just stay in Perth all their lives and generations just come and go and never go anywhere outside of Perth - which in my mind is kinda sad.
Time for people to rally forth and get some motivation and make Perth a better place. We're just missing out on so much over here its depressing. |
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By: bulldoost
5/02/2008
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i do love perth - i did live in vienna, cairo, many other cities which i mentioned early - yet, i find perth one of most desirable cities to live in! i find it bit on the boring side but not due to yearning for mindnight half pound steak at coles, or definite need for thread and needle at 2am...
there is no people living in perth city! there is 9000, yep, nine thousand people living in city...
i am postulating for years that we should actually populate city centre with say, 3 to 4 story appartments, leave ground floor for trade and business - allow people to live in city...
rome, warsaw, frankfurt, prag, moscow, berlin, cairo - do not have sunday trading, do not have "all night" trading - yet, these cities are alive! trading do not make city alive, people do! |
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By: jaykaye_09
6/02/2008
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'rome, warsaw, frankfurt, prag, moscow, berlin, cairo - do not have sunday trading, do not have "all night" trading - yet, these cities are alive! trading do not make city alive, people do!'
-bulldoost
Said it before, and I'll say it again - when we become like Paris, Rome, Berlin etc. then I'll cease to question the thought that "governs" this city. |
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By: ausgal951753
6/02/2008
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The thing about being afraid of change is that you spoil it for others who want it.
DLS does not harm anyone who does not want it but the fright of change means they want to take the joy away from people who do.
7 day trading, again makes no difference to the people who still insist on going shopping on a saturday morning or thursday night, but again they want to stop the change and take the benefits away from those who wish to shop a their leisure.
The liquor laws that prevented a person having a realxing drink without a meal at a cafe is typical of the ancient laws by which we are goverend.
All changes are not bad, the locals in perth need to listen to the people from other states, who have grew up with modern thinking and benefits. |
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By: magnus.tide
6/02/2008
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Ausgal, If U dont like perth LEAVE, we want to maintain our lifestyle.
Why someone would want a community to move closer to destruction is beyond me. |
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By: ausgal951753
6/02/2008
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Why give up let us change Perth for the better, there are enough new blood non West Australians here now to mix with the open minded West Australians to bring Perth out of the past.
We can beat the closed minds of the old fashiond WA people. |
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By: magnus.tide
6/02/2008
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Why then do more ppl come to the west than leave then?
They've shat in their own nest I suppose. |
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By: magnus.tide
6/02/2008
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| The grass aint greener on the other side. |
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By: bnb6154
6/02/2008
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Ah but magnus - it must be.
We are forever reading in these topics how backward WA is compared to everything and anything. Its just a shame some cant be content with their life as it is and have a need for everyone to embrace their idea of what the perfect life is/has. |
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By: magnus.tide
6/02/2008
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Life is about the journey, not the destination.
Me for one are happy to live in country WA, with a city only an hour away. |
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By: magnus.tide
6/02/2008
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If these whingers dont have enough excitement in their life, its a reflection on their own insecurities, a new city wont change that.
To them I suggest;
Go parachuting, Sailboarding, Skiing, Ballooning, whatever! get off your fat @ss's and get out there and enjoy what this state has to offer. |
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By: magnus.tide
6/02/2008
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| The only things that really sux about WA is Daylight saving and our Corrupt Police. |
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By: jaykaye_09
6/02/2008
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'Why then do more ppl come to the west than leave then?'
-magnus.tide
Read; why do more people lacking qualifications come to the West - because you don't need a job to become 'rich' (relatively speaking) here.
Perhaps we should be asking why those with qualifications are leaving in droves? |
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By: jaykaye_09
6/02/2008
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'Life is about the journey, not the destination.
Me for one are happy to live in country WA, with a city only an hour away.'
-magnus.tide
Right, so if we develop the city and turn into a cultural, dining and shopping precinct, extend trading hours, allow more small bars/pubs/cafes to open in surrounding areas etc. etc. how is that going to change your lifestyle? Especially when you live an hour out. |
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By: trevorsteamboat
6/02/2008
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"We can beat the closed minds of the old fashiond WA people."
If you think it was "old fashioned WA people" that voted no at the trading hours referendum ausgal your kidding yourself. Do you have any idea what percentage of people hold retail jobs? (well honestly, neither do i but its got to be alot) And alot of these people got to vote. And how many of them do you think would have been going "ya for me if "yes" wins ill get to work on Sundays. Because I love working Sundays because its so much fun". I work Sundays now. If i got to vote to not work on Sundays what do you think id be doing? And thats old fashiooned thinking?
Alot of other people, such as myself, would have voted no only because want to be able to shop somewhere in the future other than Coles and Woolworths. Is that old fashioned thinking? Hell no, thats light years ahead of where your heads at right now.
Its the State Government and local councils that hold this state back from doing great things ausgal. Not the people. |
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By: ausgal951753
6/02/2008
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We hve worked hard for years to get DLS for WA, now both the liberals and the labour party support it, we should be guaranteed it is voted in permanently in 2009, however we must not be complacent as there are still many inbred west australians still left that fear change, we must show these people that there is nothing to fear from changes that will make Perth a better more livable place.
Today DLS tomorrow 7 day trading and lets then bring in continental liquor laws which will bring WA in line with Europe. |
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