By: stealth666@y7mail.com
9/08/2009
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stealth been trying to reply but the site was out,firstly i have played by the rules all my life and if i done something wrong then my fault i copped it sweet and taught my kids the same values ,to be wrongly fined nearing the end of my time for the crime of being one second to early or one second to late at a yellow light[ what ever] cut my legs from under me that is why i will never trust any of you again as for not helping you i didn't volunteer for that nor do i get paid you do, this is not the first bad experience i've had one day i'll tell you about the two drunk cops who gave me a had time in the fifties.
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Stump, I can understand where you are coming from but you cannot pigeon hole everyone due to the few. I have a bad relationship with a man before but that does not stop me from placing trust in another man just because I have had a bad experience with another. In all walks of life you are going to get your good and bad and then you will have to deal with some that are clearly not suited to be in job that they are. As for the others referring to unsolved homicides and sexual assaults. You have to understand that general duties Police are rostered different shifts each day. One day you may be the first response crew to attend 000 calls and the next you may be on a shift relating to traffic offences. Homicides are investigated by detectives not general duties Police. Everyone has their role and field in which they work. General duties Police are only involved in homicides and serious incidents if they were one of the first crews on the scene but once the detectives show up, they take over the investigation. I have personally used my discretionary powers to merely give warnings for traffic offences if the offence didn't compromise safety and I do agree that the unsuitable people should be weeded out. |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
21/08/2009
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| I supported Queensland Police for most of my life until I had the misfortune to discover just how corrupt they are. Most are invariably either ignorant & vicious swine or gutless wonders who turn a blind eye when they stumble across their brethren doing the wrong thing. The favourite sport of operational cops is demonstrating their authority by blowing someone away with their police issue Glock pistol or firing their taser repeatedly until the 'offender' has a fatal heart attack. Locals wil recall the incident where one of our fine flatfooted ones mistook a steering lock for a firearm & reportedly almost shot the 'dangerous offender' in self defence. One of the most sought after occupations in the QPS is manning 'flash for cash' units because they get to sit in airconditioned comfort reading porn for the whole shift. There have been incidents where extremely dangerous traffic situations arose within metres & which the operator completely ignored due to the importance of his fundraising job. Is it any wonder that that both Tony Fitzgerald & Bob Needham (CMC chief) are demanding a Royal Commission !!!! |
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By: stealth666@y7mail.com
21/08/2009
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I supported Queensland Police for most of my life until I had the misfortune to discover just how corrupt they are. Most are invariably either ignorant & vicious swine or gutless wonders who turn a blind eye when they stumble across their brethren doing the wrong thing. The favourite sport of operational cops is demonstrating their authority by blowing someone away with their police issue Glock pistol or firing their taser repeatedly until the 'offender' has a fatal heart attack.
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Don't generalise ill_be_back because it really shows how ignorant your are!
I am an operational Police officer and do the upmost to help the public as do most. What you may be referring to are the minority not most! I dread the day that I will ever have to pull the trigger on my firearm. Rest assured though, if it means the offender going down or myself, my partner or a member of the public I would pull the trigger that quick that your head would spin. Also, they have put a stop to taser training and there are many of us that have not completed the training due to this fact so we are not permitted to carrying a taser. Weigh it up, no taser training = no taser = firearm. Which would you rather be used on you? |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
22/08/2009
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| Exactly how many times have you or a fellow officer reported one of your brotherhood for misconduct / misuee of power etc ?? OK so it 'might' happen once in a blue moon but I'm certain that misdeeds are swept under the carpet far more often then they are reported. You could hardly NOT be aware of the widespread practice of uniformed officers intimidating citizens on behalf of friends or relatives. I had certain of the flatfooted fraternity try that trick on me in the past, unsuccessfully as it turned out because I had a better knowledge of relevant laws than the rozzer. If intimidation for personal gain isn't abuse of power then I don't know what you'd call it. The so called code of ethics suggests that the primary duty of your mob is to protect the public, however when one of the brotherhood is in harms way, any thought of serving the public goes right out the window. What about the stupid policy of police investigating police misconduct ?? Thats a sure way to guarantee most complaints will be swept under the carpet. I'm not in the habit of doing business with blue uniformed fundraisers (among other things my scots ancestry means I'm too tight to pay speeding taxes / mobile phone taxes / etc), however I am VERY concerned that many serving police were clearly the schoolyard bully and only became a cop so they could continue to throw their weight around. The practice of issuing some obviously poorly trained thug a firearm is too scary for words. Consider what could easily have happened in the case of the steering lock confused with a firearm ?? As I noted in previous post, I've lost track of the number of times I've seen a cop manning a flash for cash unit, blithely ignoring an extremely dangerous traffic situation only metres away. Complaints to headquarters only drew the response 'its not his job' !!!! I could mention heaps of other issues, is it any wonder the public has lost reespect for the QPS ?? |
