By: kiwigal53
6/11/2008
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| kirst fish, look up the hospitality trade for the mining industry, like ESS Sodex etc all do the cleaning ,kitchen hands etc for the mining industry. Go to google search engine and just put in hospitality to the mining industry. |
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| I didn't read all of this diatribe, but what has this to do with getting work in the mines.????????? |
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Whoops, sorry, new to these forums.
I was replying to this link on page 2 of this thread in saying in this link
http://au.messages.yahoo.com/news/localnews-wa/172 22/
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By: bugaup2true
14/11/2008
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I should have saved up the whole post after reading all this thread. The sort of stuff below is not what this thread is about. It should be a bunch of people trying to help each other not slinging mud. Kiwigal sounds like she knows what she's talking about but come, don't besmirch your helpful nature in mud slinging.
All you out there looking for the big bucks mine jobs get ready for a jolt. PART-1
The only way you get one is if you know someone.
I searched for ages (over a year). I gathering little bits of info and used what I got by perseverance and research.
I eventually got a fill-in short term position by applying directly to a contracting company (a small one).
Apart from knowing someone, you won't get anywhere applying through agencies unless you are some highly qualified engineer or consultant. The agency recruiters know very little about the equipment you are applying for and sometimes delete quality applications. It's very difficult to get past these people mostly females in their early 20's who don't know anything about the fine detail of equipment operation and, pass on the wrong applications and resumes to the potential employers.
Find someone you know, or look for positions where you can apply directly to the employer.
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e:Mining jobs for women Reply to this message nathanzachary obviously you don't know to many dump truck drivers as most of them being employed now are woman as they make better drivers on the bigger machines as they don't drive them like fricken cowboys like the stupid men do so there are less accidents with woman at the wheel.
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Re:Mining jobs for women Reply to this message Hi there, i am interested in a job in office admin in the minning industry, but in north qld. im finding it hard to find avalible positions. any ideas as to wher ... |
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By: bugaup2true
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PART-2 due to limit of 2000 words.
What you need in QLD without exception. Don't asl of anything else because there isn't any and this stuff is hard and fast and without variation. Only differences you will find is whether you are after an underground or surface position.
First thing: (1) A Generic Induction card/certificate,cost about $360 through ABSC Training. Many do it.
(1A) I got a Metalliferous induction at the time of the generic. Worked out cheaper and allows you to work at mines other than just coal. Remember to always try to widen your scope with extra qualifications.
(2) Tow widen my scope, I got what's called and SGS/BMA induction passport induction. SGS is the only company that is allowed to do this training. BMA stands for BHP Mitsubishi Alliance. They own stacks of mine sites more than most of the mining companies. They are stricter than strict on safety.
Before you do this one, they will require you to have in your possession a Coal Board Medical. If you aren't fit, you won't get one. Fairly easy but if you are a danger to yourself and others due to some inadequacy, you won't pass it.
Consider working a dump truck and a tyre fire starts. You have to be able to climb down (sometimes without the use of the foldaway ladder and get the hell away from the machine and still raise the alarm and keep people away till fire services get there. If you have some physical problem that would prevent you doing something like this, you won't pass the test.
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14/11/2008
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PART-3 or is it 4, i've lost count.
In WA you need MARCSTAR (or some other mumbo jumbo) but that's all I know. Don't want to work there. The FIFO positions are FIFO from Perth only not cities on the east side of Australia.
Back to QLD, I would suggest you also get and keep up to date a Police Check certificate. On your resume state you will make no claims on a potential employer for reimbursement of induction costs.
It would be good if you could get the Coal Board medical endorsed for what's called section-4. This is only acquired from an employer so we're back to looking for work. Most contractors like you to have mine site experience. I got sick of looking for another operator or driver job, so targeted camp cleaners or attendants.
I gathered all sorts of bits of info in researching work and used just about every search engine imaginable for Google and job sites. You have to be on alert for minute hints or links. I skimmed off the back half part of e-mail addresses and added www to look at hundreds of websites.
Got links and websites from paper/magazine articles. Look at major companies' subsidiary companies and research who major mining companies' site contractors were for various mine sites.
It goes on and on. I was like a war time spy the way I gathered every bit of info and bookmark.
I have a total of about 600 bookmarks filed away in my browser in a way I can get any of them when I need them.
