By: jluo959
4/10/2007
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| Well we knew it would happen, Now watch the fallout!! |
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By: jluo959
4/10/2007
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| Im sort of for it but its still concerns me about the pollution etc.. to the region. |
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By: drivedaimler
4/10/2007
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In this age of carbon tax/trading how can any government defend the cutting down of old growth trees just to pulp them for paper. Australia could and should be leading the world on climate change but we are sending mixed messages approving this pulp mill.
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By: jluo959
4/10/2007
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| I dont believe they are cutting down old growth, if they were they dont now. The greens have made sure the bulk of forests are all locked up, IM now more concerned about the air and water pollution, Im saying this as my husband works in the timber industry and i think he knows a lot more about it than i do.. |
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By: coachjacki
4/10/2007
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It's not a question of "believing" they'll cut down old growth for the pulp mill. Do your research. Gunn's have stated the mill needs to use 20% plantation and 80% native forest to be viable. I live near Ben Lomond and see the destruction of old growth native forest continuing every single day, even without the mill.
Where do you think the native forest for this mill is going to come from??? |
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By: coachjacki
4/10/2007
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| On the upside - there'll be a heck of a lot of housing going cheap in Northern Tasmania soon as the area dies a not-so-slow environmental/economic death. SO that should help with the Australia-wide affordable housing crisis. :) |
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By: jluo959
4/10/2007
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| Well coach im buggered if i know where its going to come from, But i do know most of the native forest is all locked up.. have you ever been to the south west? im sure they wont be touching the trees down there. |
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By: terliz35
4/10/2007
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| I've not really kept up to speed with this pulp mill. But when I was about 18 I went to Burnie and was amazed at the pollution in the sea, the water closest to the beach was brown and the foam was disgusting. I only visited there once but have always remembered that, will this pulp mill do similar damage to the environment? What about the damage around Queenstown from the smelters, will we see such destruction after this mill becomes operational? |
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By: rygar069
5/10/2007
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Whats to stop them trucking timber to the existing mill or upgrading/expanding that???
My understanding is that it's 2.5hrs from Launceston to Hobart on good sealed roads.
Surely a similar quality road to the existing mill could accomplish the same thing without the associated risks of constructing another mill???
Or will this be like another Franklin River dam...something they REALLY needed only to abandon the concept 18 months later? |
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By: jluo959
5/10/2007
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Whats to stop them trucking timber to the existing mill or upgrading/expanding that???
The problem with that is that Gunns timber mill is in the boundary of the city and has recently had a major renovation and there isn't enough room for such a large pulp mill site..ohhh and the timber mill itself had to go through stringent guidelines to be allowed to operate where it is... |
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By: rygar069
5/10/2007
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cant have been that stringent if the "new" mill has even more conditions attached eh?
Sounds like they pharked up in the first place and now its expansion at any cost... |
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By: jluo959
5/10/2007
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| No! not really Gunns have a lot of money and i guess its just a good decision to have the pulp mill near Bell Bay... |
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By: jluo959
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| I guess unless you know the region and how the mills are set up here its hard to explain... Bell Bay is an industrial area anyway. |
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By: anaustralianplace
6/10/2007
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| Most of the areas that are "locked up" are only so because they are inaccessible to forestry-sized trucks on the scale needed, and beyond that they only locked up by an act of parliament, which requires nothing more than a federal minister to release them. Say, for example, a minister like Malcolm Turnbull. |
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By: jluo959
6/10/2007
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| The areas that are locked up or national parks are so because they are old growth and for the most part are used for bushwalking. There are very many areas as such and varied in the amount of time or days bushwalkers want to walk the many tracks, And yes the greens probably have had some input in keeping them that way. Please dont say its because the areas are inaccesible to trucks or forestry equipment as im sure you and i both know if the forestry wanted to log these areas they would find a way. |
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By: sllywicks
7/10/2007
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| do u live in tasmaina i now what that brown is like he got ran out of queenstown trying to take over our water ways in sthran it will happing again they are waiting for him now |
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By: jluo959
8/10/2007
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| Yeah! i live in Tasmania.... |
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By: wadejohn75
9/10/2007
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A report has stated that Gunns wants half of the native forests for their pulp mill, not regrowth native, unlogged native. The report states there is only 11% of native unlogged forest left and Gunns wants half of that.
Be aware that this pulp mill is nothing more than a paper supply for Japan and the operation of the mill will employ minimal operators; the logging will employ minimal operators; the transport will require a heap of logging trucks. So the off spin from a mill will be mainly for machinery suppliers and machinery servicers as in fuel, tyres, oils, batteries and accessories. |
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By: wadejohn75
9/10/2007
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| South West Tasmania? Not a lot to log there. |
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By: jluo959
9/10/2007
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| Have you ever been to the south west? If so! then you must have had your eyes closed.. One of the biggest national parks in tas... fly into Melaluca and walk out to *** le Creek..... And where did you read this report ?? Gunns wont be touching it. Apparently the name of a small community where bushwalkers walk out is offensive to the mods !! go figure! |
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By: jluo959
9/10/2007
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| mods the word *** le creek isnt a swear word. |
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By: wadejohn75
10/10/2007
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The South West ... button grass plains, stunted melaleuca, pockets of rainforest.
Have I worked there? I got photos of us working there. |
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By: snookums444au
13/10/2007
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As I said in another Board those that disagree with the pulp mill will have there chance again at election time.
We never needed it .. Most dont want it ....I dont want it |
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By: wadejohn75
17/11/2007
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| GUNNS - ripping off Tasmania from Tasmanians! |
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By: daluka119
17/11/2007
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| Is it just me or are all the pro pulp mill adverts screen on southern cross....I am yet to see any pro pulp mill advertisments on WINtv or any other network other than Southern Cross, which is the same station that you would find all the adverts or Gunns mitre 10 and gunns timber and hardware.... all owned by Gunns limited. Also the content of southern cros's news coverage of the tamer valley pulp mill compared to other news services is questionable.... Is there something both Gunns and Southern Cross should disclose to the tasmanian public? |
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