By: peaceleo69
2/06/2009
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as to the fact that Drs-often do not like to actually take someones life-altho they give measured doses of morphine, to keep a person barely live but not kill them: if a patient wishes to go with an assisted overdose; the Dr does not have to actually administer the dose.
They only have to set up the IV drip ;with extra morphine and the patient -if they are capable-can then say goodbye to thgeir loved ones and at a time of thier own choosing; press a button-to start the drip.
Thier choice and timing of time to leasve; surrounded by their loved ones.
If the patient requests it but is unable to actually press the button themselves-a loved one should be able to do it for them.I would do it for my Mum as she would for me.
Meryll Streep did a wonderful movie ;dealing with terminal illness and choice at the end.
A wonderful book ,dealing with VE and a Drs place in it-is
A Good Death by Rodney Syme-an arguement for Voluntary Euthenasia
who has been assisting patients to die for over 30 years.
any news on the VE bill in the parliament yet?? |
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By: wadejohn75
3/06/2009
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No new news, only what has come from the ABC 0n May 26:
A recent E-M-R-S poll of 1,000 people commissioned by Mr McKim shows 78 per cent support for change.
All political parties in the parliament are giving their members a conscience vote on the issue.
A pro-life group has urged the Greens to re-think their push.
Right to Life Australia's Marcel White says they are concerned the laws would be abused.
"Right for Life Australia is worried that this trojan horse legislation will lead other states to go down the same path of legitimising ending patients lives by unnatural means and we don't want any states in Australia to accept this," she said.
The head of Launceston's only palliative care facility is urging people to seriously consider the option before rushing into supporting euthanasia.
Grant Musgrave from St. Luke's Hospital says before MP's vote, they should be provided with more information about the benefits of palliative care.
"We try and limit the fear out of death and dying and I don't think people have a full appreciation of what palliative care is about, and it may steer them away from euthanasia," he said. |
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By: peaceleo69
4/06/2009
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Robin Chappel-Greens; is spearheading a push in WA again-presenting a petition of 6,000 signatures.
I think our last poll in WA showed 82% for!
As to the reptile-read this again -it's "VOLUNTARY" euthenasia (Means a gentle death )
No one is cutting anyone up!
You getting mixed up with vivesection maybe??! |
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By: dallone.ranger
15/06/2009
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| So, any news on this bill? |
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By: peaceleo69
16/06/2009
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This is the reason:::
MCKIM TABLES PRIVATE MEMBERS' DYING WITH DIGNITY BILL 2009
Greens Leader Nick McKim tabled today his Private Membersâ Dying With Dignity Bill 2009, which seeks to confirm the right of those suffering from a terminal illness and experiencing intolerable pain to request assistance from a medically qualified person to end voluntarily their lives in a humane and dignified manner. Mr McKim said that he welcomed discussion on voluntary euthanasia, and reiterated his intention to offer briefings to all Members of Parliament to ensure an informed debate later in the year. Mr McKim also reiterated the safeguards contained in his Dying with Dignity Bill 2009, which include making it a criminal offence to induce or coerce another person, mandatory cooling-off periods, and only being available to: - People who are terminally ill and suffering intolerable pain; - People who are assessed by a psychiatrist as being mentally competent to make an informed decision; - People who are assessed by a palliative care expert to confirm that their suffering cannot be treated and relieved;and - People who are residents of Tasmania.
âI tabled my Dying with Dignity Bill 2009 today, however the formal debate will not begin until August at the very earliest which will provide a suitable period of time for consultation and consideration,â said Mr McKim. âI have offered briefings to all Members of both Houses of Parliament, and I do hope that Members who are undecided on this issue will take up my offer.â âI also thank both Leaders of the Labor and Liberal parties for confirming that their members will have a conscience vote when this important matter is debated later in the year.â.
Tue May 2009 03:05 (2 weeks, 6 days ago)
http://wotnews.com.au/like/mckim_tables_private_me mbers_dying_with_dignity_bill_2009/3466853/
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By: dallone.ranger
16/06/2009
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, and only being available to: - People who are terminally ill and suffering intolerable pain; - People who are assessed by a psychiatrist as being mentally competent to make an informed decision; - People who are assessed by a palliative care expert to confirm that their suffering cannot be treated and relieved;and - People who are residents of Tasmania.
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As far as I am concerned anyone assessed by a psychiatrist as being mentally competent should have the right to end their life, with dignity, if they so choose.
But you have to start somewhere I 'spose. |
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By: peaceleo69
17/06/2009
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A recent E-M-R-S poll of 1,000 people commissioned by Mr McKim shows 78 per cent support for change.
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consistent world wide-up to 86%
"Right for Life Australia is worried that this trojan horse legislation will lead other states to go down the same path of legitimising ending patients lives by unnatural means and we don't want any states in Australia to accept this," she said.
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but its OK to keep people alive in an unnatural state ;using 'unnatural means'-for as long as medicine and technology can.Long after; whatever maker there may be;would have called them home.
Thus thwarting god or nature.
What are they scared of?Dying??
How can one have a 'natural' death ;hooked up to machines; that take over all natural functions and chemicals ;that prolong life, longer then would be normal-if nature(natural) had taken its course??
Grant Musgrave from St. Luke's Hospital says before MP's vote, they should be provided with more information about the benefits of palliative care.
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he would-wouldnt he?
Thats what they make their money out of-thier patients and government grants.
They would be obsolete otherwise.
There are other renowned palliative care Drs ;who recognise VE as the ultimate palliative care option-when other forms fail.
We try and limit the fear out of death and dying and I don't think people have a full appreciation of what palliative care is about, and it may steer them away from euthanasia," he said
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what an extrodinary statement -from someone who prolongs dying.
Most people who request VE have no fear of dying-its the prolonged living; in circumstances they find intolerable and lack of quality of life that distresses them.Not fear of death an dying.
People like this crow Grant Musgrave disgust me-they are so bluddy patronising.
Who is he to tell those of us; who wish a death with dignity, at a time of our choosing ;that we should have to suffer palliative care-because thats what he wishes to inflict on us?? |
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By: dallone.ranger
17/06/2009
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| Exactly. |
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By: shalemac
17/06/2009
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| I can't see voluntary euthanasia becoming legal in the near future unfortunately |
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By: dallone.ranger
18/06/2009
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| Hope you are wrong Shale. it's certainly time, again. |
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