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By: stealth666@y7mail.com
22/08/2009
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| I hae been fortunate enough not to have been put in the situation where I have had to report any of my colleagues, thankfully. As far as investigating misconduct, that goes way up the food chain. The thing that urks me is when you people pigeon hole all of us because of a run in with the minority. I agree that there certainly are some that are not suited to the job but in the same token, some of the customers we deal with are not suited to oxygen. You must understand that you will always get your good and bad in all walks of life and to categorise everyone the same is just ludicrous. Just for the record, I was never the school yard bully and your so called 'flash for cash' units are controlled by the traffic branch. Genral duties police are first response officers that attend the jobs the public call in over the phone etc. the suicides where people have blown half their heads off, the domestics where partners and kids are hospitalised and the list goes on. Spare a thought for the majority of officers that are doing the right thing and dealing with these situations on a daily basis. |
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By: lilacz_09
22/08/2009
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| stealth, you are replying to melli (masquerading under yet ANOTHER ID.) Take no notice of her, she is full of shyte. :) |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
22/08/2009
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| I can assure you I have no knowledge of, or any association with any 'melli'. I have only one nick here, & same nick at several other forum sites and have never used 'melli' as a nick in any capacity. For what its worth it sounds like a female name whereas I most definitely am NOT female :) |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
22/08/2009
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| I believe that people appointed to a position of trust and / or power should be squeaky clean & completely above reproach in every way. In particular, ANY corruption and / or official misconduct involving police cannot be tolerated in a society claiming to be fair & just. Clearly that isn't the case with either the QPS or for that matter, the present Queensland Government. If that meanswe need more far more stringent control & supervision than that to which the general public are subjected then so be it. Lack of public confidence in its system of law & order is obviously undesirable, and revelations such as those recently aired by Bob Needham & Tony Fitzgerald reveal that there is something decidedly on the nose. Even the average sheeple are becoming aware of the stench of corruption, which inevitably means that hitherto relatively minor issues are increasingly relevant. No doubt you've noticed the police union has recently decided that merely shooting its members in the foot isn't sufficient so its now taking careful aim !!!!! An additional but related issue that is commonly used by less scrupulous cops is the inaccessibility of justice due to extortionate costs. I imagine cops must derive considerable satisfaction from charging some poor mug with something he or she cannot possibly defend. |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
22/08/2009
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| In response to ispeak4me, laws in Queensland & probably most other states are more often than not 'statute law' which I understand means they are relatively simple for the obviously simple minded 'system' to administer. New South Wales used to have a 'prima facie' system some years back whereby a motorist travelling at over the posted speed limit could potentially be charged for dangerous driving or somesuch, providing the fundraisers could successfully prove to the satisfaction of a magistrate they were in fact driving dangerously. The mere fact of exceeding a limit specified in statute law was not in itself an offence. I can only assume that putting the onus of proof of an offence on the custodians of law & order proved difficult for their simple minds, hence the change to statute law which enabled a 'big stick' approach with which to bludgeon the population into submission (and, incidentially, raise a LOT more revenue) Now I don't for one minute condone hoon behaviour on the roads or elsewhere, what I am on about is the 'make it easy for the 'system' & to hell with justice mentality. This is further aggravated by unbridled avarice of lawyers / barristers which leads to the near total inaccessibility to justice. Many police use this situation to advantage by charging their victims with things they fully know cannot be defended. Consider the number of people who claim they weren't doing the speed claimed by a 'flash for cash' unit but who are forced to shut up and pay up. Now at least some are obviously guilty but even then they should be entitled to their day in court without needing to mortgage their house in order to afford it. Innocent people should have no reason but to pursue justice without cost. NB: Legal Aid isn't the answer, but thats a subject for another day. |
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By: stealth666@y7mail.com