You will only get a job by sheer hard work and personal sacrifice and research. There's no easy way in, so stop asking people on the various sites for the easy way. I won't
give up info to someone that's doing the same thing I'm doing and take job away from me. Neither will anyone else. I don't mind giving hints like these. End of part-3 |
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By: kiwigal53
14/11/2008
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| bugaup2true, well written mate. It is a hard thing getting into the mining industry. I have just completed my marcasta on wed, and done my pre employment medical today off my own back. So i have them done now, have done the WA national police clearance and my senior first aid, have a MR licence but don't think i want to drive the trucks now. Rather do cleaning and have got my name down with compass and been to their information day. I did 6 months research on my own, and found lots of people asking questions on here and they don't even think of looking up mining jobs available and you are right as i give away information i have searched for , and they probably end up with the jobs with my hard work. never mind. i am looking for accommodation at the moment and that is the hardest thing i am finding to get in with other mining fly in fly out people of a mature age group to rent with. never mind. |
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By: bugaup2true
14/11/2008
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Other thing that peeves me (polite word for slightly p*sses me off) all the overseas people looking for mine work here so they can come to Australia and take mine jobs from Australians on the same quest for the same mine jobs. MY wife's am immigrant so don't label me a bigot or hater of people that want to come to Australia and work. Just stand in line behind Australians who are looking for a long term occupation to support their families and, not be someone that will throw it in after a year or half a year and return to their home country. If you want work and are self funded on an extended holiday and want extra funds, get a job on THE HARVEST TRAIL and do fruit or small crop picking and leave the jobs in Australia for Australians that make the sacrifices to research and obtain them.
Can't think of what else I wanted to say because it's Friday and I (as many others have) probably had a drink or two. Will add to this as required or as more comes to mind.
Willing to help so PM me if you want help but know I have priorities in the circumstances of those seeking work. |
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By: kiwigal53
15/11/2008
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| bigaup2true, thanks for the input mate. I am a kiwi and i have moved to perth permanently, so whether i get a job in the mines or just an office job in the normal everyday work, i will be staying till the day i die. Kiwis are welcome by the mining industry as they work hard, don't winge about the job and get on with it. Whether they are here for a short time or a long time, they have their goal set and that is to make money. 70% of the mining industry is made up of kiwis, so that has to say something. we wouldn't get the jobs if the aussies were lining up and eager to work ,would we. i rest my case. work is for anyone who is willing to sacrfice normal living to work in a mining industry job ,miles away from family ,in the remote and can hack the job. As one aussie gal said to me, if the aussie people went for those jobs , they wouldn't need to import others to do it. lol but hey everyone is entitled to their opinion of things, you have yours and i have mine. |
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By: bugaup2true
15/11/2008
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"Kiwis are welcome by the mining industry as they work hard, don't whinge about the job and get on with it"
Now, as I said in my first post I don't want to get involved in racial mudslinging so I'll make this as short as possible. Youâre doing just that saying what's above suggesting Aussies wonât get in and have a go without whinging and that only kiwis get on with the job without whinging.
After doing two short term mine-site construction jobs (6 months & 8 months)and rarely encountering a Kiwi, I didn't hear to many whingers amongst the predominantly Australian crews, except when there was a safety problem or issue. If Kiwis donât whinge about safety, may explain why so many of them are on compo. Keep this racial (my countrymen are better than yours) crap out of these forums.
I met a recruiter as a matter of fact and he said, he'd rather hire Australians because he was positive the money was staying in the country and it was only right that they had first option on a position unless they were some overseas specialist.
As for 70% of the mines are made up of Kiwis? You suggest that you havenât got a job in a mine yet so where do you get such info with unbacked, fact less, info expressed with such poetic licence (bull dust what Iâm trying to say?? How do you know this because it is utter bull dust?
BTW, the username is b-u-gaup, not b-i-gaup, maybe that's your Nw Zlnd accent.
Google the word BUGAUP and see what you come up with.
âI rest my caseâ. Huh?? On what factual grounds do you rest what case on??? You sound pretty confident for someone thatâs yet to work on a mine site. Rest your case, give me a break? If you were defending me for murder Iâd do everything I could to escape or get another attorney.
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15/11/2008
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THEY MUCKED UP THAT POST.
Here's the rest of it uninterrupted:
Get out there, get a job, cherish it, keep your mouth shut and political expression to yourself, keep the money in the country and remember that anyone in a mine job isnt doing it for pleasure. Its only for the money so they are all a little edgy to get the job done and get out of there. You start up with this racial crap and you wont even see or feel it coming. If you go to a mine site spruiking what you are here, youll go home on 1st rotation out, unrecognizable to the family with a severely re arranged jaw and facial features and may not be invited back. The corporate mine operators/owners take extremely dim views of people like you that go into sites and create racial stand offs that cause factions, drops in moral and team/crew divisions that result in production losses.
They have state and federal laws on their corporate sides (EEO, racial discrimination, workplace bullying & harassment), and if they get a whiff of you spruiking this stuff, theyll walk you off that site and blacklist you on every mine site in the country, and so they should!!!
