By: katie07991
19/03/2008
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| Gunn's Pulp Mill will pulp out jobs!! |
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By: daluka119
19/03/2008
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| I support the pulp mill and the jobs it creates....but I DO NOT support the location!....hampshire behind the Burnie in the far north west would be a far better location than a toursit regoin like the Tamer valley, but of course according John Gay, Tasmania only consists of Launceston and surrounds, anywhere else was deemed not good enough. |
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By: coachjacki
20/03/2008
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I dont think Gunns need any more support - they seem to have all the important people in their pocket already.
As for jobs - what a joke. Have you been paying attention to the news in the last few days??? Suddenly Gunn's are down-sizing the number of people they are going to employ. Ooops. (giggle) SOrry guys. We over-estimated by ....er ..... several hundred jobs. Perfectly innocent mistake... HONEST!!!
Oh but never mind. We're also slugging those Tasmanians who HAVE managed to get a job somewhere for our $6 million pipeline via their taxes (awwww.... did we forget to mention that during the consultation?? hee hee ooops again!! We're just SO blonde!!!). Thanks guys, sure makes it easier for us to make a profit at your expense!! Hope you didn't need it for anything trivial like... ooooh .... education or health or anything!! Maybe you could have a lamington drive for your hospital thingys :)
See. Told ya Gunns don't need some nobody in a Yahoo forum to support them. They're doing better than fine and dandy without any real public support. Gunns must be laughing their greedy faces off at us suckers. |
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By: mrbigshot_1
20/03/2008
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You are Absolutely right daluka119. The highly respected Dr Wrathvity supports a Hamshire site and even Christine Miln gave the Hamshire Hills some Tacet support.
The shear pigheadedness of Gunns insisting on building the Pulpmill on the waterfront in the Tamar Valley is beyond belief. The pollution levels that the Tamar valley will be subject to coupled with practically ZERO support from the local community should have eliminated this inferior site long ago.
The Hamshire Hills near Burnie on the other hand is a vastly superior site in almost every way. No problems with inversion layers trapping smog in a populated valley and Huge support from the local community for a mill at this site. It is well known that Gunns even gazetted this site for a future pulp mill. It would be near the current chip mill and just as close to supplies of timber as the proposed Tamar Valley site. Both sites would need money to be spent on railway lines and Gas supplies, so dissregard Gunns pro Tamar valley propaganda on that point. Yes it would cost a little more to freight finished product 20 or 30KM to Burnie port, but with all the millions dollars and months of time spent trying to get the Tamar mill up and running, well I think that expected extra profit from any Tamar valley site has been swallowed up. With the support of the community and a financial incentive from the federal government, a Hamshire mill would probably be close to completion by now.
If the highest possible profit is needed and the expense of all else, then maybe Gunns should have built the mill somewhere in South East Asia and taken advantage of slave labour and low environmental standards. Something to think about there. |
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By: wadejohn75
20/03/2008
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| Who is Gunns? Who is the owner, is what I want to know. Who is sh-tting in our faces? |
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By: strahan_1
22/03/2008
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I can't support this wretched mill being built in the Tamar Valley, I'm sorry. I feel it is irresponsible of the Government to all it to be built where it's going to pollute the water and air. Surely the government isn't so naive that it believes there is going to minimal pollution. That never happens.
I am from interstate and for the last 6 months have been looking for a block of land somewhere around the Launceston area and was seriously thinking of the Tamar Valley, but have now decided against it. |
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By: juicyfruity666
24/03/2008
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Gunns is the biggest native-forest logging company in Australia and the biggest hardwood-chip company in the world.
Gunns receives the overwhelming majority of logs destined for sawmills and woodchip mills from Tasmania. It owns all four export-woodchip mills in Tasmania. It exports more woodchips from Tasmania than are exported from all mainland states combined. Gunns exports nearly four million tonnes of native-forest woodchips each year.
Gunns also has plans to build a massive native-forest fed, polluting pulp mill in northern Tasmania. This mill will be 80% based on native forests at start-up, and will destroy iconic forests in the Great Western Tiers, North East Highlands, Ben Lomond, Blue Tier and the Eastern Tiers.
The vast majority of the logging operations on public land in Tasmania consist of clearfelling and burning.
