By: pinotnow
6/06/2007
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THe government is doing a feasibility study into a desalination plant for Melbourne, most likely being situated at Westernport Bay and feeding the Casey reservoir.
PErth has a plant which uses enough electricity to power over 30,000 homes and only provides 17% of their water supply.
Should Melbourne get a plant or do we have better options for water? |
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By: julie_maree
6/06/2007
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| Yes, they do. Just think of ten years ago there was talk on our water storage and how it's starting to run low. I can even vaguely remember thirty years ago, still at school, the governments even talked about the water level and the little rain. Why didnt they start to do something then. Why do us people have to wait until it's virtually too late |
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By: tarkarri
6/06/2007
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Recycling water is a better option than desalination.
Desalination plants should not be placed in harbours or bays as they increase the salinity of the surrounding water, having huge environmental impacts!
Much of our treated water is released into the areas where desalination would be likely to be placed, so doesn't it make more sense to just treat the already treated water to make it fit for human consuption rather than mix it with salt water then suck it back in to desalinate? |
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By: pinotnow
6/06/2007
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They only have two options: Port Phillip Bay, apparently not deep enough to cope with the extra salinity, which won't go ahead anyway because real estate prices along the Mornington Peninsula would make it unfeasible plus the fear of having a great big ugly plant sitting there bringing the prices down again.
Western Port Bay is the other option, which is deep enough, but the water circles around French Island too long before going out to sea. It will affect salinity levels enough to keep the fish away and there go the tourism dollars generated by the hobby fishermen frequenting Phillip Island.
Which brings me to the question: Why is it called Phillip Island when it's in the Westernport Bay, not Port Phillip Bay? |
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By: tlkr11
16/06/2007
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| Melbourne desperately needs a desalination plant. |
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By: pinotnow
20/06/2007
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| looks like Melbourne is getting one now, near Wonthaggi, not that the Wonthaggi residents knew anything about it! |
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22/06/2007
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By: polynesiachick
22/06/2007
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Hi as I live down the road by 40mins from the proposed Wonthaggi plant I must admitt I was surprised that the Government could actually up and do this with out consulting the council there but a previous post has cleared that up for me.
Really it comes down to whether we want water or we don't. No point whinging about where will I ride my horse now, no water will mean no horse so problem solved. I will say that not many of the locals are too pleased to be losing yet more of our local water to Melbourne for gardens and industry when we have farmers here who are on tight water regulations as it is, the power stations use a certain percent to top up their man made water dams [made for the specific purpose of catching water for the cooling towers instead of leaching it from pre-existing water supplies, the top ups are not very high either]so I guess I'll be for the desalination plant as long as it's been researched througoughly to prevent excessive salination of the area as far as is resonably practicable. |
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By: end2desal
25/06/2007
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| Melbourne may well need more water but not at the expense of the Bass Coast environment, tourism, and real estate values. Down here in Bass Coast shire, an up-and-coming eco-tourism area, we, like many other shires in Victoria, have been on Stage 4 water restrictions for many months now. Perhaps if Melbourne had gone on Stage 4 along with everyones else, they would not now be in this predicament. Considering the lack of consultation with the local community down here, we can't help wondering if this plan for a desalination plant is not in some way connected to a future Nuclear Power Plant in the same area....Supplying everyone in Melbourne with their own water tank for use on their precious gardens would be a cheaper, less destructive alternative for all of us. |
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By: nevilleford
14/07/2007
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My name is Neville Ford Dip E.E.
I have sent a email to mikeneighbour2@Bigpond.co m.au re proposed report, I electrical power engineer, suggested that a combination of wyself and expert on water be appointed, needs support and money from MAV (municipal ass,n Victoria)needs local well connected to political local commitee.
Neville Ford.
1B Fanny st Mooney Ponds.3039
ph (03) 9 326 0961.
