By: ausgal951753
31/07/2007
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This is exactly the mindset, that keeps Perth in the dark ages. Unless we are honest about who we are, we will never be able to move forward. Perth could be a vibrant city, that has people flocking to it as tourist, while keeping our kids here. We are opposed to ANYTHING progressive, we are not interested in how people view us, we are self serving and selfish. We accept second rate service as the norm, while we allow are selves to be ripped off by every tradesman, while paying ridiculous amounts for every service and product!
We are either conditioned to think that this is our lot in life and there is nothing we can do about it, or we are just lazy, selfish and not caring about our state and all it's people!
Could not Agree more Force
It is the lazyness of people that stops Perth moving forward as well as poor politicians who look for votes before looking at the future of WA.
We should welcome changes, Riverside facilities, 7 day trading, more marina's on the coast, resort facilities on Rottnest, better roads, better public transport.
It has to happen, but we need to get the diehard locals to change their views on change,
They should embrace good positive changes and not be frightend like they are now, |
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By: forcegolf
31/07/2007
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If one wants a real picture of how backwards we are and how we think, just raise the issue of daylight savings.
The average West Aussie, would say that they believe in a fair go, yet they are opposed to 7 day trading while the bigger co's can open up at random. |
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By: ozblokewa
31/07/2007
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Could not Agree more Force
It is the lazyness of people that stops Perth moving forward as well as poor politicians who look for votes before looking at the future of WA.
We should welcome changes, Riverside facilities, 7 day trading, more marina's on the coast, resort facilities on Rottnest, better roads, better public transport.
It has to happen, but we need to get the diehard locals to change their views on change,
They should embrace good positive changes and not be frightend like they are now,
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I've lived here in dullsville for 30yrs and I agree we are in desperate need of change but I disagree that is because we are frightened I blame the governments of the last 20yrs for not wanting change,they're too tight with money.
Mind you the eastern states get plenty of the revenue raised over here in WA,and they just choose to spend it on their infastructure,where as WA doesn't. |
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By: ozblokewa
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| A few comments back it was said that WA doesn't attract tourists and migrants,well for the past three weeks I have had the pleasure of taking my english relatives on my mothers side from Shark Bay to Albany and they found WA to be the best state that they had visited compared to the other states.The main reason for their holiday other than to see family was to check out Australia so they could see where the best place is to migrate to and WA came up trumps,there reasoning was all the other states are over populated just like England and too stressfull unlike WA which they found to be just the right mix,living here would be like a never ending holiday.Speaks for itself really. |
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By: forcegolf
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| Not sure that I saw migrants mentioned as that is just not the case. It was me however that mentioned tourists, it is not a hot spot to visit and that is a fact, the reason, Perth has nothing to offer, it is boring! |
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By: forcegolf
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By: ozblokewa
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I've lived here in dullsville for 30yrs and I agree we are in desperate need of change but I disagree that is because we are frightened I blame the governments of the last 20yrs for not wanting change,they're too tight with money.
Mind you the eastern states get plenty of the revenue raised over here in WA,and they just choose to spend it on their infastructure,where as WA doesn't.
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This is not a valid statement, when it is the voters who put these people into office in the first place.
One cannot blame the Government, when one has the power to vote them out of office. How long have the Labs been in office? Who was it that put the ultra left winger Geoff Gallop(another elite left Rhodes Scholar)into office?
People cannot complain about the government, when they asked thoose same people to represent them! |
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By: ozblokewa
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| Obviously Force you're only talking about Perth and surrounding suburbs,as for the rest of the state boring would be completely wrong,more like highly adventureous.Just check out the huge amount of Tourist companies that run highly successfull business'and struggle to keep up with demand.. |
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By: ozblokewa
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This is not a valid statement, when it is the voters who put these people into office in the first place.
One cannot blame the Government, when one has the power to vote them out of office. How long have the Labs been in office? Who was it that put the ultra left winger Geoff Gallop(another elite left Rhodes Scholar)into office?
People cannot complain about the government, when they asked thoose same people to represent them!
Regardless of which political party has been in power none of them has been any good with regards to improving Perths infrastructure,its a big state lots of places to look after and plenty of voters too,most of them want regional WA to be given preference rather than the city and thats what is happening at the moment. |
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By: ozchickwa
2/08/2007
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Did you all miss my post? Force? Ausgal? You were quite quick to have a go at me and demand reasons why Perth is not so dull and I did, has the cat got your tounge? Just in case you missed it here it is again.
I just don't think Perth is that dull. There are plenty of things to do in and around Perth. We have theaters/cinimas/a casino/resturaunts/cafes/ waterfun parks/zoos/libraries/muse ums-natural and art/parks and picnic spots. We have many watersport venues on the river and on the beach. You can hire boats/canoes/skis/jetskis , or you can just swim. There are clubs for every kind of sport, indoors and outdoors as well as hobby clubs for just about every hobby you can think of. There are ice skating rinks and skate parks, go-cart race tracks-indoors and outdoors, paintball centers for those who like to play shooting games as well as archery centers.
I could go on almost forever about what there is to do in and around Perth. It is anything but dull. Life is what you make it, where ever you are.