Believe me, the team/crew members will stand up to be counted and back the operators every time on these issues.
God, I came on here to add more to my free info pack and that racial crap has put me off. My newly kegged home brew is calling me. May post more later.
What I'm trying to do in here (at my expense) is give those that are floundering around in here the necessary info to get 'em started before you jump into the cauldron of boiling information true and false. You have to be able to have an educated guess which is true and which is false.
I wondered last night if I typed up a word document about all this, burned it to CD or DVD and sold it on the internet for a paltry sum to cover the cost of the disc and postage to anywhere in Australia, about $7 to $9 dollars. How many do you think I'd sell. |
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By: kiwigal53
15/11/2008
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| sorry mate i was not intending to be racial about anything.It was what an australian gal said not i, she said that if the kiwis were getting the jobs its because they didn't moan about it. It is true its only for the money, why else would you want to work in dirt and heat , except for the money. As for me not having a job in there yet, its probably because i haven't actually applied for any as of yet. Just been doing all the necessary paper work so i am ready. like the marcasta course i did last week, and the pre employement medical i did last week too. I may just do a job in an office in the city, not pushing just for the mining industry as my only job options. As i am interested in geology and know alot about that, and have my truck licence, so can go anywhere if that is what i want to do. As for someone smashing my face in , well bring it on, i have tackled many guys head on and won, so that doesn't exactly scare the living shift out of me. you need a few balls to work in jobs mostly by men anyway, otherwise you would never survive. but thanks for the information, great reading. i wouldn't advise selling a book on the net, there are to many of those out there already, and poor suckers buy them thinking it may help you into a job, when really it doesn't. |
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As for 70% of the mines are made up of Kiwis
i doubt it. |
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Yeas, I'd like to know where, whoever said it, got that impression. To be honest (as I think deeply), I can't count on one hand the number of kiwis I met, encountered or even heard on the mine radios I used at the sites and they included: FIRST SITE, 2 open cut radios operating on 6 of a possible 200 channels each and 3 UHF operations radios using about 4 or 5 channels of possible 40 channels on each, SECOND SITE; 1 OPEN CUT RADIO using 4 of a possible 150 channels and 1 UHF radio using 4 of a possible 40 channels.
Never heard a kiwi accent ever.
Met a loader operator at German Creek who was Maori but he would proudly thump his chest and declare he was Australian not kiwi. |
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To add to that, and then I think I'll stay away from this thread for a while before adding more advice, I offer the following. Might go into two posts.
This will be two posts to get the message across:
Youve taken it all out of context and meaning. I think Ill take my stuff to another forum. I just came in here to offer advice and I get tied up in all this negativity.
SAID:
sorry mate i was not intending to be racial about anything. It was what an australian gal said not i, she said that if the kiwis were getting the jobs its because they didn't moan about it.
ANSWER:
Thats it, shelve the blame when facing angry fire. Probably some bull dyke with an axe to grind against Australian men.
SAID: It is true its only for the money, why else would you want to work in dirt and heat ,
ANSWER: I dont know what dirt and heat you think youre going to work in. Buildings are air conned as are the vehicles. OH&S requirements prevent such occurrences on a regular and concentrated basis. Boy have you got a distorted view of mine work.
SAID:
As for me not having a job in there yet, its probably because i havent actually applied for any as of yet.
ANSWER:
You seem fairly mouthy for someone that hasnt even applied. When I first came in here, you sounded like you knew what you were talking about, guess I was wrong.
SAID: Just been doing all the necessary paper work so i am ready. like the marcasta course i did last week, and the pre employement medical i did last week too. I may just do a job in an office in the city, not pushing just for the mining industry as my only job options. As i am interested in geology and know alot about that, and have my truck licence, so can go anywhere if that is what i want to do.
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Hope you got an HR license. Thats about the lowest theyll tolerate. HC at least is the usual stepping off point and, they usually want someone with some hands on driving experience.
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16/11/2008
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PART TWO
SAID:
As for someone smashing my face in , well bring it on, i have tackled many guys head on and won, so that doesn't exactly scare the living shift out of me.
ANSWER:
What I was trying to get across to you, is the crews all work together and they take a dim view of people spruiking racial and other stuff. Somehow eventually (and its usually pretty quick) it gets back to management and youâre off that site and any other site permanently.
Some of the crews have used car park counselling after work back at the camp. Not a lot of this goes on now as they have more subtle ways to eliminate people and situations like this.
You would look pretty vulnerable taking on a crew of about 20 people no matter how tough and dykey you think you are. Just go in there and do your job, focus on rotation out and thatâs that.
SAID: you need a few balls to work in jobs mostly by men anyway, otherwise you would never survive.