nevilleford@Yahoo.com.au |
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By: wee_little_dee
15/07/2007
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| Up!!!!!! |
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By: meonrhw
17/07/2007
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| you have to join the fashon even darwin wants one? |
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By: dlcre2
24/07/2007
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| Selfishness? In my opinion, like most people who have survived on tank water for the past 10 years (yes, even throughout one of our driest summers!), or who have been on stage 4 water restrictions for months on-end (i.e. non-Melbournians), feel that it is in fact most Melbournians who are the selfish ones! The fact that most are in support of the desalination plant proves to everyone, who knows the truth behind its detrimental effects on the environment, their true arrogance and lack of appreciation for water itself. Numerous species of unique marine flora and fauna will be sacrificed just so Melbournians can continue to hose down their driveways, while tonnes of carbon dioxide will be released into the atmosphere daily to power the plant just so Melbournians do not have to bother themselves to turn the tap off while brushing their teeth. So, who are the selfish people in this case? Those who have been forced to conserve water (perhaps the lady with the horse?), or those who are happy to jeopardise our environment for the sake of being able to continue to over-consume our most precious resource? |
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By: meonrhw
25/07/2007
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while tonnes of carbon dioxide will be released into the atmosphere daily to power the plant
you won't have to worrie about this as they will run it from the nuclear powerplant they will build next to it.
Why do you think they want all that extra good quality water. |
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By: gdw210au
10/08/2007
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| YES W.A HAS A PLANT AND THAT AT THE MOMENT IS WHAT IS KEEPING US OUT OF REAL WATER RESTRICKENS .SACRIFICE POWER USEAGE FOR SURVIVAL |
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By: gdw210au
10/08/2007
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Dont you have large enough dams ?
Cant the gov capture enough water from the mountains
There is a problem if with your weather the way it is ( 4 seasons in 1 day ) that you dont have enough water in your dams |
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By: meonrhw
14/08/2007
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| Ah but don't you see water is the ultimate consumer industry.Like diamonds make it scarcer it gets more expensive but unlike diamonds you can not select wether or not to have it. |
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By: bonovoxvocals
18/08/2007
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We do NOT need a desalinisation plant,what we need is some visionary thinking on the water shortage.
I worked on a pipeline that connected some of South Eastern Victorias water supplies together,some of these Dams are no longer on the grid!The Government should reconnect them.
ALL Victorian schools should use tank water for toilets.
ALL Victorian homes should have tank water.Let the Victorian Government use the FAT surplus to fund THAT!
Once again the Victorian public are being made to pay for the lack of planning and forward thinking of the Government,No increase in Victorias water storage capacity but housing development has increased dramatically putting a huge strain on water storage levels.
The response of "but we have been in a bad drought" is a poor excuse,they should have done something years ago,now we the public are going to foot the bill for this lack of vision,the desalinisation plant is a knee jerk reaction that again is poorly planned and researched,mark my words,it will NOT be CARBON NEUTRAL,it WILL be more expensive than they are telling you now and it will NOT solve the water problem.
Come on Victoria,demand our money is used better,Do something! |
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By: boo_da_goose
18/08/2007
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http://www.ceto.com.au/about/freshwater-and-ceto.p hp
Thye should do something like these guys are doing
Perth is getting one, I don't see why we are getting a crappy old system. |
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By: nevilleford
7/10/2007
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| Melbourne needs to be clever with use of/supplies of water. we need to over, say 50-90 years construct a multi pipe distribution system in say 90 % of streets fresh, recycle a, b, c, and salt water. egypt uses salt water , yachties shower with salt water,soap is available, salt heals up cuts very well, the cost if done over a long time should be affordable, I NOT WATER ENGINEER I ELECTRICAL POWER ENGINEER SO CANNOT DO COSTINGS,i concerned with enhanced greenhouse gas of project |
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By: aquaman609
23/10/2007
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| That Pipe system is even simplier than that a large, (no huge ) lake up near Mount Buller should be built and the Annual snow fall harvested , as it melts it should be directed into the lake , that is more water than we could ever use , but what do we do ?? let it evaporate and drain away to Nowhere , harvest the Snow >^^*> |
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By: bunnostar
23/10/2007
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| Thats another good idea also Aqua. I didnt think of that sort of thing. |
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By: its_loser_brock_again
26/10/2007
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By: wychewes
27/10/2007
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| Wow...Talk about an over reaction and also someone with an axe to grind against city folk.I too live in a rural community suffering in the drought surviving on tank water.I don't think Melbourne is being selfish wanting a Desal Plant after all there is approx 2 - 3 million people to consider there. In the country like my town are small requirements compared to a large city.I also honestly believe that once the Plant is up and running and servicing Melbourne's needs if any rural communities were in dire staights and needed water Melbourne would answer the call and send some to help out.Your argument about marine flora so on and so forth is ridiculous and moronic.GET A LIFE...dicre2. |
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By: earlau
28/10/2007
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| yes wonthagi is still getting the plant its been in the makeing for about 3 years and not meany people know about it and they are still servaing the water flow of the river on to the land that floods every year i know i live up the road no plant for me in this area |
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