And as for international acts coming to Perth, I saw Robbi Williams and the Black Eyed Peas last year and this year we have had Kylie Minogue(though some would argue she is local) Gwen Stafani, Christina Aguilera, Guns 'n' Roses. I could get a full detailed list if you need it. But I think I have made my point along with Ozbloke, after all you have gone so quiet. Ha! |
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By: waterbank
2/08/2007
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| You tell them ozchick, although I fear you will be wasting your time on Forcegolf. He should really have named himself "critically judgmental in black and white"....... |
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By: ozchickwa
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| I know I am wasting my time. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. There ae people here on the boards who make comments just for the sake of having an argument. The two mentioned in my previous post are prime examples of that. Quick to shoot peopel down but have no real basis to their point. |
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By: waterbank
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| Spot on ozchick..... |
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By: forcegolf
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By: ozchickwa
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I know I am wasting my time. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. There ae people here on the boards who make comments just for the sake of having an argument. The two mentioned in my previous post are prime examples of that. Quick to shoot peopel down but have no real basis to their point.
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The only reason I did not reply was that there was little left to say. The many points I made, were not responded to by you, so I figured that you either agreed with me or had left town. |
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By: ozchickwa
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| That's what you claim. |
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By: forcegolf
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| So you have problems reading along with your other difficulties! All you have to do is read all of the posts to get a very clear picture of what everybody thinks. |
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By: ozchickwa
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This is exactly the mindset, that keeps Perth in the dark ages. Unless we are honest about who we are, we will never be able to move forward. Perth could be a vibrant city, that has people flocking to it as tourist, while keeping our kids here. We are opposed to ANYTHING progressive, we are not interested in how people view us, we are self serving and selfish. We accept second rate service as the norm, while we allow are selves to be ripped off by every tradesman, while paying ridiculous amounts for every service and product!
We are either conditioned to think that this is our lot in life and there is nothing we can do about it, or we are just lazy, selfish and not caring about our state and all it's people!
Forcegolf talking about himself again.
I don't accept second rate service, haven't experienced it here. Perth is a vibrant city that has tourist flocking to it, I know because I have a friend in the industry and they are under pressure to keep up with the demand. He runs adventure tours. Here is the link;http://www.activesaf aris.com.au/
As for progression, what was the Bell Tower? Why are they putting the train line in to Mandurah? That's called progress. Isn't there a proposal for a facelift of the Perth foreshore? I think that's a great idea. That again is progress.
As for the price of things, most retailers blame the extra cost in friehgt that needs to be added to the cost of items. But from my experience of shopping in Melbourne compared to Perth, no difference in price.
So do you have an inteligent reply or just more flippant remarks and broad statements? |
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By: ozchickwa
2/08/2007
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| And now I'm enjoying the sound of silence........ |
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By: forcegolf
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| You statements that strongly suggest that you would not have any idea what good service and or food is. If that is the case, why in the blue moon should I respond and argue? Perth is dull and boring, take the time to ask why is it we do not attract tourists. If you were willing to be objective, you would have found that Australia does not rate in the top 25 tourist destinations yet 4 of our closest neighbors do, As for Australian tourisim, WA is not even a blip on the radar! |
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By: ozchickwa
2/08/2007
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| Did you even read my post? |
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By: ausgal951753
2/08/2007
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One question I always have about WA, is that why is every step forward objected to by the same vocal minority groups.
It does not matter if it is a new railway line, a resort at exmouth, a new swan river foreshore development.
it is always the same vegan greenies who loudly object, marching the streets in their dirty old clothes covering their dirty unwashed bodies, yet the WA LaboUr goverment listens to these low life nobodys. |
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By: forcegolf
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| of course that is the foundation for my reply |
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By: jaykaye_09
2/08/2007
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ozchickwa,
You can't seriously call those projects currently underway, and those proposed, actual progress.
The foreshore redevelopment has been largely ignored by this state for some time now. Like the Bell Tower, the proposals put forward by the state seem little more than, dare I say, a token gesture to appease those demanding change. The Bell Tower is a laughing stock, not only amongst those abroad, but from the heart and soul of Perth - our people. Keep in mind, there was a far better proposal already put forth by the previous state government, before this one ‘rejected’ it. Some 7 years later, how much has been achieved?
The Perth to Mandurah rail line is, in my opinion, a fantastic idea. Those who travel the route for work will be saved any number of troubles, while those who enjoy Mandurah for their own reasons will no doubt be served greatly. I will say however; regarding those issues I raise in my prior post, does this rail line go any way toward addressing them? It seems only a small piece in an otherwise scattered puzzle.
Of course, until the foreshore redevelopment and other such ideas are finalised, I will reserve my judgment in its entirety, however, this city has on many occasions acted in ways which fuel my cynicism.
I'm surprised you have called Perth a vibrant city. I don't doubt that, for a tourist, there is much to do both in the way of 'adventure' tourism outside of Perth while the natural beauty in which this state is enriched provide a welcome escapee for many both here and elsewhere. Perth City however, is anything but vibrant as is illustrated by a Saturday afternoon stroll through our city. It lacks the soul, energy and life that makes any capital city a joy to be a part of.
You are right about price where freight is the principal factor in higher prices. My issue is lack of variety in items ranging from clothes, to CD’s, to electronics. |
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'it is always the same vegan greenies who loudly object, marching the streets in their dirty old clothes covering their dirty unwashed bodies, yet the WA LaboUr goverment listens to these low life nobodys'
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I suggest you take a look at the demographics of those currently portesting a number of proposals within the city. It is anything but 'vegan greenies'. |
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| *protesting |
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By: ozchickwa
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As for the price of things, most retailers blame the extra cost in friehgt that needs to be added to the cost of items. But from my experience of shopping in Melbourne compared to Perth, no difference in price.
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Go to Victoria markets, you will find better meat for half of the price you find it here. As for the freight issue, that is not an open and shut case. Many items now come here drop shipped from the point of manufacturer, which means that on many occasions they pay less for shipping than those on the East. Retail in Perth is the biggest rip off in the Southern Hemisphere, it is also the worst as far as selection and is a major reason for us not attracting tourists. |
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