22/08/2009
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| I tell you what is the answer. Don't break the law and you won't have a problem. It really is a simple equation. |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
23/08/2009
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| Male cow excreta !!!! The combination of thuggish custodians of law & order who are invariably on a power trip, laws intended primarily to bludgeon us into compliance & totally inaccessible justice, ensure that even the most law abiding citizen scannot be confident they will not be targeted some day. Thomas More's statement that its better that ten guilty go free than one innocent be jailed is ignored in Australia where the focus on key performance indicators effectively compels even the most honorable cops to attack the public at every opportunity. |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
23/08/2009
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| An example of a totally stupid law is the one about use of a hand held mobile whilst driving. Now its unquestionably stupid to drive through peak hour city traffic from one side of the city whilst the thing is permanently glued to one's lughole, but even worse are the drivers of urban assault vehicles that do the same trip happily texting away in the knowledge that a cop can't see whats going on. However consider the case of a truckie on the Gateway whose mobile rings. You have two options, answer, tell the caller I'll call you back & hang up, or get off the road, take the call at leisure, then barge back into the traffic. I do mean BARGE because as anyone who uses the Gateway knows, there isn't any chance some kind driver will make way for someone to merge. Even more to the point, say you are on some totally deserted bus road at 2am & you take a call. One never knows when some officious blue uniformed fundraiser lurking behind a tree will throw a wobbly and insist you contribute to consolidated revenue. Statute law being the blunt weapon it is, most cops will apply it without once considering whether or not its appropriate. It never occurs to them that the mere fact that they would apply a 'reasonable use' policy to themselves (but not to the public) is misconduct and misuse of their position. i could go on about 40k roadworks signs. Being the extremely tight scot that I am, I slow to the posted limit & immediately collect a long queue of speedies beeping away in frustration and looking frantically for any possible opportunity to regain what they consider a 'sensible' velocity. Now boys & girls, you wouldn't expect certain off duty blue uniformed wearers to be among those who go whizzing past at 40 or 50k over the posted limit, but thats exactly what I see every day. Point being that those charged with responsibly to enforce the law are not, as they demonstrably believe, above the law. You can't abuse the very laws you expect citizens to uphold & expect respect. |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
24/08/2009
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| Stealth is obviously not prepared to face the fact that innocent people are regularly charged with something or other in Queensland & are unable to obtain justice because of the ways our framed & extortionate costs of defence. In addition, off duty police have a nasty habit of wearing their uniform as a tool of intimidation. Whilst stealth 'claims' to be personally unaware of misdeeds committed by his brethren, I consider it extremely unlikely that any officer with several years service could possibly be unaware of abuse of power, malpractice & corruption. Public perception of police will never improve until ALL cops lift their game & ensure that their compatriots do likewise. Amon other issues, police need to be removed from fundraising duties. The present union president is clearly a goon on a power trip & needs to be ousted immediaely. |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
24/08/2009
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| Stealth is obviously not prepared to face the fact that innocent people are regularly charged with something or other in Queensland & are unable to obtain justice because of the ways our laws are framed & extortionate costs of defence. In addition, off duty police have a nasty habit of wearing their uniform as a tool of intimidation. Whilst stealth 'claims' to be personally unaware of misdeeds committed by his brethren, I consider it extremely unlikely that any officer with several years service could possibly be unaware of abuse of power, malpractice & corruption. Public perception of police will never improve until ALL cops lift their game & ensure that their compatriots do likewise. Among other issues, police need to be removed from fundraising duties. The present union president is clearly a goon on a power trip & needs to be ousted immediaely. |
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By: stealth666@y7mail.com
24/08/2009
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WRONG! You are taking what I said way out of context. Before you get back on your long winded soapbox re-read my post. I said that I personally haven't been put in the situation where I have had to report anyone for crossing the line. Anyone who reads the paper knows that in recent times high ranking officers were being investigated for misconduct. I also said that I agree that some people are not suited to the job. YOu are wrong also regarding Police wearing their uniform off duty. The first thing we do is put a covering shirt over the uniform to drive to and from work as we, believe it or not, also become targets from the fools that clearly are anti-police. The only officers I know of who wear the shirt to and from work are those fresh out of the academy but they soon learn it's not a good idea. It sounds to me like your dealings with Police go a little further than just a few simple traffic fines.