ANSWER: Here it comes, the âI can do anything better than a man can do it, and I donât care what he or the rest of the men think or want.â Give me a break. They have strict EEO in the mines so you dont have to go in with that attitude. BTW, I aint a woman, Im a man and I support women in the workplace no matter what the format is. I used to be an advocate for women that appealed against the way they were treated in industrial situations.
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16/11/2008
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SAID:? I wouldnt advise selling a book on the net, there are too many of those out there already, and poor suckers buy them thinking it may help you into a job, when really it doesn't.
ANSWER: And another point you missed. From what experiences in life can you offer anyone advice about selling a book on the net? What year in school did you get to?? I never mentioned a bloody book. I could get this into about 5 pages and I was suggesting out of the goodness of my heart, I just recoup my losses and expenses in the price of about $8 or $9. I was suggesting I just compile what Ive posted in this forum (a lot more added of course) in a clearer format and give blow by blow renditions of whats needed and what I discovered after researching and getting work, adding all my bookmarks and links and leads and putting it in a simple word document without all the expensively produced graphics, photos and HTML docs and making it simple to open, read and access. Then selling it to the poor schmucks that get ripped off paying big bucks for the same stuff that others put in an expensive format and sell for between $50 to $250 with no guarantees. You know, like be kind to people without giving them false hopes,not rip people off and give them useless crap that they cant access. But you missed it completely.Maybe I should have spelt it out in Leggo.
Said from the start, I didnt want to get involved in this sort of crap. Why did I come into this forum to offer my assistance?? I wonder........
Well folks, Ill leave you alone to thrash it out and Ill take my advice to another forum where this wont happen and I can type more than 2000 lousy letters without censoring of apostrophes.
Dont listen to kiwigal53, she knows nothing of what she speaks.
I refuse to have a battle of wits with someone I feel is totally unarmed.
My apologies for dominating the thread. Back to you all.........
I might come back with all the info p
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By: kiwigal53
16/11/2008
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| good riddens to you and as for your information pack, there are a lot cheaper versions out there that do the same as what you are thinking of doing and that is links to sites, phone numbers of the big mines sites, what you need to have to get into one, training places to contact, and lots of useful information and an email address where any questions would be answered free. A guy who has worked in the mines for several years and has provided the knowledge that he didn't have when he first thought about mining jobs. As for being a dyke i am far from that, and not interested in that way of life, but can stand up for myself if i need to. As for not knowing nothing, i know a hell of a lot of stuff about the mining industry, so get off your little horse and put your feet back on the ground mate, typical male can't take a woman with an opinion. |
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18/11/2008
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I understand that if you catch the train to Karlgoolie, simply hop off and walk round the corner to the office.
For more information go to getajobinthemines.co.nz.
This is written by a young fella Ross and he is a Kiwi.
If you pay $30.00 he gives you all the how tos and what fors.
You can email him, he sends you a lovely little booklet and it is very good reading.
Give it a go. |
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18/11/2008
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| daniel.t yes i have that lovely wee book and it is better than anything else you can buy on the net. very informative and tells you all you need to know. as for catching the train to kalgoolie not sure about that now as we are in a recession and they are actually letting people go in the mining sector and other sectors so not a good time if you are thinking of crossing the ditch for a job. Better to stay put unless of course you are an engineer or geologist or something they require quite a few off. |
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18/11/2008
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| Yeah better off everyone stay in their own country. |
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| Women should only take mining jobs if the chain that reaches from the kitchen to the bedroom can be extended sufficiently within the family budget to make it worthwhile. |
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19/11/2008
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kiwigal53 said: ---as for your information pack, there are a lot cheaper versions out there----
Show me one that sells cheaper than $9.00 with everything you mention.??
You ought to take more of your medication. You half read things then get half the story and react accordingly with wits at half speed. I was saying what ever I charged if I did indeed decide to do it would be to recoup the cost of the cd/dvd and postage and nothing else. But, you responded without taking in what I wrote. I think you just like to dominate and love an argument. Nice side handed crack about men. You can't handle someone that's male offering you advice or criticism. Try and complete your education before working in any mine.That's a good girl/whatever and see the doctor about a stronger dose. |
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19/11/2008
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BTW kiwigal/whatever, the word is riddance, not riddens. You meant to say, Good riddance, not good riddens.
What a perfect example of sanctioning retrospective cot death syndrome.
I agree with barbarian9999. And it should be heavy chain to restrict movement and distance traveled. |
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19/11/2008
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| well both you and barbaian have just shown me the true aussie male, no wonder the woman don't want you with an attitude from way back in the stone age, whats wrong with men being chained to the kitchen sink as they aren't any fricken use anywhere else in the house. lol |
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