Gunns owns over two thirds of the eucalypt sawmilling industry in Tasmania, and two major eucalypt veneer mills.
Gunns has also cleared many thousands of hectares of native forest, including rainforest, on its private land. After these forests are chipped, the land is converted to plantations.
Gunns uses 1080 poison on private land to kill wallabies and possums that browse on the seedlings established in place of the cleared forests.
When the pulp mill will be built, you can betcha bottom dollar, most of the workers will be employed from overseas too! not local!
The pulp mill will provide tempory employment and lifelong devastation for the future! |
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By: dsmifeel
16/04/2008
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In 1983 we saved the Franklin from being dammed. In 2008 we can stop Gunns from wood chipping these wonderful precious areas. Or Tasmania will still be dammed just in a different way.
The state learnt a very unfortunate lesson that you could completely destroy the environment and that made it world famous. "The Queenstown area is famous for its barren tree-less landscape, with the lush rainforest being killed by a combination of bushfires, timber harvesting, and the fumes from the pyritic smelting process used to refine the copper ore." From a goverment page. They seem proud.
http://www.mrt.tas.gov.au/portal/page?_pageid=35,8 31249&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL |
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By: ol_whal
29/04/2008
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>>Gunns exports nearly four million tonnes of native-forest woodchips each year.<<
That is just so wrong, we condemn Indonesia for destroying their forests for timber yet we import timber from them to build our homes while your beautiful timber is wasted for paper. Selective logging is a sustainable industry and would bring much more wealth to your state as far as I'm concerned and would not damage the environment like wood chipping does. Your Beech and Ash trees would fetch around $3,000 a cubic meter now and that money would stay with you.
Here in QLD we've gone the other way, all native forests are protected, my cousin had a conviction recorded against him and was fined $14,000 for cutting down 6 trees less than 100mm in diameter on his cattle property.
Let them grow hemp for paper, they're now doing it in the NT. |
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By: sumo_cerberus_sumo
30/04/2008
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| We do not need to chop down trees now days,we need to grow HEMP and lots of it,c'mon people wake up,its time we stopped killing our home earth,and Hemp is the way to go it grows fast and with the fiber it produces is the answer for fuel,plastic,lots of things,its time people just told the government to shove there laws and did it,for the better good of the earth and mankind,so no I do not support the mill,or the cutting down of trees for pulp,when Hemp is far better,and of more use. |
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By: everestau2002
30/04/2008
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| A big YES for ther mill and lets clear our State of these GREEN MAINLAND REJECTS who are poluting our island state. If they get their way all Tasmanians will be driven from our island and it will become a paradise for dole bludgers and immoral life style creeps. |
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By: sungee06
2/05/2008
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| The mill should be built for the economic growth of Tasmania. Greenies are total alarmists. |
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By: poddlingpumpy
24/05/2008
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| SHOULD be built for the economic growth of Tasmania. But isn't. How on earth are you yourself expecting any benefits from it? Think - if the Franklin HAD been dammed, how much would you be benefiting from the millions of tourist dollars it now generates? |
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By: rachaelharlequin
24/05/2008
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| The economic benefits from this development are massive - thats why the Greens oppose it down here - they hate every thing that might see Tassie move ahead. |
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By: jluo959
24/05/2008
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| It looks like the pulp mill may not go ahead after an announcement that the ANZ bank have pulled out of the two million dollar deal !! |
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By: poddlingpumpy
24/05/2008
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Proof, please! WITH a section showing how these 'economic benefits' fill anyone other than Gunns' coffers.
Thank god your time is coming to an end, you and all the other narrow-minded, tunnel-visioned conservatives who'd see the world destroyed as long as it was done in a way that satisfied your weird, $$$-are-everything agenda. |
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By: poddlingpumpy
24/05/2008
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| Uh, that was for Rachael, jlo (sp.?) |
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By: poddlingpumpy
24/05/2008
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| jluo.... |
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By: rachaelharlequin
24/05/2008
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Now now pumpy piddle why so grumpy? You make me laugh the way you stick the boots in to any one who disagrees with you.
I do not have to explain anything to you to justify anything. Quite frankly you come across as a bit of a turd. |
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