Oh and name calling because I happen to challenge your mere male chauvanistic posts, just paints you in an even darker light than originally thought. |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
24/08/2009
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| Just for the record my record is immaculate, no thanks to certain custodians of law and order who obviously thrive on mischief & mayhem. I do in fact have a Special Branch commendation due to information provided in respect of a break & enter gang. I've encountered many instances of police wrongdoing over the years and that I attributed to bad examples. This includes a number of situations where officers with many years experience used their uniform to intimidate, so its certainly NOT a situation that applies only to newbies. A more recent event in which certain obviously bent officers brought charges that they knew were false was the last straw for me. Instead of going out out of my way to assist as I did for most of my life, I'll be extremely unlikely to do so again. A number of so called 'straight' cops were aware of the circumstances surrounding the false charges but presumably because of the brotherhood code, refrained from intervening. |
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By: auntymole
2/09/2009
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| What a stupid & simplistic thing to say. |
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By: whatsforme99
2/09/2009
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You have two options, answer, tell the caller I'll call you back & hang up, or get off the road, take the call at leisure,
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Hey ill_be_back@rocketmail.co m there is a third choice. Get a f.king bluetooth device. You wouldn't be wharfys son by any chance? |
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By: ill_be_back@rocketmail.com
2/09/2009
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Seems we have another oinker to two in out midst.
Just for the record, I don't use mobile phones whilst driving, either with or without a handsfree. There are far too many kamikaze drivers on the road to have ones attention impaired for a millisecond, as well as fuzzy parasites who are apt to crawl out from beneath whatever rock or log from which they were lurking. |
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2/09/2009
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Hey ill_be_back@rocketmail.co m there is a third choice. Get a f.king bluetooth device. You wouldn't be wharfys son by any chance?
Goose is a good name, wonder what prompted you to choose that particular one ?? |
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By: mickomega
2/09/2009
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| They are getting a caning on the news at the moment, and it dosen't look good. I stay away from coppers, one night I approached one in the mall, and just said how ya going, and the bugger actually snarled at me, like, who the f..ck are you. I remember old Dickie Daniels in the valley, he was called Dancing dickey Daniels, and everyone loved him, give him a hard time and you were history but just be normal it was all good. I understand the crap that goes on up here, and I can handle a few knocks around and not carry it, the young coppers ain't playing football any more their wearing a uniform, I recon they should respect that. |
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2/09/2009
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| The present state of the QPS is indeed sad. I'd much rather we had police whom we could respect, but unfortunately there are far too many instances of misconduct, brutality, incompetence, laziness and corruption for them to expect anything but contempt. The attitude of police in cities at least is that the fact they are wearing a uniform means that everyone should hold them in awe, as some kind of diety. Wikipedia tells us that 'A deity is a postulated preternatural or supernatural immortal being, who may be thought of as holy, divine, or sacred, held in high regard, and respected by believers. Some deities are asserted to be the directors of time and fate itself, to be the givers of human law and morality, to be the ultimate judges of human worth and behavior'. Maybe I'm just hard to please as stealth claims, but people or entities which have my respect have invariably earned it through actions other than the aforesaid misconduct, brutality, incompetence, laziness and corruption. |
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By: big.ol64
2/09/2009
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They are getting a caning on the news at the moment, and it dosen't look good. I stay away from coppers,
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Yeh mick, they may be only a minority, but they are getting the full support of the majority and the bosses.
People don't like sociopathic thugs, especially when they are armed with lethal weapons and aren't held to account for their actions.
We have less to fear from the bikies than we do from the cops.
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2/09/2009
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People don't like sociopathic thugs, especially when they are armed with lethal weapons and aren't held to account for their actions.
I recently read an interesting article on power and corruption. Whereas conventional wisdom suggests that its the presence of power that corrupts people, there is an alternative suggestion that power attracts those who are already tending to be corrupt. In reality, both situations probably exist to some degree & the end result is similar. What is obvious is that we need an independent & accountable system that continually monitors all who possess power over others. |
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2/09/2009
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We have less to fear from the bikies than we do from the cops.
Sad but probably true |
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